The locomotives come with normal couplings as well as with a fixed bar, so they can be run either as two coupled locomotives or as a double consist. Both loks have their decoders set to the same number, so when you call them up, they respond as a single unit. It is possible to reprogram each lok so that they can be operated on their own. I presume that each set has been tested during production to ensure that the max speed, acceleration and deceleration are matched as closely as possible.
If you wish to operate two Hag loks as a Re 10/10, it should not be too difficult. All you have to do is to synch the digital IDs for both loks and adjust the acceleration, deceleration and max speed so that the loks work in tandem. Hag's Re 10/10 set has one advantage, that the two loks can be controlled from the same slider via a cable connecting the two loks. For the Maerklin set, the announced Roco set or any combination of individual loks, the two slider set up may be problematic when entering a signal stop zone or other section w/o power.
I guess that it would be possible to run a wire from one lok to the other using Viessmann's power conducting close coupler or by adapting Maerklin's own one for the loks.
The other option may be to run the Re 4/4II with the slider at the rear and the Re 6/6 with the slider at the front, leaving a minimal distance between the two.

Prototypically, some Re 4/4II are assigned to the Cargo division, while others are assigned for Passenger operations. The road number of your Hag lok may be that of a lok assigned to the passenger division. Prior to 2002, it was possible to see a wider selection of Re 4/4II in combo with Re 6/6. Of the Maerklin loks, 34/3744, 34 /37344, 37343 and 37356 are passenger loks. 34/37341, 37342, 34345 and the loks from the 26534 and 29859 Sets are currently Cargo loks. Of the Cargo Loks (37345, 29841), the loks are Cargo loks, but both have from time to time been leased to the Passenger division for use between Zuerich and Lindau on the run to Munich.

Maybe one of the members has the current list of the cargo and passenger assignments. I had it on my old PC but could not remember the website.

Regards

Mike C

I think the Stummi review of 37320 mentioned that this is not the case..
Further adjustments to the settings parameters are necessary to ensure both the Re4/4 II and Re6/6 run in synch.

After listening to all the conversations about this set, I guess I need to exercise my credit card for the purchase of the set.

Robert

Hi Mike,

In reply to your question on a comparison between a Märklin Re 6/6 and a HAG Re 6/6, I've shot a couple of pictures for you.

I received my 37320 set yesterday and must say I'm very pleased with Märklins long awaited version of the Re 6/6.

Both locomotives of the 37320 set have their own digital address, 44 and 62 respectively, or alternatively log-in individually via mfx with the appropriate mfx equipment. As has been mentioned before by other members the locomotives are designed to be operated together. If problems arise, it is suggested in the product booklet that the Vmax and Vmin of one of the locomotives is adjusted to the behavior of the other locomotive.


Left Märklin Re 6/6; Right HAG Re 6/6


HAG Re 6/6 Rapperswil


Märklin Re 6/6


Roof layout, note Märklins prototypically "correct" orange wiring


edit:18-05-2010: added pictures of details of the two locos



HAG Re 6/6



Märklin Re 6/6



Märklin Re 6/6



HAG Re 6/6



HAG Re 6/6 coat of arms position



Märklin Re 6/6 coat of arms position



Märklin middle bogie construction



Märklin Re 6/6 cab I



I realize that the pictures aren't of top quality but I hope you can get an idea of the differences between the two brands.

Edited by user 18 May 2010 21:38:42(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hi Guus. Thanks for the pics. Nice to see you again, sorry no email contact for a while but soon I can find some time I hope.

Cheers!

Thanks for the pics, Guus..

Gotta say, I think the Marklin version is still the best looking of the bunch... (might be just so used to the common Marklinism )

Wife finally given the green light to order a 37321...

37320 arrive mine today - too heavy set, Photo later.

Here is the picture.

http://steventrain.fpic.co.uk/p63735586.html

@pserup,

I don't foresee another green Re 6/6 in the near future. I think that it is more likely that we will see a Re 6/6 in red, either with round or square headlights, possibly as early as a Summer or Fall New Item and most certainly by next year.
It was interesting to note that neither the Re 6/6 nor the Re 620 (Cargo) were released as Trix models this year, so I would expect to see at least one of these as a Trix Summer or Fall item, much in the same way as the RABe EC was announced last year.
A green Re 6/6, probably with rectangular headlights will likely be the next model in that colour.
If you are interested in a Re 6/6 in green, you may wish to go for the current model. I have seen the Re 4/4IIs being listed on eBay for up to 179 EUR and with the white LEDs, it may be a better seller than some of the earlier models.
I wonder whether Maerklin will release other Re 10/10 Sets in the future?

Regards

Mike C

Your question is a valid one.
I am concerned with the fact that despite being a late arrival in the market with Re6/6 (and its price); Marklin simply do not deliver it with the best available package that are available to them.

A glass half full?
Even a 37321 is about the same price as a 39235 (a steamer of, arguably more expensive looking design and SDS propulsion).

Undoubtedly, 37320/37321 will be a sales success with Marklin customers, at least for now, as the 3-rail AC market is quite entrenched somewhat - we tend to favor Marklin alternatives, although I recognize a growing number of buyers favor a pick-and-match to replace some Marklin OEM stuff with that of other brands.

But the real test will be the reception of the Trix DC version - which I seriously doubt will be a runaway success.

I have test the 37320 RE6/6 front bogie have few derailment on 1st radius 24130 curved.

No problem on 2nd radius onwards, Turnouts etc. I think the front and rear bogie very hard tight on 1st radius curved.

I am surprised that you have any problems with the front bogie, as it is likely the same bogie as the one used on the proven Re 4/4II. Is it possible that the cable for the slider is somehow interfering with the rotation inside the chassis? Have you had the same problem when the lok is reversed and driven through the switch motor bogie forward?

Regards

Mike C

Review of 37320 and pictures now on Cave forum.

I just received this set yesterday. Very nice. I do wonder why they didn't include any sounds, it would have been a great feature.

One odd effect, my CS2 60214 with the latest update would not allow the MFX locos to be registered individually, I had to put both engines on the track before the CS2 would recognize their existence. The manuals say that the locos have two different adresses 44 and 62. So in essence I could never run this set apart, right? I find this very strange. I am curious if this is a CS2 feature I missed. What I also found strange is that I can't see the decoder settings at all. The pair of engines run fine and are perfectly synced - but I doubt I would run them together all of the time.

Edited by user 17 March 2010 21:44:52(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

@7gauges,

the Re 6/6 is equipped with sound module and speakers, as Guus stated. The Re 4/4II is the same model as the 34/3734(X) series. No sound module has ever been offered on a Re 4/4II as the circuit board and metal frame were not developed with enough space to permit the installation of Maerklin's sound module. It is possible that some future modification to the model might permit this.
I don't have the CS2, let alone a CS. I am still using my trusty old 6021. I do know that the CS2 is supposed to allow for consisting, so you can link two decoder addresses together so that two loks can be operated as a MU. Previously, the decoders had to be set to the same address, which is how Hag's Re 10/10 Set is delivered. Changing the Lok Address is easy, even with a 6021.
If you want to alter the CV settings, make sure that you have only one of the loks on the track at the time.
I am waiting for my Set and will do some tests when it gets here. I am looking forward to operating the Re 6/6 as a solo lok with one of my DB, FS or SBB Schnellzug/IC trains. I think that it will only run infrequently as a Re 10/10 on my layout.

Regards

Mike C

Both locos register as expected with my MS1, both individually with their assigned name. I don't own a CS yet, but what I do know from my dealer's CS is that it sometimes takes a considerable amount of time for a new locomotive to register properly (last time I checked a new loco more than 2 minutes). I presume you've also read the remark in the instructions about multiple unit operation.

Interesting problem, please let us know what you've found out.

Hi..
With MFX controller (CS/MS/CS2/ECoS etc); each individual MFX lok would automatically be assigned an address by the controller so there is no possibility of address conflict.

In the case of 37320, even if both the 6/6 and 4/4 II got assigned the same address from the factory, each would be assigned an individual address, so there is no way that they can be registered as a consist from the word go.

In FX setting (or ordinary Lokpilot) I can see the sense why Roco or Hag would assigned them the same address, but with MFX it is irrelevant due to controller-decoder relationship.

Setting up consist have to be done manually in MFX. Both still kept their individual address; but the consist basically called up both address at the same time. If you call up the consist, both lok would respond...

Ok, so didn't really explain the problem other than it is indeed strange how both loks registered as 4/4.

I think you should check the section in the CS2 instructions dealing with consisting. It is possible that the Set was delivered so that the CS2 would recognize the two as a consist. That would perhaps explain why both were showing in normal mode as the same lok. If I am correct, you can disable the consisting feature and the loks should then show up as individual loks, each with their own tag and lok id address.

Regards

Mike C

Have a look at large picture on ebay (MS-Toys).

http://cgi.ebay.de/MS-TO...hnen?hash=item53e05a0076

looking at the first photo ,both look great, I like the Marklin RE 6/6, once again because the global appearance is a little less toyish and looks more real, also how they deal with the glass of front lights is a good point : more realistic.

Edited by user 24 March 2010 14:44:24(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

on the picture the lights are swiched off.
I'm talking about the external appearance: the glass of lights. Into model-making it always has been a hard subject : how to make them more realistic.( model makers could confirm, I think...! ) The glass of lights is one of the reasons why many many MRR models look toyish (also car models, etc....)...
I like the way they did on Marklin RE 6/6 (on the photo above: IMO better than on Hag model)
About this particular subject, generally Marklins are good, they are above average by comparison with other industrial manufacturers.

IMHO those kind of details - skillness, know how, painting - are more important than things like : exact lenght at scale, 1 cm missing or 1 cm over, etc, etc...

If you take some models from MicroMetakit you will see that lights are even not functionnal !( expensive models , 2500/3000 E for 1 model !). The reason is : Micro metakit considers that it is not possible to make realistic appearance with miniature Bulbs or LED...they use some special material: the result is astonishing ! (but not functional )

Edited by user 24 March 2010 14:46:49(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Can't confirm any of this - Re 6/6 weight is 679g, Re 4/4 weight is 531g (measured on different scales with +-1g Tol.)

PS: An excellent product review has been published by the Modelleisenbahner magazine; they too confirm the very good running performance in a MT; also easy to adjust.

But knowingly quite some bs was and still is published by people who never had these models in their hands.

BTW: Auto-registration of both locos with a CS-II works seamless and very quick (as usual), regardless whether they're placed onto the track simultaneous or individually; there is also no predefiniton of a MT.

Your advertising of the quality of Marklin's flawless engineering and technical excellence would have been much more successful and productive had you not always taken the opportunity to take a swipe at other member's opinion in 99% of the posts that you make.

Steventrain, excellent information, excellent pictures, nice layout, Thank you..