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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#1 Posted : 14 February 2011 15:03:38(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Hi all,
I open this topic to share experience about the new Märklin app.
I have bought this app yesterday evening and all run ok.
No istruction about it or FAQ or other on Märklin site and in the web for now.

What you need is:

1 computer with iTunes installed
1 valid account on iTunes
1 running wifi network
1 free plug on your router to connect CS2 by cable
1 iPhod touch or iPhone or iPad (see in the apple shop what model are compatible)
1 a bit of experience with computer/net/IP ecc.

The step to install:

Connect the iPod to computer with iTunes and configure it (easy)
Connect the iPod to your wifi net (easy)
Go on the App Märklin shop, buy and run the MS app (easy)
Turn on CS2 and connect to the router (easy)
Wait until the iPod MS see the CS2 (easy but I've got some gremlins problems)
Run your trains

What are gremlins?
Here the two kind available, good
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and bad
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One bad at the start of this video...
http://www.railtv.fr/smo...mberg/mardi/default.html
(very friendly video, no?)

Coming back to the app, now all ok, you can operate the same loco on CS2 and iPod together, all what you do on one you can see on the other. Take a loco and command is fast and easy, and the same for the keyboard.
All the loco that you have on CS2 are available on iPod with name and miniature.
Now I want to test how many MS can run simultaneously, but for this I need some friends. Smile
A video coming soon if you want.

see you later
bye
Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline jeehring  
#2 Posted : 14 February 2011 15:40:51(UTC)
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thank you for sharing.
Can we operate two different loco simultaneously as well , one on I-pad, another one on CS2 ? (I hope so Smile )or having a loco on I pad and keyboard display on CS2 simultaneously ?
Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#3 Posted : 14 February 2011 16:22:31(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Alberto

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Offline jeehring  
#4 Posted : 14 February 2011 18:49:30(UTC)
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As soon as "I POD has seen your CS2" through the router and as soon as we have bought the Marklin Apps, can we switch off the PC and run our layout only with CS 2 & I-Pod ...without PC ? Is the PC only necessary to install softwares or do you need it also while running trains and layout ?
Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#5 Posted : 14 February 2011 19:52:49(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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After the configuration of the iPod you need only the router, CS2 and iPod.
Now I'm testing a router without adsl connection, to create a network only for trains.
Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline Webmaster  
#6 Posted : 14 February 2011 20:22:19(UTC)
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Seems to work very good indeed... However, I feel it still lacks a bit ergonomically since you seem to have to use 2 hands to operate it... TouchCab (CS1/Ecos, no CS2 yet) is easily operated with one thumb only...

Looks very nice though, and transparent interaction with CS2 seems to be well implemented. That's a difference as seen compared to TouchCab & CS1, only one of them can have control simultaneously. The M app extends the CS2 control to the iThingy, since the iThingy becomes a device on the CAN bus logically. The TouchCab is more like a terminal that communicates with the CS1 over the network...

I wonder what happens with an iPad, there's display size enough to show the full CS2 display... Then it would be really comfortable... Anyone who knows?
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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Offline Goofy  
#7 Posted : 14 February 2011 20:53:02(UTC)
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It´s very interested technology.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#8 Posted : 14 February 2011 23:00:41(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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At the fair I saw the second app, not yet available, to have the draw of your layout on iPad.
Very useful compared to the screen of the CS2.
In this enlargement you see the MS app on iPad, the best for big fingers BigGrin

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To use the iPod with only one hand is better the vertical position.

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I'm testing this app for use it on our club layout, but I think that is the best way to enjoy all the sond functions of the new loco.
You can follow it an stay near when activate the various sounds.
Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline jeehring  
#9 Posted : 15 February 2011 05:01:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alberto Pedrini Go to Quoted Post
After the configuration of the iPod you need only the router, CS2 and iPod.
Now I'm testing a router without adsl connection, to create a network only for trains.

thank you very much.
I think I have made a mixed up between I-Pad & I-Phone may be...
With an I-phone I believed we can "join" I-tunes without any computer....but I'm not sure.
Do you know if I-Phone has the same way of configuration with PC ?
User is suspended until 24/11/2846 07:19:16(UTC) Bigdaddynz  
#10 Posted : 15 February 2011 05:21:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
I wonder what happens with an iPad, there's display size enough to show the full CS2 display... Then it would be really comfortable... Anyone who knows?



I've only tried the free version of Touchcab with the iPad, but the screen looks the same. You can have 2 choices of screen size - the normal iPod size, or fully extended to the size of the iPad's screen, but there is no difference to what is displayed.
Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#11 Posted : 15 February 2011 10:19:51(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
With an I-phone I believed we can "join" I-tunes without any computer....but I'm not sure.
Do you know if I-Phone has the same way of configuration with PC ?


iPhone can do all itself, if you have a running router wifi just connect the CS2 via cable and start on.
However you can download the app without CS2 and use it in demo mode to test what happen.

The last test was take the router from my office, put it alone in the trains room, connect only CS2 e start the app on iPod, all ok, the system run.
So I think to buy a new router for my office and assign the old to the trains room.
Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline jeehring  
#12 Posted : 15 February 2011 16:10:30(UTC)
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Thank you Alberto . The functionning of all those "i-things" is now easier to understand for me.
Really amazing.Through a high degree of interaction between i-things & CS2, Marklin seems to have made it simple & so userfriendly....
Offline jeehring  
#13 Posted : 15 February 2011 17:00:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
...(...).... That's a difference as seen compared to TouchCab & CS1, only one of them can have control simultaneously. ...(...)...?


Excuse me Juhan, I'm not sure to understand , what you mean with : " ...only one of them can have control simultaneously..."
Where is the difference, do you mean that direct control of a lok cannot be made at the same time on both CS2 & iPod ?
When driving one loco with i pod, CS1 doesn't show that this loco is running ?....or viceversa ...
Offline Webmaster  
#14 Posted : 15 February 2011 21:55:33(UTC)
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Roland, I was talking about TouchCab/CS1 in this statement.

Sorry if I brought this into this topic to confuse everyone, but the TouchCab app for CS1/Ecos/others is not the same as the Märklin iThingy app for CS2.

Yes, it's either or with TouchCab/CS1 (easy to reassign control, though) while the M/CS2 app seems to be completely interactive with CS2 with no "master controller" assignment for a single loco.

But these are 2 completely different iThingy apps at the same low price...

Since I don't have a CS2, the M app is nothing for me yet... Unless it also supports CS1... But since I have an iPod 2nd gen, the M app won't work anyway... Sad
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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Offline jeehring  
#15 Posted : 16 February 2011 11:45:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Roland, I was talking about TouchCab/CS1 in this statement.

Sorry if I brought this into this topic to confuse everyone, but the TouchCab app for CS1/Ecos/others is not the same as the Märklin iThingy app for CS2.

Yes, it's either or with TouchCab/CS1 (easy to reassign control, though) while the M/CS2 app seems to be completely interactive with CS2 with no "master controller" assignment for a single loco.

But these are 2 completely different iThingy apps at the same low price...

...(...).... Sad


Not at all, you haven't brought the topic to confuse me. I have made a typo mistake. Comparisons always are interesting. Thank you.
Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#16 Posted : 17 February 2011 00:42:19(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Hi all,
today I've tested again the app on my modular layout, great experience, it works very well.
I've used the iPod by one hand, in vertical position.
It is the most fast control that I've never used, waiting time to change a loco = zero, the CS2 is a sloth.
In one hand ten loco ready to run, with their images, plus all the stored in CS, plus the keyboard pages, and in a second you can change area, very very fast.
I'm enthusiast.
For the first time I've used all the sound functions of the new locos.
You drive the loco (near it), see the station, whistle, brake, stop at the platform roof, release brake air, compressor, station announcement, wait the comnig train on the opposite direction and take the control of it. Switch the turnout, whistle, ecc.
For the test I've replaced my 6021+c80f+keyboard with the CS2. There are two circuits, one supplied by CS2 and the other by my old booster Power 3 Uhlenbrock, that run perfect connected on its socket, mxf included. There are 12 block section with brake module Viessmann, Märklin and Uhlenbrock, and 30 digital turnouts, signals and other things.
Only the CS2 trafo is insulated from the other circuits, no other change to the connections.
This iPod touch (the last model)+ Märklin app is fantastic.
And you know how I'm a Jurassic sixtytwentyoneist. BigGrin
Alberto

Marklinfan Club Italia
www.marklinfan.net
Offline jeehring  
#17 Posted : 17 February 2011 19:14:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Roland, I was talking about TouchCab/CS1 in this statement.

Sorry if I brought this into this topic to confuse everyone, but the TouchCab app for CS1/Ecos/others is not the same as the Märklin iThingy app for CS2.

Yes, it's either or with TouchCab/CS1 (easy to reassign control, though) while the M/CS2 app seems to be completely interactive with CS2 with no "master controller" assignment for a single loco.

But these are 2 completely different iThingy apps at the same low price...

Since I don't have a CS2, the M app is nothing for me yet... Unless it also supports CS1... But since I have an iPod 2nd gen, the M app won't work anyway... Sad

Blushing Blushing ..hum...excuse me again...About Touchcab with ipodtouch & CS1....suppose I'm driving a Lock first on my Ipod , - is it possible ?....speed at 60km/h ,diesel motor sound is activated, interior cab light is on. Information displayed on Ipod screen is : speed 60 km/h,Function 1 and 3 activated.
Then I want to drive this Lok with my CS1, as soon as I re assign control to the CS1, what's happenning : is THIS Lok already & automatically displayed on the CS1 screen, or had I to select it first on CS1 before going on my iPod, or have I to select it from the loco list again(if not already diplayed on CS1 screen) ?
Does the CS1 screen display the speed (60km/h) and the status of the functions (Functions 1 & 3 activated)choosen on ipodtouch ?
Is it the same if I start driving on the CS1 then I go on iPodtouch: have I to select the loco from the locolist on iPod or not ? Does iPodtouch screen display the current speed and functions status choosen on CS1 ?
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