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nevw		#1 Posted : 01 January 2010 02:01:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		can any-one tell me what Lilliput Coaches are like? Do they have Interiors and can you easily fit Lighting and passengers. Looking at a set of CIWL cars. The Lilliput numbers are 261, 265, 266 and 267. Can AC Wheels be fitted etc The 267 is a dinning car and the others are sleeping cars. Thanks, Nev
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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tekin65		#2 Posted : 01 January 2010 08:37:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />can any-one tell me what Lilliput Coaches are like? Do they have Interiors and can you easily fit Lighting and passengers. Nev hi, I have only one set of Liliput coaches: the Goering set. It is extremely difficult to fit lighting in those, but I surely don't know about others. You can change the wheels. But a word of caution here: if the ones you're talking about are 30 cm. coaches, they will derail on R1 curves; there's nothing you can do. I've added extra weight on mine this helps a lot for smoother running. They're ok on R2 curves. Cem.
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nevw		#3 Posted : 01 January 2010 08:48:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw <br />can any-one tell me what Lilliput Coaches are like? Do they have Interiors and can you easily fit Lighting and passengers. Nev hi, I have only one set of Liliput coaches: the Goering set. It is extremely difficult to fit lighting in those, but I surely don't know about others. You can change the wheels. But a word of caution here: if the ones you're talking about are 30 cm. coaches, they will derail on R1 curves; there's nothing you can do. I've added extra weight on mine this helps a lot for smoother running. They're ok on R2 curves. Cem. Cem , thanks, Not sure of the length a the numbers are old series numbers and so far I cannot find any information. NN
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Unholz		#4 Posted : 01 January 2010 08:50:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,447 Location: Switzerland		Nev, the coaches with those numbers are very old and were produced by Liliput in Austria in the 1960's. They are nice to look at and show a fine level of detail in relation to their age, but you can't really compare them with current models from Liliput-Bachmann or other manufacturers. You probably wouldn't have to exchange the axles because the Liliput DC wheel flanges in those days were almost as high as modern AC wheelsets. Oh, and no: these are not 30 cm, they are quite short and can easily be used on any Marklin track.
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nevw		#5 Posted : 01 January 2010 08:54:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Thanks Stefan, DO they have interiors and can lights be fitted?? is the length about 27cm? Thanks nev
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Unholz		#6 Posted : 01 January 2010 08:56:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,447 Location: Switzerland		Nev, I have a couple of these coaches somewhere in my collection - but in a deep and dark location. I'll try to dig one out later today and will report.
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nevw		#7 Posted : 01 January 2010 09:00:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Unholz <br />Nev, I have a couple of these coaches somewhere in my collection - but in a deep and dark location. I'll try to dig one out later today and will report. Much thanks. NN
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Unholz		#8 Posted : 01 January 2010 09:20:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,447 Location: Switzerland		Leafing through an old Liliput catalog is quicker than hunting for the coaches: Length over buffers is 228 mm, interiors are fitted, and removable roofs should enable some kind of lighting.
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nevw		#9 Posted : 01 January 2010 09:39:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Unholz <br />Leafing through an old Liliput catalog is quicker than hunting for the coaches: Length over buffers is 228 mm, interiors are fitted, and removable roofs should enable some kind of lighting. Stefan, I will get them then. TA. Nev
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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nevw		#10 Posted : 01 January 2010 09:42:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Sorry Stefan, If I wanted to where would I get AC Wheels?? N
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Unholz		#11 Posted : 01 January 2010 12:47:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,447 Location: Switzerland		Nev, I used to equip some of my Liliput Austria stock with the standard AC axles (old part no. 40196, wheel diameter 11 mm) from Roco. But the newer Liliput-Bachmann AC wheelsets no. L39330 or L39334 (this one with spoked wheels) should also fit nicely. It's a pretty simple procedure. See here for instance: http://cgi.ebay.ch/20-St...hnen?hash=item53de5fffd5
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nevw		#12 Posted : 02 January 2010 01:40:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Stefan, thanks again for your help. Nev
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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nevw		#13 Posted : 02 January 2010 02:58:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Got them. Will not see them for about a month as airmail was almost the cost of the carriages. Stefan thanks for the help. NN
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mike c		#14 Posted : 02 January 2010 04:13:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,303 Location: Montreal, QC		Nev, there is a man named Herr Arndt who runs a hobby shop in Hof (Germany) who has a large selection of Liliput parts. the store is hofer-lokschuppen.de or lokomobile.de. The Liliput parts are listed under Fundgrube or suchen and then Liliput Ersatzteile. I got a SBB 877 lightsteel coach set from him at a good price a while back. Regards Mike C
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nevw		#15 Posted : 02 January 2010 05:03:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mike c <br />Nev, there is a man named Herr Arndt who runs a hobby shop in Hof (Germany) who has a large selection of Liliput parts. the store is hofer-lokschuppen.de or lokomobile.de. The Liliput parts are listed under Fundgrube or suchen and then Liliput Ersatzteile. I got a SBB 877 lightsteel coach set from him at a good price a while back. Regards Mike C Mike the new Site is lokmobile.com but is still in German only. have to try and translate via Google. NN
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ABCD1234		#16 Posted : 13 January 2010 04:41:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 18		Hi. Don't know if I should've started a new topic, but..... There is a really nice set of Liliput Rheingold Coaches on ebay. It says item #821 - I tried seraching Google- no results. My question is if they come with ac wheelsets or if I have to change them. Does the quality compare to marklin? Here are some pictures:
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tekin65		#17 Posted : 13 January 2010 06:32:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		ABCD1234 wrote: Does the quality compare to marklin? Hi, The Liliput Rheingold set is being held in high regard by many modellers. A friend have it; it is a nice and detailed set. Would it compare to Märklin? In my opinion, no. This set was in the market long before Märklin Rheingold; construction is plastic, no lighting like Märklin set. But if you can buy it at the right price, it would be a nice addition to your rolling stock. Cem.
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Unholz		#18 Posted : 13 January 2010 07:38:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,447 Location: Switzerland		Cem - "no lighting", are you sure? Look at the wording of the sticker on the top right of the box shown in the picture. This particular set should feature lighting, but earlier sets were indeed not equipped accordingly.
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tekin65		#19 Posted : 13 January 2010 09:21:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Unholz wrote: Cem - "no lighting", are you sure? Look at the wording of the sticker on the top right of the box shown in the picture. This particular set should feature lighting, but earlier sets were indeed not equipped accordingly. Hi Stephan, I was talking about the set I've seen, seems like it is improved since. But I'm not sure if it is easy to convert to use on 3 rail. Anyway, it is a nice set if the price is right, and I've seen many of them sold on eBay with outrageous prices. Cem.
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ABCD1234		#20 Posted : 15 January 2010 03:33:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 18		tekin65 wrote: But I'm not sure if it is easy to convert to use on 3 rail. Just wondering - would converting the cars be as simple as adding a pickup shoe and changing the wheel sets or would it require some rewiring? Thanks.
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sudibarba		#21 Posted : 15 January 2010 04:55:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 882 Location: Augusta, GA USA		I just got a set of 4 Liliput "Gotthardbahn" passenger coaches item L350114. I bought them from Eurolokshop.com for about $126 plus reasonable shipping. I had to change out the wheels to Marklin 700150s,which I had on hand, to run well on my M track. Turnouts were the problem area as usual before the wheel switch. That change costs about $8 per car. The supplied couplers ( user installed) work fine. The cars look great but appear to be very fragile. Fine plastic individually applied hand grabs and some other parts could be a future problem considering how clumsy I am. This has been my general experience with other competitors such as Roco and Piko. They are nice items (loks and cars),all plastic, more fragile and not much less expensive. I like to think I will just stay with Marklin but I know I am weak at times. Eric
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MarioFabro		#22 Posted : 15 January 2010 15:16:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: Pittsburgh,		As Eric said before me, it is my experience that cars non-Marklin have the tendency of loosing plastic details along the way (handrails, buffers, steps of various sorts). I will probably have to go through every Liliput, Roco and Piko car that I have and apply a drop of super-glue to all connection points before I run them. I was suprised by Acme and ViTrains of Italy: they have actually metal add-ons that snap securely into place. Nevertheless, will have to look at them closely before running.
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tekin65		#23 Posted : 16 January 2010 12:55:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Hi, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS! Yes, talking too much about Liliput cars made me buy this set ... This is the Karwendel Express that ran between Munich and Innsbruck. Because the coaches are somewhat shorter than modern ones I don't think I'll have any problems with them like other 30 cm. Liliput coaches I have. Now I just need to find a E52 in DRG livery and the gepackwagen By the way, I'd like to thank Usta for helping in acquiring this set. Cem.
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nevw		#24 Posted : 17 January 2010 01:07:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		A nice set Cem, Nev
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steventrain		#25 Posted : 17 January 2010 11:05:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,748 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice set, Cem. I like the colour.
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Brändlein		#26 Posted : 17 January 2010 17:45:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 72 Location: ,		tekin65 wrote: Hi, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS! Yes, talking too much about Liliput cars made me buy this set ... This is the Karwendel Express that ran between Munich and Innsbruck. Because the coaches are somewhat shorter than modern ones I don't think I'll have any problems with them like other 30 cm. Liliput coaches I have. Now I just need to find a E52 in DRG livery and the gepackwagen By the way, I'd like to thank Usta for helping in acquiring this set. Cem. Hi Cem, I made the same and I had to have thes beautiful detailled and coloured cars, too. By the way, the train was being pulled also by E 16, E 17 and E 32 electrics. Roco made them a few years ago in grey DRG livery, also in AC. They are quite nice, too. Thomas
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tekin65		#27 Posted : 17 January 2010 18:30:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Originally Posted by: Brä By the way, the train was being pulled also by E 16, E 17 and E 32 electrics. Roco made them a few years ago in grey DRG livery, also in AC. They are quite nice, too. Thomas hi, Thanks for the info; I always wanted to have an electric with coupling rods so it will be either E52 or E32. I will check the Roco E32. Regards, Cem.
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nevw		#28 Posted : 30 March 2010 08:52:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		The liliput coaches arrived, they look good but unfortunately suffered some damage to the Bogies in the area of where the Couplings attach, broke some retaining posts and guide rails: I hooked up two onto a loco and they ran nicely , through points and the double slip no problems. now to find where to get some spares Bad One Good End
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nevw		#29 Posted : 01 April 2010 02:57:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		mike c wrote: Nev, there is a man named Herr Arndt who runs a hobby shop in Hof (Germany) who has a large selection of Liliput parts. the store is hofer-lokschuppen.de or lokomobile.de. The Liliput parts are listed under Fundgrube or suchen and then Liliput Ersatzteile. I got a SBB 877 lightsteel coach set from him at a good price a while back. Regards Mike C lokomobile.com Spot on, he has the complete bogies, , wheels and a few other things. Nice pricing also. Got an order in plus spares. ANd a big thanks to Stefan who supplied the necessary part numbers from a 1980 Liliput parts book. Nev
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pserup		#30 Posted : 01 April 2010 05:29:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 897 Location: Ramløse, Denmark		I got this Lilliput "Blauer Enzian" set some time ago, but haven't tried to fit lights. Nice set though. (PIC HERE)
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nevw		#31 Posted : 01 April 2010 05:54:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		pserup wrote: I got this Lilliput "Blauer Enzian" set some time ago, but haven't tried to fit lights. Nice set though. (PIC HERE) Per, they look great. Nev
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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sudibarba		#32 Posted : 01 April 2010 06:17:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 882 Location: Augusta, GA USA		nevw wrote: pserup wrote: I got this Lilliput "Blauer Enzian" set some time ago, but haven't tried to fit lights. Nice set though. (PIC HERE) Per, they look great. Nev Nev, Do want you want, but my Lilliput are very fragile as I noted above. I have tried to branch out a little from Marklin but have always found the others to be lacking. Eric
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pserup		#33 Posted : 01 April 2010 06:18:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 897 Location: Ramløse, Denmark		Thanks Nev, unfortunately one particular car suffers from occational derailment. Probably a boggie that needs adjustment. These are quite elaborate and detailed but also quite finicky. Btw it's Palle, but I forgive you, knowing that you are entitled to a senior's moment now and then
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nevw		#34 Posted : 01 April 2010 07:29:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		pserup wrote: Thanks Nev, unfortunately one particular car suffers from occational derailment. Probably a boggie that needs adjustment. These are quite elaborate and detailed but also quite finicky. Btw it's Palle, but I forgive you, knowing that you are entitled to a senior's moment now and then Yep a Monster Seniors Moment My old ones track beautifully with the Old DC Wheels. (The ones that are complete that is)
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