Hi all,

I am building my new layout, and I reached the phase of test-running. Great to see the trains back on track again.

On the layout so far I use 16 blocks, controlled by contact rails, which trigger the usual routes.
And I use several shadow stations with a total of 20 tracks, controlled by reeds, which trigger another set of routes. So in total some 36 routes to make the trains run as they should.

Now the big question. Everything seems to be working just great, as long as I do NOT use the CS2 manually. If I do use it, to select a loc, or to set some swithces or whatever, things go wrong. It seems that CS2 does not complete the routes that are triggered at the time I use the CS2 manually. The last command of the routes (?) seems to be ignored. On the layout-screens everything looks ok, but in "real life" signals are not switched as they are supposed to.

Not a disaster on routes: it means that a signal that should go green, remains red. Trains come to a "controlled" stop.
But quite a problem in shadow stations: signals not set to red as they should, cause collisions later on.

Has anybody else experienced anything like this? Any explanations or workarounds?

Peter

about the thread "https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=17111".......


it was in case of connection to a PC software ...I think.

S88 is slow by nature . (seems enough for trains)

I read on other forums that above 20 S88-contacts ECos looses its head....(from people using PC software too...)They prefer to choose another way to connect S88 bus to the PC...

I don't trust too much what is said on forums excepted from some rare serious & wellknown contributors that are easily recognizable to their way of presenting & explaining things clearly & soberly....

Edited by user 25 October 2010 12:39:44(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Peter,

It would seem that CS2 users of larger layouts using the CS to it's fullest potential are having this hiccup. There is some discussion about Marklin working on a "fix"

Do you feed track power through the C track, or do you run feeder wire connected every couple of meters?

Which transformers are you using for your boosters?

I am a believer in separation. Clapcott has written about this. I go for track power feeds, all accessories like lights, signals, and scenery with separate power, and using LDT or Viessmann K83, K84, S88 with a separate power feed from the track or any other power user.


r/Thomas

It certainly sounds like the problem is in the CS and not related to power feeds. I hope they can find a fix.

Yes, there are more of us. I reported the problem to Märklin and hope that they will solve this. Also in the German forum (Stummi) there are some people that reported this problem of the none switching routes in some special cases.

Steamer01

My CS2 with update 1.4.0 and GFP 1.35 will not communicate with any of my K83's. It still seems to communicate OK with turnouts that have onboard decoders.

If I replace the CS2 with my CS1, all the K83's work fine.

I haven't tried any train routes as yet, though.

Yes, I have the appropriate plug/cable for each CS each pre wired to a piece of track, which I swap around on the layout. I also checked the protocol setting for the K83 on the CS2, it is set to MM.

Hallo all. I am new to this forum and i think its great.
I have the same problem as peter where as more and more trains go then some of the routes are not completed.
Could it be that as more power is consumed that the cs2 still transmits the command but somehow somewhere the command is lost.
I am thinking of adding more boosters, do you think this will help.
Thanks
Andreas

Welcome in the forum.
Your problem (is my problem) has nothing to do with adding more boosters. I myself use 8 MFX boosters and the CS2 has only to give commends to the signals. Nothing else. The digital signals are powered by a special power module and a separate transformer. So I have power enough but the routes are not all switched when I am looking for other lay outs or other trains in the CS2.

Steamer01

And by the way: also using no boosters at all does not change the problem. I rewired things the other day, using only the CS2 to power all of the layout. The routes-problem still existed.

Hi Andreas,

Welcome to the forum.

I had a similar problem as David (BDNZ) and the turnouts off the Viessmann 5211 when running on track power would work now and then and very slowly. I was using an ECOS with a Lot more power When I switched to a sepatate power supply all problems went. I had 16 Turnouts off the Viessmann 5211 and 22 Turnouts with in track decoders, a mixture of Marklin and Viessmann.

NN

This is not the solution. I have separate power supply for many years. It is a good decoder of Viessmann and separate power supply is a good thing but it doesn't solve the problem of the not always switching routes.

Steamer01

I updated the GFP to version 1.36 today, hoping it might do some good to the routes-problem.
But it does not. I guess we will have to wait for the next CS2 update 1.5.