Thank you all. I appreciate your advice.
I have written Marklin to ask if I can have only the MS2, and not the 60113 box. I have said I do not think I need it as I will plug it directly into my CS2
I will let you know the outcome.
As always the members of this forum are fantastic!!

Hi all,
Does any body know if MS2 will have access to address's up to 255 as apposed to 80 on MS1?

Cheers,
Brian.
Just answered my own Question. Found this link on another forum to download user manual.
http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/60653_betrieb.pdf

Here is a summary of features.
Mobile Station
Mobile Station Features:
• Digital protocols: Märklin Motorola, mfx, DCC according to NMRA/NEM standards
• Running locomotives ( Motorola addresses 1 - 255, DCC 1 - 9999)
• Running mfx locomotives (automatic registration)
• Programming locomotives
• Locomotive list for 10 active locomotives (direct selection) + 1 locomotive from a
locomotive card
• Locomotive data base with 1,000 locomotives
• Keyboard (addresses 1 - 320)

Regards,
Brian.

Hi Peter,
Thanks for that.
I will note that FrankF had posted the link for the manual originally, sorry FrankF for missing that.
The MS2 does looks like a substantial improvement and worth while upgrade over the MS1 and for the budget conscious.

Cheers,
Brian.

The MS2 is now delivery from Marklin.

Should be this week, The MS2 starter set 29791 on ebay today.

Hello
Can someone please tell me can you connect ms 60653 with c track 24088 and with transformator 60VA from startpackage 29151
Thank You

thanks, one more
what is with transformator?
Can i plug in 60113 or not?

See MS2 on you tube -

I hope to get mine next week.

Thanks for the video show!
I have decides,that it will not been any at all with MS2.

The MS2 is starting to appear on ebay, from broken up starter sets.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MARK...hnen?hash=item439ea4de15

Hi Stu,

Can you please explain how (short of Voice Recognition) that you envision someone (human) managing a larger number of locos.



I could not disagree more. I think the LokCard is a most practical solution to your complaint and for anyone else who wants a quick way of specifically calling up a Loco without having to push buttons, rotate knobs and visually focus on a small screen.

Does it work with the 60052 transformer and cable?

Yes 11 Locos can be managed - when power is on. The 11th slot will loose its information after power off

The LocoCard will load into the next available slot but will overwrite the 11th slot if all slots have been allocated.

Exception: If the address of the Loco defined by the LocoCard conflicts with one already registered (within the same MS2 - no check is done for the CS2 or other MSs) a warning prompt is given.

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Hi Stu, I have no problem with what you are saying - you are simply quoting the facts.

Your situation, more than 10 locos - not all on the track at a given time, is not uncommon.
What I have also been struggling with (from MS1 days on - if not the Delta control and 6022/6023) is how an entry level controller (of any vendor) could be made more user friendly and ergonomic in its ability to select from a large menu of option - say greater than 10.

Sure one valid option is to directly dial in the address - the problem here, as it always has been, is that remembering numbers is a distraction when we would prefer to remember a loco/train name or its image. (The usual Computer v Human dilema)

Personally I think the LocoCard is quite an elegant solution, even on the CS2 which CAN cope with 65000+ entries. For the CS2, without the LocoCard, you need to perform a minimum of 3 operations to select different loco - 4+ if you have more than 30 entries in your roster. And all the time looking at the screen.
With LocoCard it is possible to specifically and quickly call up the required loco - even if it is not already in the roster. Sure some physical space and discipline is needed to store the cards in a usable maner but I put it to you that this is more in keeping with runing a railway rather than running a computer.

Yes I do expect one, and only one, loco per card for its specific simplicity and I am encoraged that new items are shipping with one included (showing an appropriate picture). I made a predition a couple of years back that Marklin would (should) do just this. My timing was off when I expected this to happen with the 2009 new items but as we know, events overtook Marklin.

I can see your idea of a mass "roster" recorded on a removalable storage device being of use to the way some modellers like to run different themes at different times, however at this stage I would still opt for the credit-card form-factor as an easier media to handle.

As to your reference to "... when I convert another loco", you have another choice. To choose an mFX decoder. While Deleting a loco position from 1-10 is desirable in order to reserve a permanent placeholder in the 60653's roster the 60653(MS2) will overwrite position 11 when it detects and re-registers the loco on the track. (This is an improvement on the MS1 but needs to be managed)
As a closing comment - even with mFX self registration it takes 10-15 seconds, using a pre-prepared LocoCard take 1.

p.s. re the stacking of LocoCards - There is a market out there for some entrepreneur to develop a product

I'm on a bit of a budget and M's MFX decoders are very expensive, 3 times the cost of the 60760 conversion kits I'm using.

I have sucessfully test the MS2 to control the 7286 turntable with 7687 digital vis CS2.

I know exactly what you mean,Lutz!

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Hi Guys,

This is my first post, my layout is only now getting to a point where can count as being operational.

I have run an MS1 and was very happy with it, I now have the MS2 and experiencing a few problems.

1. I have lost some functions on my ALCO PA 1 from the 29575 set
2. It does not detect the MFX decoder in the ALCO

Any ideas, and will it not recognize any other MFX Loco's I am going to buy in the future?

Other than that, all is great.

Hi Jeehring, I bought the 29576 set and it was certainly an MFX Loco (I Checked on the Marklin web Data Base).

The function I lost on the MS2 is the Cab Radio Chatter.

As for the MS2 not recognising the Loco, I fixed that problem with help from another post.

"marklin-users.net forum » General topics » Digital » MFX loco fails to Register with CS"

It seems that the MS2 does the same.

Thanks

I wonder one thing:How many of you does now own Marklins new MS2...?