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Deborail		#1 Posted : 20 April 2011 18:50:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 819 Location: RAK		Dear Friends I have found a trix ALCO PA-1 double loco set and I am seriously considering purchasing it.... I am waiting for encouragement from those who have similar marklin ALCO PA-1s.. My impression is that these are one of the best US locos doen by Marklin/Trix on par with the big boy and the GG-1...I have these two and I am very impressed... My finger is hovering on the click button...What do you think...Buy? http://www.trix.de/produ...05&picname=22805.jpg
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gachar001		#2 Posted : 20 April 2011 19:40:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		I have the M* version of the loco but I don't have the dummy. It looks really nice and sounds nice (mine has FX. Not sure if there is an MFX version with more functions). It is big and heavy. Only thing negative I can say about it is that it struggles a little while climbing up my slope. But I know that I have some oil residue on the tracks which I am sure is not helping. Go for it.
		Gautham Atlanta, GA USA


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jeehring		#3 Posted : 20 April 2011 20:57:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: gachar001 I have the M* version of the loco but I don't have the dummy. It looks really nice and sounds nice (mine has FX. Not sure if there is an MFX version with more functions). It is big and heavy. Only thing negative I can say about it is that it struggles a little while climbing up my slope. But I know that I have some oil residue on the tracks which I am sure is not helping. Go for it. .....I don't think that there are "dummy" PA 1 units.....are you sure ? I only know double units , all motorized (double motorization). I love this Marklin model: heavy & powerful.


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gachar001		#4 Posted : 20 April 2011 23:03:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,391 Location: Chennai		Originally Posted by: jeehring Originally Posted by: gachar001 I have the M* version of the loco but I don't have the dummy. It looks really nice and sounds nice (mine has FX. Not sure if there is an MFX version with more functions). It is big and heavy. Only thing negative I can say about it is that it struggles a little while climbing up my slope. But I know that I have some oil residue on the tracks which I am sure is not helping. Go for it. .....I don't think that there are "dummy" PA 1 units.....are you sure ? I only know double units , all motorized (double motorization). I love this Marklin model: heavy & powerful. Ok. I used the wrong terminology here. I meant double unit. I didn't know that the second unit was also motorized.
		Gautham Atlanta, GA USA


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Bigdaddynz		#5 Posted : 21 April 2011 01:11:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,768 Location: New Zealand		Ebay dealer HR4920 has some of the Marklin versions available for sale. He has a single UP unit, and a Santa Fe Double unit for sale, although I think the Double unit at 555 euros is too expensive. A friend of mine has these locos and they are quite impressive. I wish I had got some when Marklin USA had them on sale a couple of years ago. Some pictures from hr4920's auctions http://cgi.ebay.com/K8-M...&hash=item1c18d0dca7 http://cgi.ebay.com/G7-M...&hash=item1c18f71c63 hr4920 also has a 3060/3061 UP F7 double unit for sale http://cgi.ebay.com/K9-M...&hash=item1c19cb20fa
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Deborail		#6 Posted : 21 April 2011 05:00:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 819 Location: RAK		Lovely pictures...thanks. Against all economic sence i have now bought this. Expect nice photos here.
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Marius in Africa		#7 Posted : 21 April 2011 06:21:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 424 Location: Boksburg, Gauteng		Originally Posted by: Deborail Lovely pictures...thanks. Against all economic sence i have now bought this. Expect nice photos here. Good for you George. I have the Märklin 37610 / 39610 double units. They are fantastic, strong with a motor in each unit and really cool sounds. My units do not look at all like it is straining on any of the inclines on the layout. Mine also does not seem to mind dirty track so much.
		Marius in Africa HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.


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klarinettmeister		#8 Posted : 21 April 2011 13:16:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg		Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Originally Posted by: Deborail Lovely pictures...thanks. Against all economic sence i have now bought this. Expect nice photos here. Good for you George. I have the Märklin 37610 / 39610 double units. They are fantastic, strong with a motor in each unit and really cool sounds. My units do not look at all like it is straining on any of the inclines on the layout. Mine also does not seem to mind dirty track so much. George, I agree with Marius. They don´t seem to struggle on inclines. I also have the Märklin 37610/49610 double unit. I haven´t tried yet, but I imagine they'll pull almost everything you put after it. Congrats George! I'd be surprised if you regret buying the units. I guess the Trix version is identical to the Märklin units. I also see that Märklin is going to release the Wabash with the PA-1 this month!! I hope I get number 0001 but I don´t think I will get that low number although I ordered it as soon as I heard of it in this fantastic forum.
		37624 F7, my first review My layout in construction. /David


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Marius in Africa		#9 Posted : 21 April 2011 18:46:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 424 Location: Boksburg, Gauteng		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister .......George, I agree with Marius. They don´t seem to struggle on inclines. I also have the Märklin 37610/49610 double unit. I haven´t tried yet, but I imagine they'll pull almost everything you put after it...................I also see that Märklin is going to release the Wabash with the PA-1 this month!....... I am waiting patiently to see how the “Wabash” single header is going to perform, compared to the double header UP PA1 (37610.....combo).
		Marius in Africa HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.


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klarinettmeister		#10 Posted : 22 April 2011 01:08:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg		Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister .......George, I agree with Marius. They don´t seem to struggle on inclines. I also have the Märklin 37610/49610 double unit. I haven´t tried yet, but I imagine they'll pull almost everything you put after it...................I also see that Märklin is going to release the Wabash with the PA-1 this month!....... I am waiting patiently to see how the “Wabash” single header is going to perform, compared to the double header UP PA1 (37610.....combo). If it´s the same as 37610 it´s no problem. I actually did a test with the 6 cars from 26600 CZ + the extra car 43614. The single loco without 49610 had no problems at all pulling the consist. But maybe I´ve got mine from a good batch.
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Caboose		#11 Posted : 24 April 2011 20:54:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 187 Location: , Sweden		I dont know the exact specifics for TRIX version. But this goes for Marklin version: 37610 Union Pacific, FX decoder. 49610 is the booster-unit. 37611 Santa Fe, FX decoder. 49611 is the booster-unit. 37612 Rio Grande double-unit. MFX decoder. 37613 Southern Pacific double-unit. MFX decoder. NOTE THIS! When locomotives with FX decoder is put together as a pair, 37610/49610 or 37611/49611, there will be NOICE from the booster-unit. This noice sounds like an extreme oildry electric motor, but thats not the case. Why this noice appears i dont know, but there was speculations about the decoder. I dont think the MFX-versions got this noice. Otherwise, this is real nice models with metalbody and heavy weight (Edit. The MFX versions got way better soundquality)
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AshleyH		#12 Posted : 25 April 2011 14:50:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 693 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset		There was also the 2-Tone Grey New York Central PA-1 produced for 2 starter sets:- 29570 - FX Decoder with Sound 29575 - MFX Decoder with Sound (Same running no. as 29570). I have the original combi of 37610 and 49610 and I have no unusual noise when running them, so it may depend on which production batch you have.


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Caboose		#13 Posted : 25 April 2011 19:06:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 187 Location: , Sweden		@ Ashley. Do you always has the motorsound on at full volume? I mean, its with all sound OFF you really hear the noice.
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Marius in Africa		#14 Posted : 26 April 2011 09:13:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 424 Location: Boksburg, Gauteng		Originally Posted by: Caboose ...........NOTE THIS! When locomotives with FX decoder is put together as a pair, 37610/49610 or 37611/49611, there will be NOICE from the booster-unit. This noice sounds like an extreme oildry electric motor, but thats not the case. Why this noice appears i dont know, but there was speculations about the decoder. I dont think the MFX-versions got this noice............. (Edit. The MFX versions got way better soundquality) I noticed this with my 37610/49610 combo as well and could not understand it since i know the oiling is fine. The axles and the motor bearings were recently oiled. What is the solution; to replace the decoder with a new generation Loksound 4? This is a fairly expensive solution!
		Marius in Africa HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.


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Caboose		#15 Posted : 26 April 2011 10:13:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 187 Location: , Sweden		@ Marius. I dont know the right solution to this problem. I have been very bored and disappointed on the noice. But my own and absolutely cheapest solution is trying to IGNORE it and drive the loco anyway..
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MarioFabro		#16 Posted : 27 April 2011 14:35:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: Pittsburgh,		I have the 37611+49611 combo, thanks to a "special" from Marklin store in USA four years ago (I think I paid less than $ 400 for the two). I like this loco very much. Unfortunately, did not 'log' that many miles (or meters?) on the track since I am still working on my lay-out. Did not experience any problem when I ran it.. sound is very good. Since, I went on a rampage and got, in the same Santa Fe livery, an F7 A-B-A "package" (33622 + 4063 + 40622) and also the streamlined coaches 43601 Streamliner Car 43602 Streamilner Sleeper 43603 Streamliner Baggage 43604 Streamliner Observation 43614 Streamliner Vista Dome Also have two sets of the boxcars 45651 That's a lot of Americana for a Swiss modern era modeller!
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Deborail		#17 Posted : 04 May 2011 18:29:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 819 Location: RAK		It is here.......Many Photos and a mini-review to follow....
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Hackcell		#18 Posted : 24 May 2014 07:06:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Originally Posted by: Caboose ...........NOTE THIS! When locomotives with FX decoder is put together as a pair, 37610/49610 or 37611/49611, there will be NOICE from the booster-unit. This noice sounds like an extreme oildry electric motor, but thats not the case. Why this noice appears i dont know, but there was speculations about the decoder. I dont think the MFX-versions got this noice............. (Edit. The MFX versions got way better soundquality) I noticed this with my 37610/49610 combo as well and could not understand it since i know the oiling is fine. The axles and the motor bearings were recently oiled. What is the solution; to replace the decoder with a new generation Loksound 4? This is a fairly expensive solution! Hi, How did you connect both units to the single ESU decoder? Thanks!
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