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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 14 February 2011 13:54:42(UTC)
steventrain

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Anyone own the 4998 +4999 digital coaches?

Any issue on it?

I know both are different to find, Thanks in advance.
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Offline Nigel Packer  
#2 Posted : 14 February 2011 17:36:37(UTC)
Nigel Packer

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Yes, I have both. No real issues, though they use very early implementations of Digital decoders.

Mine live in a display case, though, so they don't get out much or have hard use.

Nigel
Märklin collector since age 5.
H0 Collection from 1935 to today.
Offline steventrain  
#3 Posted : 14 February 2011 17:57:12(UTC)
steventrain

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Thanks, Nigel.
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Offline mrmarklin  
#4 Posted : 16 February 2011 07:51:12(UTC)
mrmarklin

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The waiter car is not close coupled.:-(
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Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 16 February 2011 10:14:15(UTC)
steventrain

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Originally Posted by: mrmarklin Go to Quoted Post
The waiter car is not close coupled.:-(


Thanks, It is a relex standard coupling.
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Offline RayF  
#6 Posted : 16 February 2011 11:47:15(UTC)
RayF

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Hi Stephen,

I think I read somewhere that these digital coaches could not be controlled by the new controllers like the CS and MS, and would only work with the 6021. I'm not sure about CS2 and MS2.

Maybe someone who has these coaches could confirm if there is any truth in this?
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline Nigel Packer  
#7 Posted : 16 February 2011 13:41:11(UTC)
Nigel Packer

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They work very well with the CS2!

Nigel
Märklin collector since age 5.
H0 Collection from 1935 to today.
Offline db ice3  
#8 Posted : 20 December 2012 23:53:57(UTC)
db ice3


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Location: uk
hello,

could someone tell me what year (s) the 4998 coach was sold by marklin and roughly what was the retail price of it then?

kind regards

jay
Offline Markus Schild  
#9 Posted : 21 December 2012 21:12:03(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi Jay,

The car was in the 1990 assortment only. It was extremely expensive for that period: The regular retail price in Germany was only a little bit lower than 400 DM (~200 EUR). In the US the suggested retail price was 412.00 USD. For that money you also had the choice of a crocodile 3352.

Regards

Markus

Offline db ice3  
#10 Posted : 25 December 2012 15:21:01(UTC)
db ice3


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Location: uk
hello markus

thanks for the info

im not sure that they are worth the high prices being asked of them 2nd hand today.

they have novelty value but its now very dated technology - if there was some way to have proper music rather than the very basic beep-beep tones of this early generation of decoders. maybe a 2nd sound decoder with music uploaded into it could be piggy-backed onto the built-in decoder which would then just move the figures inside and flash the lights lol.
Offline 60904  
#11 Posted : 28 December 2012 21:21:03(UTC)
60904

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Originally Posted by: db ice3 Go to Quoted Post
hello markus

thanks for the info

im not sure that they are worth the high prices being asked of them 2nd hand today.

they have novelty value but its now very dated technology - if there was some way to have proper music rather than the very basic beep-beep tones of this early generation of decoders. maybe a 2nd sound decoder with music uploaded into it could be piggy-backed onto the built-in decoder which would then just move the figures inside and flash the lights lol.



The waiter car is probably one of the best things Märklin ever made for digital operation. You are right that the beep, beep music is outdated. Anyway very rare models and hard to find for little money.

Best regards
Martin
Offline mrmarklin  
#12 Posted : 28 December 2012 23:04:01(UTC)
mrmarklin

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Originally Posted by: db ice3 Go to Quoted Post
hello markus

thanks for the info

im not sure that they are worth the high prices being asked of them 2nd hand today.

they have novelty value but its now very dated technology - if there was some way to have proper music rather than the very basic beep-beep tones of this early generation of decoders. maybe a 2nd sound decoder with music uploaded into it could be piggy-backed onto the built-in decoder which would then just move the figures inside and flash the lights lol.


To some extent the dated technology is very charming. Kind of like the horns that were available back in the sixties for some of the E-Loks of the day. These items are also very scarce and expensive when found.Mellow
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