LS Models has announced the pending release of even more new Swiss models:

The new releases include the upgraded Bpm (UIC (RIC) ex compartment coaches type Bm 11) in several variants. Each item comes as a set of two. Also released are the upgraded versions of the Bpm 1979 (Eurofima like) in the EWIV IC livery, the famous "Chamaeleon" test livery used before the delivery of the new EC coaches and the current corporate livery with short and normal red bands adjacent to the doors. Photos can be found on the http://www.lsmodels.com/Pages/General_F/Home_F.htm page.

Looks like I gotta plan another bank job.;)

Regards

Mike C

Mike, where do you get them from? Germany direct or a dealer in North America?

Mike,

thanks for the great info. Can you tell me the length of these coaches? Is it 303mm?

Thanks!

Mario

LS Models coaches are exact scale 1/87. For 26,400mm coaches this works out to 303mm. The coaches can be used on radii greater than 360mm. S curves may be a problem if less than 450mm radii track is used.
LSM coaches are delivered with DC wheelsets with the exception of AC models (loks/trainsets). AC wheelsets can normally be ordered from the dealer. Some may provide this service for free while others may charge for the wheelsets.
If the dealer charges you for AC wheelsets, make sure that the original DC wheelsets are also included.

DC wheelsets can be operated on K and C Track. Layouts using uninsulated axles for track signalling and other functions can still use DC wheelsets as long as an axle contact is installed on the bogie and one of the axles has been reversed so that contact from both rails is shared.

For AC wheelsets, you can use any appropriate AC wheelset (Roco, etc) with the appropriate shaped axle shaft ends.

Regards

Mike C

My dealings with LSM pertained to the Bpm1979 and rebuild models, specifically with the dimensions of the red and black bands at window height. I was not aware of any problems with the B (ex-RIC Bm) models, other than the fact that the final prototype photos did not show the correct details for each specific model listed. The actual model photographs, as seen here, are the first that I have seen in detail:

http://www.reisezugwagen.eu/?p=7526

http://www.reisezugwagen.eu/?p=7531

The actual coach:
http://www.railfaneurope.../RIC/Bpm51/090920-38.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope...C-X_Bpm_Luxembourg_1.jpg

It does appear that the white band should extend all the way around the coach and not only on the sides.

If I would have noticed that, I would definitely have sent another email to LSM and TBK. Sorry about missing that one.

Hopefully, this detail will be corrected in future productions, for those who can't overlook this detail.

Regards

Mike C

We already knew that they were incapable of mounting steps on Swiss models. French, German, Belgian and other models have steps. SBB models have them separately packaged.

The missing rain deflectors is puzzling. That does not sound like something that Tobias Kohler would slip up on. I am guessing that somebody is going to be a little peeved with Modern Gala.

Has anybody checked other models of the Bm11 to see whether the rain gutter is missing on those as well. I will be checking my 47220. My 47223 and 47219 coaches have not been delivered yet.

Regards

Mike C

Edited by user 05 October 2011 02:59:27(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

The following was posted in Forum LR Presse by Daniel Piron (LS Models): http://www.lrpresse.fr/t...ilit=47214&start=735

"Les voitures UIC-X Bpm et Bpmz SBB CFF.
Nuances des peintures vertes : pas moins de 3 nuances ont été relevées : photos a l’appui, nous les mettrons a votre disposition a Exporail.
Peinture de la toiture de bout : sur une partie de la production, plusieurs clients nous ont signalés l’absence de retour de la bande blanche : les modèles seront échangés via le réseau de distribution, dès la relance d’une production novembre 2011.
Absence de la gouttières au dessus des portière sur une face de la voiture : l’erreur semble ici plus grossière et naturellement un remplacement des modèles sera de même envisagé."

My translation: "The SBB UIC-X Bpm and Bpmz
Minor Details of the green paint. No less than three minor details were reported. We will have supporting photos for you at Exporail.
Paint at the end of the roof. One some of the production, some customers reported that the white band does not wrap around the end of the coach. Those affected models will be exchanged via the distribution system following the resumption of production in November 2011.
The missing rain channels (gutters) above the doors on one side of the coach: This flaw seems more serious and naturally a replacement of the models will be considered."

As far as I was aware, the issues were as follows: 1) White band should extend all the way around the end of the coach, 2) the end of the coach above the white line should be painted the same colour as the roof. I am not certain what the third issue was, and Mr. Piron does not elaborate in his post. AFAIK the issue concern only the Bpm coaches (ex-RIC Bm1972) and not the Bpm/B (ex-UIC Z Bpm1979) coaches.

Modellers will have to decide if they want to keep the models with the flaws or whether they want to replace them with the improved version that will be available later this year. The faulty models may have some collectors value, but many will prefer to have the models with the correct appearance. If you have preordered these coaches, contact your dealer to let them know whether to ship the models to you or to retain them pending the correction from the factory.

FOLLOW UP (Also from posts in LR Presse):

"Bpm SBB CFF: il semble bien que notre collaborateur qui a réalisé les décos s'est...planté: donc retirage complet pour remplacement. Heureusement cette erreur a été constatée suffisamment tôt que pour modifier sur production en cours."

"Bpm SBB: It seems as if our collaborator who designed the decos? made a mistake, hence the complete withdrawal for replacement. Fortunately this error was noticed sufficiently early to permit the correction during production."

(Not sure which model he is referring to here. I had earlier reported problems with the height of the black and red band at window height on the B current (ICN) livery models of the former Bpm1979 models.) That detail was corrected before the models went into final production.

MORE REGARDING WRm RESTAURANT COACH MODELS:

"Le programme des restos SBB se poursuivra par la version TEE dans un set de 3 voitures "BAVARIA" et une autre variante orange dans un set JJR avec voitures "eurofima" et Bpmz. Un article est bientôt prévu sur cette relation dans LR. Il restera encore ensuite 3 autres variantes (porte de service ou non) dont nous n'avons pas encore déterminé l'utilisation. Si vous avez des photos ou des propositions, cela pourra nous orienter."

"The program of SBB (WRm Donauworth) restaurant coaches will be followed by the TEE version in a 3 coach "TEE Bavaria" Set as well as an other orange variant in a JJR Set with "Eurofima" and Bpmz coaches. An article will appear in a forthcoming issue of LR. There will still be 3 other variants (with or without service door) that we have not yet determined how we will market. If you have photos or suggestions, they can help guide us in the right direction."

If anybody can provide more details on what he means by "JJR" it would be appreciated.

Regards

Mike C

Thanks for the clarification. Now that you mention it, the IC Jean-Jacques Rousseau ran on the route Paris-Vallorbe-Lausanne-Geneva in the 1980s, so this would have been a route that might have seen the orange Bpm and WRm. It was among the first trains to be replaced by TGV service once Swiss destinations were added to the schedule.

Regards

Mike C

Looking good mike! Is that your layout in the background?