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steventrain		#1 Posted : 06 February 2010 12:38:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		What do you have in your model railway collection, which is either rare or unique? If I have give some of my rares, I have a couple of rare things such as: 39618/9 BR61. 26536 Long Henry. 39013 BR01 150. 379xx BR03 Streamlined. 31859 3 set Croc.
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Ranjit		#2 Posted : 06 February 2010 14:50:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2003(UTC) Posts: 3,023 Location: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, INDIA		Nice, Steven! I would have liked the 31859 Croc set. Cheers, Ranjit
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rugauger		#3 Posted : 06 February 2010 19:52:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/12/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,205 Location: Swindon, Wiltshire		Nothing really rare or unique. I guess my 3077 Zeppelin and the 3028/4028 rail car set come closest.
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RayF		#4 Posted : 06 February 2010 20:35:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		My 33292 is probably the rarest loco in my collection. It doesn't appear in any catalogue.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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seatrains		#5 Posted : 06 February 2010 20:54:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 676 Location: Shoreline, WA		I'm love the vintage scene, so my ST 800, TT 800 and 30159 would be my most unique. All marklin heavy metal!!
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Frostie		#6 Posted : 06 February 2010 21:12:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		I would not classify anything that is not at least 5 years old as rare and unique.Here are some of my items that I think are old and unique. Kaiser Wilhelm set (1996) two complete sets. Old and beautiful King Ludwig Set Camel Car - two of these BR10 37081 (Blue) 37292 E91 1998 MHI Locomotive First C Sine Powered Locomotive/ Train Set 39710 It has the paperes and csine survey form 26751 Rhengold Set with Modellbahn Treff locomotive tender with Marklin instead of Rheingold. Trix / Marklin Wedding Set 28970 Marklin / Herps Construction Train Set Condom Container Car Sets Weathered Big Boy - all Insider order Form Big Boys Looney Tunes Locomotive customized with sound decoder programmed with looney tunes sounds S3/6 37186 - Blue with Gold Trim Hunting down the special little ones is what makes the difference.
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mj		#7 Posted : 06 February 2010 21:52:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 370 Location: Växjö		Hmm, what is rare and unique is hard to define.. Is it vintage, by means from the 30s to 60s, is it newer models that are produced in a strictly limited series, or is it things that have a high demand on ebay and similar sites or stores? For me it is my SK800 in perfect condition, and two cars produced for the 2005 modellbahntreff in 10 examples (signed by Paul Adams and the mayor of Göppingen and if I remember correctly, the cars is part of the pre-production of the 46976).
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Breitenfurt		#8 Posted : 06 February 2010 22:28:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2008(UTC) Posts: 874 Location: Scotland		I don't know how many were manufactured but I think that my rarest item is actually made up of two sets. They are Marklin 8869, 8870 and a Railex Bavarian B VI, Tristan. To date, I have not got a complete photo of the train but you can see a photo of an N scale version of train with an anachronistic S3/6 here: . One of my B VI's can be seen here: . Chris. Edited by moderator 10 January 2011 19:46:31(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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LionelMPC		#9 Posted : 07 February 2010 01:36:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 213 Location: Washington state, USA		I don't own anything very rare, but my DA800 BR 23 and one of my 4600 Gepackwagens both have the early wide-hood relex coupler, that as far as I know was only made during 1956, so that makes them a little unusual. Likely the rarest car I have, although it's probably not all that rare, is a 4046 24cm Silberlinge cab car, only made 1968-69. It was replaced in 1970 with the 4081, which I think is the same car except with an interior. -James
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sebastian		#10 Posted : 07 February 2010 03:54:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		I picked up today a quite rare set from my dealer. It is the 46753. It has two tank cars and a truck with a box trailer. The cars and the truck with the trailer have a butter color and have the "Storck Karamellen" label in black. One of the cars has a brakeman's cab. I have no pictures yet of the set so I apologize for not posting any. My dealer told me that it comes from the dealer exclusive program. Anyway, the set looks very nice. It was a One time only in 2008.
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Nightowl4933		#11 Posted : 07 February 2010 10:57:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 972 Location: North Wiltshire		If things don't pick up with M* everything will be become rare pretty soon!
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sebastian		#12 Posted : 07 February 2010 15:46:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: Ontario		Nightowl4933 wrote: If things don't pick up with M* everything will be become rare pretty soon![/quote You've got that right.
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agvera		#13 Posted : 07 February 2010 23:14:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 146 Location: Nordelta, Buenos Aires		Hi all The old 307 Kühlwagen with diagonal red print besides the "new" 4508.3 regards
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mj		#14 Posted : 07 February 2010 23:27:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 370 Location: Växjö		Nightowl4933 wrote: If things don't pick up with M* everything will be become rare pretty soon! I have to disagree on that point actually. Not everything will be rare, large production series will never be rare. Though, some items will be rarer and their value will surely increase in price.
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Oscar		#15 Posted : 08 February 2010 12:18:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Some of my pieces are easy to find, some are not so easy to find but with a little bit of patience you'll find them within 6 months or so. In terms of really rare stuff, only my 3027.4 BR44 with "fälsche Tenderaufschrift" fits the bill. It's in perfect condition and with original box.
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petestra		#16 Posted : 08 February 2010 16:21:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,862 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		Hi all! My 3012 from 1964 is like new. SNCF metal electric. I am glad that my parents taught me to take great care of my things, especially the Maerklin trains! 2x 4189 Italian 2nd class passenger cars. I understand from Kolls that they are rare. 1x 4177 Koeln Messe DB compartment car bought at the Cologne train show, Fall of 1987. 1x Cats on Tour passenger car for Cats Musical, also from 1987. Bought in Germany. 1x each of 4648, 4649 DB tankers Gasolin & Avia 1x Maerklin Museum car from visit to Goeppingen 1990. 1x Statue of Liberty car 1986. 1x Maerklin club USA car 1985. 1x48662 from 2000. FS flat car with marble block load from famous Carrara quarry in Italy where Michaelangelo got his marble. 1x 44176 Milka DB car, maybe not rare but I do love that Milka Chocolate! 1x 48803 SBB 2002, historic swiss freight 6x car set for Croc. 1x 39560 Swiss Crocodile , green, bought 2002. 1x 4400f Airlines of the World container car set. As a retired airline employee, I display these in my display case.
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hennabm		#17 Posted : 13 February 2010 18:50:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 2,073 Location: Edinburgh,		If the Koll pricing is anything to go by then the Swiss 2nd class carriage with sliding doors, M&B is my most rare /unique piece.
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jvuye		#18 Posted : 19 February 2010 08:32:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 2,883 Location: South Western France		Hello all, I have a few rare and interesting pieces in my "collection". I would say that some have a bigger place in my heart than others...but all are fully functionnal! My 10 favourites (in order of preference) and why.. 1)a RSM 800 electric with its 329/X coaches because it was my first M* train, received on X-mas of 1951 2)a TP 800, because it is a wonderful memory of my best friend who gave it to me just before he died prematurely. 3)a 3150 Northlander bought new from my M* dealer friend, never had expected it would be such a coveted item! 4)a 1949 SK 800 and its eight 35x coaches;: it represented the "impossible dream" when I was seven! 5)a 1952 MS 800 and its twelve 346/X coaches, because it looks so good and runs beautifully. 6)a 1947 CCS 800 bought on a lay-away basis from a friend in high school with my lunch money! 7)a 3025 bought used (very much so...) but now as good as new after a thorough restoration 8)a 1950 HR 800 because it was so hard to find one and to restore it 9)a HS 800 for the same reason 10)a RE 800 because I always wanted one and finally inherited it as a "basket case" of parts in 1984, which I duly reassembled, restored and which is now a top performer, pulling up to twelve (!) 348/x series coaches on my occasional 3600 M-track series Tischbahn! Seems that my "scale of preference" was all build in my head in the early 1950's when I was incessantly turning the pages of Märklin catalogs, to the point that the pages fell off! If anyone would like to see a detailed picture of any of these, let me know. Cheers
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Loadmaster		#19 Posted : 19 February 2010 18:18:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		RayPayas wrote: My 33292 is probably the rarest loco in my collection. It doesn't appear in any catalogue. Ray, Is that loco an articulated 3 unit item? I don't have any rare items any more because my parents sold / gave away my trains when I was in college in the 1970's, I guess they thought I had outgrown the trains, bummer. My father had purchased Marklin items since 1946 and I inherited them when I came along. I don't know why he parted with them. Robert
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RayF		#20 Posted : 19 February 2010 18:24:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Loadmaster wrote: RayPayas wrote: My 33292 is probably the rarest loco in my collection. It doesn't appear in any catalogue. Ray, Is that loco an articulated 3 unit item? Robert Yes Robert, it is a Bavarian EG5, later renamed E91 by the DRG, and later DB Br191. Marklin have made several versions in green, and also one variation in DRG grey, but the 33292/37292 is the only one in these colours.
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kimballthurlow		#21 Posted : 20 February 2010 00:16:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,768 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hi Jaques, That is a really impressive collection. So much more for the fact that it represents the quintessential Märklin "tinplate era" HO stuff. Maybe you could do a gradual release of the item photos in a topic, over a few months. And make a little story about each one. regards Kimball
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Loadmaster		#22 Posted : 20 February 2010 00:42:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		RayPayas wrote: Loadmaster wrote: RayPayas wrote: My 33292 is probably the rarest loco in my collection. It doesn't appear in any catalogue. Ray, Is that loco an articulated 3 unit item? Robert Yes Robert, it is a Bavarian EG5, later renamed E91 by the DRG, and later DB Br191. Marklin have made several versions in green, and also one variation in DRG grey, but the 33292/37292 is the only one in these colours. Ray, Can you tell me how old it is, when made and when you purchased it. If I had known there were Marklin fans on the Rock, I would have looked you up instead of the monkeys. I would fly into Rota, Spain occasionally when I was still in the US Air Force. Thank you, Robert
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RayF		#23 Posted : 20 February 2010 01:36:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		It's a 1998 MHI locomotive. I actually found it about three years ago in a little model shop in Southampton, in the UK, when visiting my son who was in university there. Hope you enjoyed the monkeys!
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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river6109		#24 Posted : 20 February 2010 05:05:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,879 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Robert wrote: If I had known there were Marklin fans on the Rock, I would have looked you up instead of the monkeys. Do you mean: I scratch your back and you scratch mine ? John
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Loadmaster		#25 Posted : 20 February 2010 05:16:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		John, There are monkeys on the Rock and the tourists feed them. Of curse I didn't but they are certainly persistent. And no they don't have trains either, LOL.. Robert
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RayF		#26 Posted : 20 February 2010 11:19:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		The monkeys are a bit of a pain, actually. Their population has exploded in the last 20 years. For years there were around 40-50, then came a tourist boom, and there are now several hundred. They breed more because they know the tourists will feed them. Occasionally they will come down off the nature reserve and climb into houses through open windows. They take all your food, trash your home, and even leave their droppings all over your floor. One elderly gentleman was arrested for shooting one of the monkeys with an air rifle, after he lost his patience with the constant attempts by the monkeys to get into his home. The monkeys are wild, but they are protected by law, so there's not much you can do about it.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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5HorizonsRR		#27 Posted : 20 February 2010 21:18:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,994 Location: CA, USA		Interesting topic. I have a few: 3356 (may be 3056 I can't remember) Swiss Croc in Brown, a special paint sold only through the dealer Schweiger who had marklin paint him a run 4618 in pastel green/blue 37343 TEE RE 4/4II Those are just a few. Interestingly while I love them, they aren't my favorites- proof that rare doesn't always make you happiest when collecting! I actually had a lot of the rare stuff mentioned on this list, and a few others. I sold them to buy other goodies like my Gottardo and 26730 croc set!
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jvuye		#28 Posted : 21 February 2010 15:54:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 2,883 Location: South Western France		kimballthurlow wrote: Hi Jaques, That is a really impressive collection. So much more for the fact that it represents the quintessential Märklin "tinplate era" HO stuff. Maybe you could do a gradual release of the item photos in a topic, over a few months. And make a little story about each one. regards Kimball Hi Kimball and all. That sounds like a good idea. I will start taking pictures, with proper setting/background. and create a new topic: "Selections from my Märklin Tin plate era collection" Finishing first with a few domestic chores and will get to it. Cheers Jacques
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Frostie		#29 Posted : 22 February 2010 00:15:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		RayPayas wrote: My 33292 is probably the rarest loco in my collection. It doesn't appear in any catalogue. I found the 37292 (digital version) of yours, these are the every two years MHI dealer locomotives. This one is from 1998. I also have 33292 which I bought to get the display base. I then started collecting the series. I have back to 1996 (Pumpkin BR 52) and am looking for 1994 and 1992 (1992 was first year ?). The series is distinguished by having a wooden base with a K track, and a MHI Dealer Meeting metal label on the base. Very limited, the 1998 version is the best of the series to me, although the 2008 V 300 is very nice.
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mrmarklin		#30 Posted : 26 February 2010 06:43:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 944 Location: Burney, CA		My rarest is probably #1506 But my favorite rare one is # 3173 BR 120 April Fools Lok painted blue. Much to the chagrin of certain of my friends, I have digitized it with a MFX sound chip.
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Bayer		#31 Posted : 26 February 2010 20:26:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/06/2008(UTC) Posts: 176 Location: Helsingør, Denmark		My rarest pieces would be my RS 790/3 starterset, my RE 800.2, my SK 800.2 VK and maybe my two passanger coaches for a blue ST 800. Regards, Thor
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Loadmaster		#32 Posted : 09 March 2010 02:45:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		Frostie, What is a MHI dealer? Do they sell just limited edition Marlin items? Robert
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Loadmaster		#33 Posted : 12 March 2010 03:59:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		Frostie and Ray, I was surfing that popular auction site and came upon a 37293. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/e...ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT What is the difference between the Green and Brown coloring, different years? Of course it is not Swiss. Robert
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foumaro		#34 Posted : 12 March 2010 11:40:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		It is the MARKLIN-HERPA 150750 set.The set contains the BR 220 with five cars loaded with ten maybach cars.
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Gertrainfreak		#35 Posted : 15 March 2010 17:43:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1 Location: Singapore		It is my Br41 locomotive and Ae 3/6 locomotive!! They are very rare nowadays I am new to the forum everyone
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Breitenfurt		#36 Posted : 15 March 2010 23:10:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2008(UTC) Posts: 874 Location: Scotland		Hi Gertrainfreak, welcome to the forum. I don't know if Insider items are classified a rare. If they are then I have a few with my most recent being the 88105, 05 001 2'C2' h3 2'3T37 (no photo yet). Moving away from Marklin, I do have an unusual Railex item. As I said before, I have no idea how large their production run is but there wont be many of this. All the best, Chris. Edited by user 16 February 2011 09:58:59(UTC)  | Reason: Correct error in image file name and typo
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Breitenfurt		#37 Posted : 15 March 2010 23:24:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2008(UTC) Posts: 874 Location: Scotland		Hi Gertrainfreak, welcome to the forum. I don't know if Insider items are classified a rare. If they are then I have a few with my most recent being the 88105, 05 001 2'C2' h3 2'3T37 (no photo yet). Moving away from Marklin, I do have an unusual Railex item. As I said before, I have no idea how large their production run is but there wont be many of this. It is a sleeper impregnation wagon. All the best, Chris.
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steventrain		#38 Posted : 21 March 2010 11:47:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Hi Gertrainfreak, Welcome to the forum.
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Jeremy Palmer		#39 Posted : 25 April 2010 05:09:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Hello Everyone, Not sure what to gauge "rare" by but here goes. 31859 Croc set. (1859 sets I suppose)? 31860 Croc set. (500 sets)? 28832 "Snow weathered" Austrian Snowplough. (234 sets made). Not sure about value here, I am having it digitalized by RJF but we are keeping and mothballing the original parts. 28973 "Snow weathered" Glaskasten. 300 sets? 37172.001 Weathered Belgian Condenser Lok. not sure # made. 84416 Swiss Astrological set. The entire series of "Swiss" Locs WITH the matching wagon that each one had, including the music box. Please feel free to correct me on the numbers made. Jeremy.
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RayF		#40 Posted : 25 April 2010 12:18:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Loadmaster wrote: Frostie and Ray, I was surfing that popular auction site and came upon a 37293. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/e...ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT What is the difference between the Green and Brown coloring, different years? Of course it is not Swiss. Robert Robert, I apologise for not having seen this question. I know it's a month late, but I'll answer now if that's OK! The E91 was originally produced in the Bavarian brown. Although already part of the DRG, the Bavarian locos were still painted for a while in the brown colour. Afterwards, especially during the war, these locos were painted grey, as were most goods locos. After the war, they received the standard green colour.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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RayF		#41 Posted : 25 April 2010 12:21:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Loadmaster wrote: Frostie, What is a MHI dealer? Do they sell just limited edition Marlin items? Robert MHI is an initiative supported by a number of dealers who carry the full range of Marklin and satisfy some other conditions of service. Marklin makes special models, usually is a different livery, which are only sold in limited numbers through the MHI dealers.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Frostie		#42 Posted : 25 April 2010 19:32:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		Loadmaster wrote: Frostie, What is a MHI dealer? Do they sell just limited edition Marlin items? Robert Oops sorry to be so tardy with my reply. MHI dealer meet locomotives are issued every two years at the MHI meet in October . They are not normally listed in the catalog, come with a wooden display case, and are normally limited to two per dealer ( I think). This occurs in even numbered years. I have them all back to 1996, and have been looking for 1992 and 1994. MHi locomotives and car sets are not necessarily rare, there are still a lot produced. In my opinion to be considered rare, there must be limited in production. Anything more than 3,000 total produced is too many to be rare. Rare items include 31859, toy show order locomotives, mhi dealer meet locomotives etc. I am peeved with Marklin apparently throwing this out the window with the 20 year MHi locomotive probably going to be produced in large numbers. Apparently!
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jeehring		#43 Posted : 25 April 2010 21:36:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		I only have a few MHI models , too I got a E91 era 2 with brown livery (don't remember which was the year of delivery ...) A streamlined BR03.10 in light grey photo livery (delivered around 2004 - Recently I've seen a dealer who has still 1 or 2 in stock) I got few MHI cars and coaches as well... Due to current constraints of production I don't think that the 20 years MHI steamer will be produced in a large number of exemplaries...( I don't have absolute proof, I'll try to know - IMO not more than 2000 exemplaries)
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jeehring		#44 Posted : 25 April 2010 22:04:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		RayPayas wrote: It's a 1998 MHI locomotive. I actually found it about three years ago in a little model shop in Southampton, in the UK, when visiting my son who was in university there. Hope you enjoyed the monkeys! I didn't read your post yet : My MHI E 91 is the same in digital (37xxx). I think it's my rarest model too. Here on the forum we are already 3 ( digital or Dlta)
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H0		#45 Posted : 25 April 2010 22:06:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,466 Location: DE-NW		RayPayas wrote: Marklin makes special models, usually is a different livery, which are only sold in limited numbers through the MHI dealers. Actually MHI orders these models and Märklin produces as many as MHI orders (I wouldn't call that limited series). The drawback: MHI dealers must order the complete package (all MHI models of a year) without even knowing what they order.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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RayF		#46 Posted : 25 April 2010 22:49:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		H0 wrote: RayPayas wrote: Marklin makes special models, usually is a different livery, which are only sold in limited numbers through the MHI dealers. Actually MHI orders these models and Märklin produces as many as MHI orders (I wouldn't call that limited series). The drawback: MHI dealers must order the complete package (all MHI models of a year) without even knowing what they order. Tom, I would call that a limited issue.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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H0		#47 Posted : 25 April 2010 23:26:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,466 Location: DE-NW		RayPayas wrote: Tom, I would call that a limited issue. Then all "one-time series" and all Insider models would be limited - as Märklin only manufacture according to the orders they get. We could make a poll to find whether or not these can be called "limited". But surely these ain't rare items.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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RayF		#48 Posted : 26 April 2010 00:20:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		H0 wrote: RayPayas wrote: Tom, I would call that a limited issue. Then all "one-time series" and all Insider models would be limited - as Märklin only manufacture according to the orders they get. ... Isn't that the definition of a limited issue? What is more limited than a "one-time series"? I distinguish between a production item, which appears in a catalogue for at least a few years until withdrawn, and a limited edition which is limited by either the time it is produced, as in one production run only, or in more extreme examples limited to a certain number of models, for example 1000. As to the definition of "rare", I guess everything is relative. I often see many examples of "rare" locomotives available on ebay, which seems a bit of a contradiction...
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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RayF		#49 Posted : 26 April 2010 00:27:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I quote Marklin's explanation of MHI from their 2010 new items catalogue:
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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H0		#50 Posted : 26 April 2010 02:44:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,466 Location: DE-NW		RayPayas wrote: Isn't that the definition of a limited issue? What is more limited than a "one-time series"? The new 103/E 03 is limited to 1750 copies. I call that limited. The Ford freight car kit was limited to members of the insider club. Rumours say there are 60,000 members (but not all take the H0 model). I wouldn't call that limited. With one-time series, only the time frame for orders is limited - the number of copies is not limited. It's not rare and the price is not likely to go rocketing in a few years. Just look at all those "one-time series" BR 101 advertising locos - and how cheap most of them are on eBay ...
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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