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The latest version of lokpilot 4 has been released. although ESU is improving (I think) the characteristics of its decoders to improve the running of our locos, neither decoder version can be updated to the next version, e.g. Version 3 to Version 4. Version 3 had quite a few updates since its launch. The other annoying factor has now emerged all lokpilots except the latest, had been able to be programmed by the Lokprogrammer version 2.7.7. the latest version has a new lokprogrammer with version 4. Looking at the history of digital components becoming obsolete when new versions arrive, one looks at the original system bought out by Märklin with 2 or 3 unit being added or altered e.g. 6020-6021, control 80 + control 80f. So will this be a pattern for the future, whereas we are buying expensive Central units and in a couple of years we are being told there are better things on the horizon and get rid of your new old version central unit. the latest version decoder is again made smaller and has the capability for PlusX. Don't know the price as yet. John Edited by user 03 November 2010 12:03:07(UTC)
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I find this interesting: " Analog operationWith LokPilot V4.0 it’s not only possible to limit the start and top speed of your loco in analog mode, you can even determine which of the functions should be active. Even load control is active. Therefore, the LokPilot V4.0 is ideal for locos, which are too fast with a conventional reverser relay. At last your locos crawl in analog mode as slowly as you’re used to with digital layouts" But then again, analog operator would tend to shy away from having to fit any decoder anyway... so who's the potential takers? Unless Marklin (who insist on putting decoders on all their loks) would buy this, but...er, unlikely to happen too after the "divorce". |
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Pardon my ignorance what is PlusX??
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nevw wrote:Pardon my ignorance what is PlusX??
NN Basically Nev, Its a second connection point on the decoder that enables it to be plugged directly into many of the new Roco locomotives, and no doubt some others too. It has a 21 pin socket on the circuit board that can plug into the existing connector in the loco. If I recall from last time I lifted the lid on one of my newer loco's, some of the marklin loco's have this connection too. Cheers.... Mike.
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I like the "energy store" connection points, and look forward to seeing what the power pack looks like. That would remove one of my greatest frustrations to do with modern decoders, their inability to cope with dirty tracks.
When will these decoders be available? I'm thinking of trying one of these out on my next digital conversion. |
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TimR wrote:I find this interesting:
"Analog operation
With LokPilot V4.0 it’s not only possible to limit the start and top speed of your loco in analog mode, you can even determine which of the functions should be active. Even load control is active. Therefore, the LokPilot V4.0 is ideal for locos, which are too fast with a conventional reverser relay. At last your locos crawl in analog mode as slowly as you’re used to with digital layouts" AFAIK all this is already present in LokPilot V 3.0 (only the mfx version doesn't have load control in analog mode). |
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mvd71 wrote:Basically Nev, Its a second connection point on the decoder that enables it to be plugged directly into many of the new Roco locomotives, and no doubt some others too. It has a 21 pin socket on the circuit board that can plug into the existing connector in the loco.
If I recall from last time I lifted the lid on one of my newer loco's, some of the marklin loco's have this connection too. Märklin and ESU created a 21 pin connector called MTC. NMRA and NEM created a connector with 8, 12, 16, or 22 pins called PluX. So there are two incompatible solutions for the same problem. The PluX standard defines maximum sizes for decoders (and locos must reserve that amount of space). AFAIK this is not standardized with MTC (some users tried to add sound to the Märklin Rh. 1012 loco #37309 but had to find that the LokSound decoder doesn't fit; this should not happen with PluX). PluX sound decoders require more space, but the loco manufacturer should tell you if there is space for a sound decoder. A decoder will fit into sockets with more pins (e. g. 8 pin decoder in 22 pin socket). |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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RayPayas wrote:I like the "energy store" connection points, and look forward to seeing what the power pack looks like. That would remove one of my greatest frustrations to do with modern decoders, their inability to cope with dirty tracks.
When will these decoders be available? I'm thinking of trying one of these out on my next digital conversion. Ray, I understood they already available. Catalogue number : 52610, 52612, 52614, 52616 http://www.modelleisenba...1-polige-MTC--14307.htmlJohn |
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river6109 wrote:RayPayas wrote:I like the "energy store" connection points, and look forward to seeing what the power pack looks like. That would remove one of my greatest frustrations to do with modern decoders, their inability to cope with dirty tracks.
When will these decoders be available? I'm thinking of trying one of these out on my next digital conversion. Ray, I understood they already available. Catalogue number : 52610, 52612, 52614, 52616 http://www.modelleisenba...1-polige-MTC--14307.htmlJohn Lokshop doesn't seem to have them in stock yet. I might put in an order anyway. Thanks John! |
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Yes, and I have noticed that Eurolokshop.com has cut their price on v 3.0 but does not have the new ones yet. Eric Edited by moderator 01 November 2010 20:06:08(UTC)
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Hi Mark, anything new stand out for you? Better worse? regards, Thomas |
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GSRR wrote:anything new stand out for you? I don't have that new decoder yet. To change the function mapping you must access CVs above 255 - and reports on Stummi's Forum indicate that this is a problem with some controllers (including ESU's CS1reloaded). |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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The programming problem is solved: CV 31 must be set to 16, then programming will work as documented in the manual.
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Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Hi all,
If you have an ESU lok programmer, you must download and install new lok programmer software V4.0 for the new V4.0 lok pilot decoder.
This is only for lokpilot V4.0 decoders at the moment, may be V4.0 loksound in the future??
You run this parallel to V2.7.7 software.
Cheers,
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Tom and Brian,
useful information, thanks.
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Lollo wrote:Hi all,
If you have an ESU lok programmer, you must download and install new lok programmer software V4.0 for the new V4.0 lok pilot decoder.
This is only for lokpilot V4.0 decoders at the moment, may be V4.0 loksound in the future??
You run this parallel to V2.7.7 software.
Cheers,
Brian. I find it a bit annoying, now we have 2 lokprogrammer programs. I assume, it's ok if you have several locos and you are aware of, which decoder is in each loco. When you have hundreds of them it becomes a problem, sometimes your loco may not have contact with the rail or pukos, so it doesn't respond and you'll open it up to the other lokprogrammer and it still doesn't work, secondly you don't know which decoder is in which loco. Both programmers allow you to access locos fitted with Märklin decoders under the motorola protocol And it looks like there is more to come: availability for 28 functions. 1.) marker light front 2.) marker light rear 3.) panto up front 4.) panto up rear 5.) drivers cab light front 6.) drivers light rear 7.) high beam front 8.) high beam rear 9.) Machine room light 10.) Sound on 11.) Station master whistle 12.) coal shuffling 13.) Station announcement 14.) doors closing 15.) Loco whistle long 16.) loco shunting whistle short 17.) locos horn high pitch 18.) locos horn deep pitch 19.) Water pump 20.) brakes squealing 21.) Generator 22.) Gear light 23.) coal fire light 24.) Telex coupling front 25.) Telex coupling rear 26.) Smoke generator 27.) Ejectors 28.) Video camera on Although these functions are combined between E-Loco and Steam loco I can't see how you can create 28 functions in 1 loco unless you have a special train pulled by a steam loco and pushed by an E-loco. John |
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TimR wrote:I find this interesting: " Analog operationWith LokPilot V4.0 it’s not only possible to limit the start and top speed of your loco in analog mode, you can even determine which of the functions should be active. Even load control is active. Therefore, the LokPilot V4.0 is ideal for locos, which are too fast with a conventional reverser relay. At last your locos crawl in analog mode as slowly as you’re used to with digital layouts" But then again, analog operator would tend to shy away from having to fit any decoder anyway... so who's the potential takers? Unless Marklin (who insist on putting decoders on all their loks) would buy this, but...er, unlikely to happen too after the "divorce". I would say that people who are active in MRR clubs or those who would visit a friend with an analogue layout. Maybe even someone has an analogue "nostalgic" layout but wants to use the same locos in digital as well. But since most clubs are running digital nowadays and most home layouts as well are digital, I guess it's only a small improvement that has been implemented in the decoder. It doesn't change the manufacturing price and has no disadvantages, so why not include this? |
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It seems like the mfx support has been dropped? The LokPilot 3.0 exists in a version called "M4", which seems to be the "mfx" with a different name. But there is no indicaton of a 4.0 M4. My guess is that since CS2 can handle DCC, there is not much demand for mfx decoders from 3rd party.
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Hello to the early buyers,
please be aware that the Lokpilot 4.0 is actually programmable only with the Lokprogrammer with the Software Version 4.0.0. But this software version cannot program the older decoders, for those you still need the Version 2.7.x.
The EcoS, CS1 reloaded and EcoS 2 cannot program this decoder yet through the graphical interface. A software update is needed but not available yet.
This is dued to the fact that in the V4.0 ESU changed the CV allocation respect to the older decoders.
The software (graphical interface) of the centrals need to be adapted
rgds
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supermoee wrote:Hello to the early buyers,
please be aware that the Lokpilot 4.0 is actually programmable only with the Lokprogrammer with the Software Version 4.0.0. But this software version cannot program the older decoders, for those you still need the Version 2.7.x.
The EcoS, CS1 reloaded and EcoS 2 cannot program this decoder yet through the graphical interface. A software update is needed but not available yet.
This is dued to the fact that in the V4.0 ESU changed the CV allocation respect to the older decoders.
The software (graphical interface) of the centrals need to be adapted
rgds
Stephan Hi Stephan, I assume you can still do the basic changes with a 6021, like change loco address, acceleration etc.? |
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RayPayas wrote:supermoee wrote:Hello to the early buyers,
please be aware that the Lokpilot 4.0 is actually programmable only with the Lokprogrammer with the Software Version 4.0.0. But this software version cannot program the older decoders, for those you still need the Version 2.7.x.
The EcoS, CS1 reloaded and EcoS 2 cannot program this decoder yet through the graphical interface. A software update is needed but not available yet.
This is dued to the fact that in the V4.0 ESU changed the CV allocation respect to the older decoders.
The software (graphical interface) of the centrals need to be adapted
rgds
Stephan Hi Stephan, I assume you can still do the basic changes with a 6021, like change loco address, acceleration etc.? Ray, it does support the motorola system. John |
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„Better is the enemy of good“ it is said in colloquial language for generations. We fully agree with this proverb and are proud to present to you the brand-new LokPilot V4.0 Decoder. This decoder supersedes from now on the „well and good“ LokPilot V3.0 Decoder, which has achieved an excellent reputation among model railroaders all around the world. The new LokPilot V4.0 is much „better“ in many respects based on the LokPilot family’s high standard performance.The LokPilot V4.0 Decoder will be offered in several varieties like its forerunner. It comes either as a fully-equipped multiprotocol decoder (DCC, Motorola® and Selectrix®) or as DCC version only. A further range of interface options enables you to find the appropriate decoder for your loco any time.
Operational modes
The LokPilot V4.0 supports, like its forerunners DCC, Motorola® and Selectrix®. It can also be used for DC and AC operation and recognises operational modes automatically „on-the-fly". As a matter of course there are up to 9999 addresses in DCC operation or 255 in Motorola® operation. The LokPilot V4.0 supports all common braking sections such as Zimo® HLU, Märklin® or Selectrix® diode braking sections. A new feature is the ABC braking mode. Introduced by Lenz®, it simplifies stoppage in front of the signal thanks to its asymmetrical DCC signal. The LokPilot V4.0 also fully supports the RailCom® standard and can be programmed with all current digital command stations.
Also new is the additional connection facility for an external „Power Pack". This optionally (coming in 2011) available energy store is able to energize the motor up to 2 seconds if the power supply is interrupted and makes you finally forget dirty tracks!
Motor management
From a LokPilot decoder, you rightly expect an excellent motor management. With the LokPilot V4.0, ESU introduces the once more improved fifth generation of load control. The standard frequency is adjusted adaptively to the speed with a basic frequency of 40 kHz. The result is an even better slow driving performance, ideal for older 3-pole or coreless motors. It’s also child’s play to adjust the regulation to the respective model. With this ESU sets a new standard. Nowhere else will you find better motor control. Promised!
Mechanics
Despite all its new functions, the new LokPilot V4.0 is 9% smaller than its forerunner and thus easier to install. Beside the known LokPilot versions, with 8-pin or 6-pin NEM interface as well as with a 21MTC connector, there is now a further version with a PluX12 plug (at the wire harness) which can be directly plugged into many of the new ROCO® locomotives.
Analog operation
With LokPilot V4.0 it’s not only possible to limit the start and top speed of your loco in analog mode, you can even determine which of the functions should be active. Even load control is active. Therefore, the LokPilot V4.0 is ideal for locos, which are too fast with a conventional reverser relay. At last your locos crawl in analog mode as slowly as you’re used to with digital layouts.
Functions
The LokPilot V4.0 decoder has 4 function outputs which achieve 250 mA load each. They are separately dimmable and can be allocated individually to different light functions such as flashing light, firebox flicker, strobe – and double strobe, Ditch Light etc. Beyond that, the 21MTC connector version has two logical outputs which can be made alive via the adapter board 51968. Of course, the decoder is able to control the automatic decoupling move and push time for Roco®, Krois® and Telex® couplers and also offers a high beam function as a new feature. The „LED mode“ ensures that the light effects are set correctly when using LEDs.
Programming
The LokPilot V4.0 supports all DCC programming modes including POM (Programming on the Main). All programming is done electronically; for Märklin® stations 6020, 6021, Mobile Station® and Central Station®. For these units the LokPilot V4.0 employs a time proven, easily acquired programming procedure. Programmed modifications during Motorola® operation are valid with DCC and Selectrix® operation and vice-versa. Programming configuration variables (CV’s) is especially simple for owners of our ECoS control station: all options are displayed in plain language on the large screen and can easily be edited – even during operation on the layout.
Accident prevention
The LokPilot V4.0 supports the indispensable wrongdirection bit for operation on Märklin® layouts, preventing locos leaving an analog section and entering a digital part of the layout, from instantly reversing direction and backing out again. After an interruption, the decoder remembers its last status and starts up again, as quickly as possible.
Peace of mind
The LokPilot V4.0 is overload and short-circuit protected, updatable and can be programmed comfortably from you command station or from your PC with the help of the ESU LokProgrammer. You are able to download brand-new software versions from our website as they become available. The software helps you to configure the decoder. That´s how comfort should be. With the LokPilot V4.0 decoder you do not only purchase a very good decoder but also benefit from ESU’s years of experience in producing innovative digital decoders. |
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RayPayas wrote:supermoee wrote:Hello to the early buyers,
please be aware that the Lokpilot 4.0 is actually programmable only with the Lokprogrammer with the Software Version 4.0.0. But this software version cannot program the older decoders, for those you still need the Version 2.7.x.
The EcoS, CS1 reloaded and EcoS 2 cannot program this decoder yet through the graphical interface. A software update is needed but not available yet.
This is dued to the fact that in the V4.0 ESU changed the CV allocation respect to the older decoders.
The software (graphical interface) of the centrals need to be adapted
I assume you can still do the basic changes with a 6021, like change loco address, acceleration etc.? You should be able to change the settings using the CV programming of ECoS, CS1 reloaded, and ECoS 2. It's only the user-friendly graphical interface that is not available. And there are houndreds of CVs that can be programmed ... Programming with a CS2 should also work - but the graphical interface will never(*) come ... (*) Never say never, but it's extremely unlikely. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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M4 was always been M4 (mfx), lokpilot V3 has been dropped and lokpilot V4 is the new one.
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There were two threads discussing the new Lokpilot v4.0. John (River6109) asked me to merge them, and with Mark's approval (the originator of the 2nd thread), I have done this.
So, this is why it may seem that some of the information and posts are duplicated.
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H0 wrote:RayPayas wrote:supermoee wrote:Hello to the early buyers,
please be aware that the Lokpilot 4.0 is actually programmable only with the Lokprogrammer with the Software Version 4.0.0. But this software version cannot program the older decoders, for those you still need the Version 2.7.x.
The EcoS, CS1 reloaded and EcoS 2 cannot program this decoder yet through the graphical interface. A software update is needed but not available yet.
This is dued to the fact that in the V4.0 ESU changed the CV allocation respect to the older decoders.
The software (graphical interface) of the centrals need to be adapted
I assume you can still do the basic changes with a 6021, like change loco address, acceleration etc.? You should be able to change the settings using the CV programming of ECoS, CS1 reloaded, and ECoS 2. It's only the user-friendly graphical interface that is not available. And there are houndreds of CVs that can be programmed ... Programming with a CS2 should also work - but the graphical interface will never(*) come ... (*) Never say never, but it's extremely unlikely. You can use a 6021 or Mobile Station (1) to change some values, but only in the range 0-79, so a few options are unavailable because the CV has a higher number or the desired setting is higher: * Max speed for analogue mode can't be set (CV128) * Mapping the function outputs to different F-buttons is unavailable. * Swiss light changeover (3 white front - 1 white rear) can't be set (CV298/314) A few more functions are only available with DCC programming, but it is quite possible to do the basic programming with older Märklin equipment. |
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river6109 wrote:M4 was always been M4 (mfx), lokpilot V3 has been dropped and lokpilot V4 is the new one.
John Yes - I have also understood that M4 is mfx, but my question is if the LokPilot 4.0 will be available as an M4 version. If not, the LokPilot 3.0 M4 (or mfx as it was named before) will be the last remaining option for easy programming with Mobile Station 1. I know there is a simple solution - to invest in a MS2, but anyway ... |
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kgsjoqvist wrote:You can use a 6021 or Mobile Station (1) to change some values, but only in the range 0-79, so a few options are unavailable because the CV has a higher number or the desired setting is higher:
* Max speed for analogue mode can't be set (CV128)
* Mapping the function outputs to different F-buttons is unavailable.
* Swiss light changeover (3 white front - 1 white rear) can't be set (CV298/314) With a CU 6021 you can program registers and values up to 255 (see pages 25/26 of the manual) - same as with V 3.0. The ESU "long mode" would allow CVs up to 799 - so maybe the ESU manual is outdated and all registers up to 511 are supported. While function mapping was available with v 3.0, it may no longer be available for CU 6021 users with v 4.0 (if the restriction given in the manual is correct). |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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H0 wrote:kgsjoqvist wrote:You can use a 6021 or Mobile Station (1) to change some values, but only in the range 0-79, so a few options are unavailable because the CV has a higher number or the desired setting is higher:
* Max speed for analogue mode can't be set (CV128)
* Mapping the function outputs to different F-buttons is unavailable.
* Swiss light changeover (3 white front - 1 white rear) can't be set (CV298/314) With a CU 6021 you can program registers and values up to 255 (see pages 25/26 of the manual) - same as with V 3.0. The ESU "long mode" would allow CVs up to 799 - so maybe the ESU manual is outdated and all registers up to 511 are supported. While function mapping was available with v 3.0, it may no longer be available for CU 6021 users with v 4.0 (if the restriction given in the manual is correct). I was wrong, obviously! Long mode is supported and all CV's can be programmed as desired with a 6021. With a Mobile Station it is not possible, however... |
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