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Hi, I would like to have a topic in this forum dedicated to the railways of France, including the railway companies prior to the State nationalisation of 1938. This topic can discuss any gauge of model, any prototype for France. It is up to you. My first post will be about the proposed Marklin new items 2012, which includes an SNCF version of the Kittel steam rail car. The item number is 37258, and it now shows on the Marklin database. I always wanted one of these, and because it is a little different to the German versions, I will order it. Marklin says that it will have prototypical tooling changes to the roof and the bearing sides for the rear axle. I like that it worked in the Mulhouse area near the German border, and Basel. I can sensibly run trains on my layout, from neighbouring states. I also have a number of other SNCF models for era III, so it will fit well. I know Marklin does many models of the SNCF in the modern era, so I guess there would be plenty to talk about. And they are releasing other SNCF models for 2012. All can be viewed on the Marklin site. I will list them here: Engines 36745 III 37260 VI 37337 V 37813 III 39405 V rolling stock 41876 Inox passenger car set for TEE V 47035 freight set VI 48434 freight set IV regards Kimball Edited by user 04 February 2014 21:53:08(UTC)
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Very good idea, as a froggy have myself interested by US trains and have most of Marklin US models. So I can understand you are looking on the other side of the ocean. Sadly haven't downunder trains but at my knowledge Marklin never makes one. You can find mostly of the Marklin HO models from SNCF here: http://www.bzt87.com/BZT/MARKLIN/MARKLIN-F1.htmRegards |
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Kimball, great idea !  Husson73, nice link ! I see a 37157 150 Y, another decapod ^^ ;) .. but not the 34157 ... Without knowing for sure what the difference is atm (one is "newer" obviously ...), and enjoying this model from my collection very much, here's some pix of the latter : Yum  Yumgui attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: Yumgui Kimball, great idea ! Husson73, nice link ! I see a 37157 150 Y, another decapod ^^ ;) .. but not the 34157 ... Without knowing for sure what the difference is atm (one is "newer" obviously ...), and enjoying this model from my collection very much, here's some pix of the latter : Yum Hi Yum, I too recently acquired a 34157, and I like it. It is quite an iconic locomotive. The 37157 was an SNCB version of the same, and I guess it had a later decoder. It shows on the Marklin database, whereas the 34157 does not. regards Kimball |
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Kimbal - Great topic! The SNCF is also my area of focus after having spent almost a decade in France. I was surprised at the number of SNCF items that Marklin came with this year, as well as the variety. But it's all a bit budget busting - and if memory serves much of it all comes out more or less at the same time. The "Kittel" does look interesting and I'll be sure to get one. Its good to see since Marklin does a lot of recycling of the same moulds (cf 37260 this year), but I can't complain too much since we got the cc40100's and the flat iron (3733x) in the past few years - both typically and almost uniquely French. I'm tempted by the 39405 "Rubens" PBA TEE even though I have the 39401. I used to take that exact train from Paris to Bruxelles in late 1993, and the sounds on the 39401 are quite dissappointing (ok, almost pathetic) as well. One I haven't picked up is the TGV POS 37990. The reviews on it seem so mixed - how can you have a slow TGV? Besides, I did get the Mehano TGV Atlantique when they made it. I had to have that - I actually remember trying to "catch up" to the TGV Atlantique where the TGV tracks are parallel to the A10/N118 autoroute southwest of Paris  . I keep hoping for a 68000 series, but alas no. I remember them from Normandy/western France in the mid 1980's and I'd really like a real french diesel. I may have to pick up one of the now discontinued Roco models for that but I haven't found an AC version. Speaking of Roco, I have added a couple of Roco AC SNCF models, and they are actually quite good with great detail but, yes, plastic. Amazingly quite and smooth though. Anyway, great topic, thanks! David
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi,
I would like to have a topic in this forum dedicated to the railways of France...
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Hi Kimball, A Great idea! Hoping I'll have time to contribute... Regards Joël |
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Originally Posted by: sokato Kimbal -
Great topic! The SNCF is also my area of focus after having spent almost a decade in France.
I was surprised at the number of SNCF items that Marklin came with this year, as well as the variety.
... we got the cc40100's and the flat iron (3733x) in the past few years - both typically and almost uniquely French.
I'm tempted by the 39405 "Rubens" PBA TEE even though I have the 39401. I used to take that exact train from Paris to Bruxelles in late 1993, and the sounds on the 39401 are quite dissappointing (ok, almost pathetic) as well.
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I keep hoping for a 68000 series, but alas no. I remember them from Normandy/western France in the mid 1980's and I'd really like a real french diesel. I may have to pick up one of the now discontinued Roco models for that ...
Anyway, great topic, thanks!
David Hi David, Regarding the 3733x series, yes, uniquely French and you would wonder why Marklin would do that. Every maker from the days of Jouef and Hornby have done it. Probably not as well as Marklin, mind you. And on that same topic, if Marklin could spread the bogies 1cm further apart, they have a platform for a retooling of the famous 3038 model of BB9200, and even go so far as to create a BB16000 (same body as BB9200). In metal of course!) A French diesel would be nice. regards Kimball |
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Sadly, none of the SNCF steam locomotives made by Märklin are real "French" locomotives. They're only a recycling of German-made models that remained in France after the war. So I have absolutely no interest in them. I believe that Roco has released some "real" French steam locos. Can anyone confirm otherwise? |
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Originally Posted by: Armando Sadly, none of the SNCF steam locomotives made by Märklin are real "French" locomotives. They're only a recycling of German-made models that remained in France after the war. So I have absolutely no interest in them. I believe that Roco has released some "real" French steam locos. Can anyone confirm otherwise? Last year they wanted our votes for the insider loco. One of them was a real french loco a 241 A Mountain. I do think they were fishing for interest for it. I think it would go down very well   dan67millie attached the following image(s):
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Originally Posted by: Armando Sadly, none of the SNCF steam locomotives made by Märklin are real "French" locomotives. They're only a recycling of German-made models that remained in France after the war. So I have absolutely no interest in them. I believe that Roco has released some "real" French steam locos. Can anyone confirm otherwise? Hi Armando, Regards 2010/11: Yes Roco have released a Nord 231 (various pre and post 1938 liveries), comes in AC versions as well. I think many shy away from it, because of its perceived inability to negotiate R1 curves. Jouef (part of the Hornby stable) have released a new 141 (the American R series) in both 2 and 3 rail. Again, there is a perception that R1 is a problem. While the Nord 231 is uniquely French, the 141R is not. It was built by North American builders for use throughout Europe at the end of WWII. So it showed up in various other places including Spain, and dare I say it, maybe Eastern Europe and Turkey. There was even a version made for Australia in the 50's. Now maybe this represents a real opportunity for Marklin. They have the experience now with quite a few 2-8-2 locos (BR39-41, US light Mikado), to build a loco that can be reiterated for many continents, including AUSTRALIA!!!! regards Kimball |
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Hi Dan, Thanks for reminding me of that. That 241 would be one giant loco. It would tower over some of the German ones I think. A very good choice for Marklin I would say. regards Kimball |
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I'm sharing the picture we who use Märklin to model the French railway system always hope to find: il ressemble au mistral qui suivi par une série des voitures de grands lignes qui pourraient être prises facilement pour des modèles de #346/3J et #4076.
Still having a bit of trouble selecting the appropriate dining (if there is one) for this consist--maybe one from the DSG.
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Originally Posted by: BR01097 Still having a bit of trouble selecting the appropriate dining (if there is one) for this consist--maybe one from the DSG. 352J or better, 346/2J would do the trick :  Y |
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Originally Posted by: husson73 Roco 3 rails digital Pacific 231 Nord with Lemaco Etat + PLM Ocem FL
At my knowledge, it's the only one original french steam locomotive made by Roco, the other like Marklin french steam locs are post WWI or WWII original german steam locs stayed in France after the war or given by Germany to repared the french destroyed steam locs during the war.
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Hi Husson, Thank you very much for sharing these models. I have seen them in the model press. Did you try them on the small Marklin radius tracks? I like the Lemaco coaches, are they brass or plastic? regards Kimball |
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Hi, Here is a picture of 3 of my French locos, these are all Marklin. The 34157 is the one on the left, and is a Delta decoder model I got from member Sal in the US. Then the electric is 37335. And lastly the 3317 on the passenger train, has been updated with a 60941 motor, and 60965 MFX decoder.  regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi, Here is a picture of 3 of my French locos, these are all Marklin. The 34157 is the one on the left, and is a Delta decoder model I got from member Sal in the US. Then the electric is 37335. And lastly the 3317 on the passenger train, has been updated with a 60941 motor, and 60965 MFX decoder. regards Kimball Kimball, I've noticed you have some carriages with the 3317 but can't see them actually to identify what type they are. any chance of a close up ? When I bought mine, I was surprised, it had a drum collector, braking shoes, short coupling with NEM coupling shaft (tender). I used the the same conversion set (60901) and an ESU sound decoder and at the time, Maerklin for the "first time" offered a full range of carriages, consisting of baggage car, 1st and 2nd class coaches. My wish is to have one of the "Buegeleisen" 37335 or earlier versions. John |
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Hi Jeremy,
It looks like the Belgians got a similar deal as France did after WWI, and got older 18 class steam engines from Germany.
That is a nice model. They would have ranged into France no doubt on the Brussels to Paris expresses.
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Originally Posted by: river6109
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I've noticed you have some carriages with the 3317 but can't see them actually to identify what type they are.
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Hi John, I have a few French coaches. 1. A TRAM brand car (probably the same as France Trains) I bought off eBay, Germany. It is about 270mm long, and had to cut the buffers off, so it would negoitiate my R1 curves. It came with NEM coupler boxes, and I use Marklin couplers now. As you can see from the paper, it was originally a kit.  I will reply with the others in another reply. regards Kimball Edited by user 25 February 2012 22:16:09(UTC)
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Hi John, The other coaches on this train are Hornby Acho, of which there are 3 versions. I run these with the original plastic wheels, and they occasionally derail. Metal wheels would be best, and have found only a couple of suitable ones. They were leftovers from Roco or Liliput 2 rail model wagons. I would prefer proper AC wheel sets, but cannot find one of correct axle length. Regards couplers, the original Hornby ones screw off. Then I make up NEM boxes from nickel etchings that I buy from YDM in France. They protrude a bit, but at least they couple up properly with Marklin couplings. First the Hornby Acho baggage, 180mm long. This is very like prototypes from photos I have seen.  The second is the DEV coach, about 230mm long, probably not scale length, but I don't care. It comes in both a first and second class, with "Paris-Lille" destination boards. For their age, they are good models, with interiors. I believe late in the 60s, Hornby did some with a different destination.  regards Kimball |
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Hi, To get away from coaches a bit, here are a couple of recently acquired freight wagons to suit the SNCF modeller. First is a couple of REE Modeles (WB251) OCEM covered vans, class Kkw, for era IIIa.  Then a Roco model of a K class covered van (era III), which is in their Hobby line, but I find very appealing.  regards Kimball |
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And here is another van, a Lima Hobby or Junior line, but I don't know the model number Running number is 347595 for 1950s.  regards Kimball |
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Hi, Marklin SNCF wine wagon limited edition 999 pieces, now available at Swiss hobby shops, including Bahnorama, from whose site the photo was taken. With suitable acknowledgement to Bahnorama: http://shop.bahnorama.ch/ regards Kimball |
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time flies when you have fun and this time I can bring some of my locos into the foreground. as mentioned before, I bought the 3317 with carriages at the time, my first loco, Märklin 3038.1 was bought in Austria by my younger brother years earlier and was send to me by my late mother in the 70's-80's. my next purchase was the 3946 (X150) (kitform) which I've converted with a 5 pole motor, sound, telex coupling in the tender and leds, front & rear and added gearlights. unfortunately I sold this one. I than had the interest in electric locos and bought most of the different types, SNCF & NS, e.g. 3320, 3321, 3625, 3326 (NS), 3333, 3334 (26002, 26004, 26006) 3526 (NS), I sold all the NS versions and the SNCF 3333. another E-loco I bought was the English channel loco (83320) based on a 3320 loco. My next purchase was the 3474, diesel loco based on a BR 212, this loco had the SEDCO logo on it and I bought 3 of them for an investment, I'm still waiting for it. my first Roco French electric was a BB 8169 (DC) and it is running off the overhead system My latest purchase was a Roco model SNCF 2D2 9109 here are some videos of the said locos: |
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Unfortunately, I have only one French model: Märrklin 3118, the Micheline type 11 from Compagnie des chemins de fer de l'Est, in service from March 21. 1932  Edited by user 19 March 2014 04:01:46(UTC)
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Hi all, This is an interesting topic. I also collect SNCF Märklin models. Two days ago I got this Märklin SNCF 43972 set:   I have two SNCF electric locos 3038 and 3165. Then there are soon 12 French SNCF or ETAT steam locos. I should buy more rolling stock as I have only this 43972 set, six Märklin 4244/4245/4246 coaches and one older 4104 and one 4105 2 axle passenger cars. Only one SNCF freight car... I have two of some models like 37552 SNCF 040D, 3414 SNCF 150 Z (analog and digitalised) and 3317 SNCF 231 A (analog and soon one digitalised  ). Then analog 3083 ETAT 231, 3107 SNCF 232 TC, 3117 SNCF 232 TC weathered. Delta 3413 SNCF 131 TA, 34131 SNCF 040 TC and 34157 SNCF 150 Y. Regards, Janne Edited by user 11 January 2014 19:44:23(UTC)
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the more locos you have from different railway companies the more carriages you need and the more expensive it gets.
I have stopped doing it because it becomes too expensive. I've already culled the NS, NSB loco range and will stick with the SNCF. they have some great freight carriages but alas I can't be tempted.
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Originally Posted by: river6109 the more locos you have from different railway companies the more carriages you need and the more expensive it gets.
I have stopped doing it because it becomes too expensive. I've already culled the NS, NSB loco range and will stick with the SNCF. they have some great freight carriages but alas I can't be tempted.
John Hi John, Yes this is true, but a good thing with many of the European countries railway companies is that they can also be mixed if the countries are near each other. Or use a locomotive from different country than the rolling stock. Maybe not always prototypical, but it's possible in my 1:87 fantasy railway. Regards, Janne |
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Originally Posted by: Janne75 Originally Posted by: river6109 the more locos you have from different railway companies the more carriages you need and the more expensive it gets.
I have stopped doing it because it becomes too expensive. I've already culled the NS, NSB loco range and will stick with the SNCF. they have some great freight carriages but alas I can't be tempted.
John Hi John, Yes this is true, but a good thing with many of the European countries railway companies is that they can also be mixed if the countries are near each other. Or use a locomotive from different country than the rolling stock. Maybe not always prototypical, but it's possible in my 1:87 fantasy railway. Regards, Janne Hi I mix Belgium stock and locomotives with French as I have a layout based in Northern France which is only a day out for me to take a few photos and watch trains! This year for Xmas I had a SNCB Marklin series 59 diesel, I have a SNCF BB12000 cat number 37337 weighting at Modellbahn-Kramm for me. Both these could have been seen together in the Pas Du Calais area, with stock from other countries. It looks like a new SNCB series 204 will be announced this year from Marklin so that's on my list as well! See pick of my French layout. A new bit will be built onto it with a town made of French MKD kits based on French houses! Cheers Dan danmarklinman attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Originally Posted by: Janne75 Originally Posted by: river6109 the more locos you have from different railway companies the more carriages you need and the more expensive it gets.
I have stopped doing it because it becomes too expensive. I've already culled the NS, NSB loco range and will stick with the SNCF. they have some great freight carriages but alas I can't be tempted.
John Hi John, Yes this is true, but a good thing with many of the European countries railway companies is that they can also be mixed if the countries are near each other. Or use a locomotive from different country than the rolling stock. Maybe not always prototypical, but it's possible in my 1:87 fantasy railway. Regards, Janne Hi I mix Belgium stock and locomotives with French as I have a layout based in Northern France which is only a day out for me to take a few photos and watch trains! This year for Xmas I had a SNCB Marklin series 59 diesel, I have a SNCF BB12000 cat number 37337 weighting at Modellbahn-Kramm for me. Both these could have been seen together in the Pas Du Calais area, with stock from other countries. It looks like a new SNCB series 204 will be announced this year from Marklin so that's on my list as well! See pick of my French layout. A new bit will be built onto it with a town made of French MKD kits based on French houses! Cheers Dan Also here's pic a Belgium local service which ran from Belgium to Lillie in France. The service is now run by am96 electric units from Belgium which are very boring to look at. Unlike m2 stock and a SNCB diesel danmarklinman attached the following image(s): |
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Hi, Today I got a new French steam locomotive into my Collection. This is my 12th Märklin French steam locomotive and 14th Märklin French locomotive. It's my second Märklin 3317 SNCF BR 231 995. Before I had an analog 3317, but I bought this one as it's digitalised. It has smoke unit, 5-pole motor and the steam whistle and bell sounds. Someone has installed technic from another BR 18.4 or S 3/6 type loco into this one. Now I can run this with my SNCF 4244/4245/4246 coaches on digital layout. Most of those coaches have interior lights. Here are three photos of this in my opinion beautiful steam locomotive:    Regards, Janne |
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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman
Hi I mix Belgium stock and locomotives with French as I have a layout based in Northern France which is only a day out for me to take a few photos and watch trains!
This year for Xmas I had a SNCB Marklin series 59 diesel, I have a SNCF BB12000 cat number 37337 weighting at Modellbahn-Kramm for me. Both these could have been seen together in the Pas Du Calais area, with stock from other countries.
It looks like a new SNCB series 204 will be announced this year from Marklin so that's on my list as well! See pick of my French layout. A new bit will be built onto it with a town made of French MKD kits based on French houses! Cheers Dan
Hi Dan, Nice photo of the French electric under a bridge. I think more photos of your layout have featured elsewhere on this forum, correct? The MKD kits are great to build, not too big. I have to order from France, as not many make it to Australian shops. Their architectural style is quite different to the German and Danish kits which are more common. I can only guess MKD are typically French style. I purchased an MKD furniture factory, and have adapted it as a winery building. MKD have a complete village kit for around 80 Euros. regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: danmarklinman
Hi I mix Belgium stock and locomotives with French as I have a layout based in Northern France which is only a day out for me to take a few photos and watch trains!
This year for Xmas I had a SNCB Marklin series 59 diesel, I have a SNCF BB12000 cat number 37337 weighting at Modellbahn-Kramm for me. Both these could have been seen together in the Pas Du Calais area, with stock from other countries.
It looks like a new SNCB series 204 will be announced this year from Marklin so that's on my list as well! See pick of my French layout. A new bit will be built onto it with a town made of French MKD kits based on French houses! Cheers Dan
Hi Dan, Nice photo of the French electric under a bridge. I think more photos of your layout have featured elsewhere on this forum, correct? The MKD kits are great to build, not too big. I have to order from France, as not many make it to Australian shops. Their architectural style is quite different to the German and Danish kits which are more common. I can only guess MKD are typically French style. I purchased an MKD furniture factory, and have adapted it as a winery building. MKD have a complete village kit for around 80 Euros. regards Kimball photo: the loco in question is a 83320 (I think) which runs or used to run under the British channel. |
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I think they were used during construction of the tunnel. The yellow ends are to conform with British safety requirements |
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Originally Posted by: RayF I think they were used during construction of the tunnel. The yellow ends are to conform with British safety requirements Yes you are right a little Ray. They were bought in because of a short fall in motive power when the channel tunnel opened! The British built class 92 was not ready and so two SNCF BB22200 were used to power freights throught the tunnel. These were trains of new cars and containers not the rolling motorway service also useing the tunnel along with the Eurostar trains. The model was a Marklin insider loco the year it opened! The yellow ends are for the British safety standard rules, as you righty said. The locomotives ran for some time after use in the tunnel with there yellow cabs. The cat number is 83320 and hears mine Edited by user 23 January 2014 23:00:29(UTC)
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Hi, Here is an odd mixed train of mostly SNCF vehicles which I ran on my layout today. It represents something that may have happened in 1950. And most of the models come from decades ago. I am very fond of older models. The CIWL car is being sent to the CIWL works at St Denis in Paris for refurbishment. This car usually runs between Kehl and Munchen. It has been joined to a local SNCF train from St Rufus (an imaginary border town on my layout) to a town further west, Saint-dié-des-Vosges. There the CIWL car will be taken on to Paris by another train. The train consists of first, a Pacific loco, 231A975 (Marklin 3317 with latest mfx decoder). Then a CIWL Orient Express diner car (Marklin 346/2j from 1950s). Then a freight baggage (VB model catalogue #23 all metal from 1950s). Then a 6 wheel local coach (Marklin 4204) And a 4 wheel local coach (Fleischmann 1406 from 1950s repainted for SNCF)  regards Kimball |
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Found you another prototype photo of a 231K with blue sleepers. Alsterstreek attached the following image(s): |
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Hi, Facts on SNCF non-revenue rolling stock, prior to 1972. (Mostly provided by Joel = TrainIride) Service Park Wagon - Specific wagons, or old ones after refurbishment, used by the SNCF for the company work. Showing the lettering used to differentiate them in the different service departments. The lettering appears to be about 1 metre high, in white: T for Transport Dept EX for Operation (not very clear for me !) M for Material MT for Material & Transport V for tracks VB for tracks & Buildings An example, from an interesting website http://www.trains-speciaux.fr/cadres/page_wagons_m.htm:  then after the letter, follows (small): - the name of the station (after T) - the name of the workshop (after M or V) then after, follows a number: - of 12 digits if allowed to run every where - except if a letter after that indicates the only region where to run ! - of 1 to 3 digits if not allowed to run on principal tracks regards Kimball |
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Originally Posted by: intruder Unfortunately, I have only one French model: Märrklin 3118, the Micheline type 11 from Compagnie des chemins de fer de l'Est, in service from March 21. 1932 This is not quite correct. I also have the Märklin 3145, SNCF Y50100  and the freight car set 47892  I will see if I can find more |
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Hi, Marklin built this 4-8-2 in O gauge, in 1934 or thereabouts. Anyway it is a great model, and no doubt, they still have the plans for it in their factory at Goppingen. Perhaps they will do it in HO someday. Edited by user 13 April 2014 10:14:12(UTC)
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intruder wrote:Märrklin 3118, the Micheline type 11 from Compagnie des chemins de fer de l'Est, in service from March 21. 1932 When I buy a model, I try to find as many facts about the prototype as possible. A lot of information can be found on the web, but it is very limited for the Micheline. As far as I know, it had a 95 ch Panhard petrol engine. but I have no details. Does anybody know something about this? Engine layout, engine displacement Maximum speed for this interesting vehicle (100 km/h?) I will issue a full report regarding my digital conversion when it is finished. My progress is rather slow these days. |
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Hi Svein, looking at this film we can confirm that the maximum speed was 100 km/h. Running test in Italy 1932 Edited by user 09 April 2014 23:14:57(UTC)
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