Hello Jeehring,

Any photo ?

Did find it on eBay but can't seem to find the revision date on the loco,,,

Would like to know the revision date if possible. Thank's.

Pål

Sorry Pal...what is a "revision date" ? Tell me please...I don't know what it is...

About photo, no I don't have for the moment, sorry again.
Anyway, a photo will give you an idea of course....But an average photo couldn't give the true finish or real appearance or differences of nuances nor reproduce some of the qualities of the work...(nothing better than your own look, own eye )

I am expecting my model this week. I paid EUR 206 including shipping from Johnvandamme on eBay. The lok represents the lok as it appeared around 1965. I don't have a specific delivery date for the Ae 6/6 11409, but I presume it was sometime around 1955-57. By 1965, it should have already received a R1, so I would expect to see either a REC date for the original delivery or a REV date from it's first revision. The Lok has the light gray undercarriage, bogies and buffers as well as the original silver roof. The one thing missing on this model is the "falschfahrlicht", the red light situated under the top light between the front windows. The model also has a slightly incorrect Swiss crest on the front of the loks. The Canton loks (11401-11425) had a larger brass base for the crest. The model, like all the other Maerklin and Hag Canton loks has a printed instead of raised chrome stripes on the front and sides of the lok. AFAIK this model has the latest sound module, which is the same as the one in the 37360 Ae 610.
The model has the slightly darker green that SBB loks carried in the 1950s, 60s until the early 1970s. The matching coaches would be the LSM RIC SBB Coaches in late Era III livery (47215/47216/47217) as well as LSM and Roco DB coaches in the original blue (Aum) and green (Bum). ACME also makes models of Era III FS UIC and other coach types that were common on the Gotthard route.
For freight cars, I would recommend the 47889 FS freight car set, as well as any SBB, SNCF, SNCB, NS or DB freight cars from the 1960s. International freight traffic on the Gotthard was marshalled at Muttenz near Basel and would then make the trip to Chiasso, from where they were marshalled again and then carried on to their destinations in Italy by FS loks. Domestic SBB Freight trains would go from their point of assembly to their destination. Many domestic freights consisted of cars that would be detached along the way to be carried to their destination by local trains or even by electric or diesel shunters. The beauty of a Gotthard freight train was the assortment of various nationalities, designs and colours (private cars).

FS Freight car Set: http://cgi.ebay.de/Markl...&hash=item53e7900b4a

Regards

Mike C

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1950s-197X Dark Olive Green
197X-1984 Olive Green (All loks were repainted in the 1970s as part of general revisions in a lighter shade of olive green)
1983/4-1987 Feuerrot (Fire Red)
1987-2011 Verkehrsrot (Traffic Red)

See: http://www.trainweb.ch/modellbaufarben_sbb.htm
and here: http://www.drehscheibe-f...10,57327,57327#msg-57327

If you look at, say Roco models 45108/109 (EWII Era III) and compare them to the regular models (44323/324/etc), you can see the difference between Era III and Era IV.
Same can be seen with the new LS Models RIC coaches and with other coaches and loks as well. The SBB switched to a lighter shade of olive green in the early 1970s. Most loks and coaches received the new livery during regular maintenance starting about 1972/73 (estimate). At the same time, the silver roofs were repainted in the gray shade that still exists today.

I hope you are still not confused now.

Regards

Mike C

Hello Mike,

difficult to say. Roco's body probably is made of plastic. With plastic injection you can reach very small raised surface.

I do not know if with metal injection it can be reached with the same accuracy easily. So depending from the technolgy, maybe the mould cannot be simply "modified"

do you have experience in metal injection?

rgds

Stephan

Hi Roland,

Thanks for posting, I missed the news from Märklin on this model. Seems like a nice model of the Ae 6/6, which I will consider buying.

It can be done probably.....but are you sure that the thickness is accurately 1:87 scale ?....
Most of the time you find some categories of people complaining that the reliefs are not at correct scale because oversized (thickness)....
A thickness of 1 cm in 1:1 scale should be round about 1 tenth of millimeter in 1:87 (1 tenth +)....
Do you know how much is the thickness of the stripes at 1:1 scale ?

Hello Roland,

Thank's for help.

On my Ae 6/6 it is to the left of the door (right hand side of both side's of the locomotive)
very small letters it is,,, I also needed a rather good magnifying glass to be able to read it...

My model from the 29680 read's "Ue mst 15.11.55"

Thank's again
Pål

The Received/Revision information on the side of the Ae 6/6 11409 Maerklin Model #37437 is as follows: Heimatbahnhof Erstfeld/R1 BE (Bellinzona) 21.10.60, which represents the first revision of the lok after delivery.

Regarding the 29680 lok, Ue stands for Uebernommen (Taken Over) and the date. "mst" does not ring a bell. I will have to look this up.

Regards

Mike C

Thanks for the information. I was not able to find this on my own. Most of my models with original delivery details have Ue or Rec Oer, which I presume stands for Oerlikon (Maschinenfabrik Oerlikon = MFO). (Yes, they are mostly Re 4/4II/Re 4/4IV)
How exactly does the SBB receive a new lok? Is it where the lok is made or specifically the place where the SBB assumes control (ownership) from the manufacturer? Do the Re 482/484/474 etc have Ue Basel labels as that is where they enter Switzerland or are they taken into possession by SBB through SBBC Germany and recorded as such?

Regards

Mike C

Thank you for nice information Mike_C and Unholz

The model 37437 Ae 6/6 has REV date 21.10.60
and the model 37596 Ae 8/14 has REV date 12.01.61

Thank's to my friend Lutz for this info

Thanks Stefan.

I guess that it is possible that the loks were brought to Bellinzona by Bombardier or Siemens (depending on manufacturer) and the formal handover to the SBB occurred there.
I will have to try to look through my resources to find out more details. I do remember there was a great deal of photos of the Re 474 and Re 484 at Basel and a number being towed in Germany and in Switzerland. Same applies to the Am840 diesel (AFAIR).

Regards

Mike C