Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,
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Hi to all,
As i haven't used k-track and don't have a single piece either, i wonder if it is possible to separate the right and left tracks like you can on c-tracks?
Regards,
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Joined: 04/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,652 Location: New Zealand
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Umm - do you mean via a contact track? K: 2295 Contact Track Set M: 24995 Contact Track Set.
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Lord Macca New Zealand branch of Clan Donald.
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Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 <br />Hi to all,
As i haven't used k-track and don't have a single piece either, i wonder if it is possible to separate the right and left tracks like you can on c-tracks?
Regards,
Cem.
Hi Cem, Usually, the two rails are electrically isolated for K-tracks, there is no need to cut anything, as for C-track. This also refers to the slim turnouts (22715/16). AFAIK the only exception where left and right rains are connected are the standard turnouts (2262/63). For contacting the rails, I simply solder the wires to the tin connectors clips at the rail ends. Hans martin
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Joined: 07/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 320 Location: Cape Coral, FL
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This is going to be a really naive question, but that has never stopped me before  : Why would you want the outside rails isolated in a three-rail system? I am confused. It never even occurred to me that they would be isolated... Thank you, thank you very much  , Jim (Dyed-In-The-Wool M-Tracker)
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Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,594 Location: Spain
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Jim Thompson Why would you want the outside rails isolated in a three-rail system?
To make track-occupation detection and detection points for S88 modules. When rolling stock connects the two outer rails, the isolated rail is grounded. If you have a Märklin electrical level crossing, you can see that it works that way; As long as a wheelset (normal AC) is present on the track, the lights are on, and the gate is down. |
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Joined: 07/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 320 Location: Cape Coral, FL
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O-o-o-o-oh!  Thanks!  "By jove, I think he's got it"  Jim 
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Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,
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Hi,
Thanks for the answers.
Yes, I need this for occupancy detection.
So I gather that in K-track right and left rails are already isolated except regular turnouts. Is that right?
Then one last question: is it hard to isolate rails on regular turnouts or should I use any special turnout (assuming there is one)?
Regards,
Cem. |
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Joined: 06/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 655
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Hi Cem,
You could use TRIX Express 3-rail DC turnouts with K-track. You will have to file down the track end pieces as their is a rail profile height difference between the two track systems. K-track has a profile height of 2.54 mm, TRIX Express is 3.3 mm but all three rails are electrically isolated and will work well with your K-track.
You can also make your own using Peco track, see the forum on <u>Dual AC and DC operations on Peco c83 </u> in the HO scale section. Track profile heights:
Maerklin C-track is 2.3 mm (0.090" or Code 90) TRIX C-track is 2.1 mm (0.083" or Code 83)
Maerklin M-track is 2.5 mm (~0.010" or Code 100) Maerklin K-track is 2.54 mm (0.010" or Code 100)
The reason that TRIX C-track is a lower track profile height is to accommodate the 2-rail DC market and the RP-25 wheel sets. The Maerklin C-track height of 2.3 mm is to accommodate the AC wheel sets that have a slightly different axle and flange height.
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Regards (a Scot in Wisconsin),
Maurice [ETE, TTRCA, IG-TRIX Express, Maerklin-Insider & TRIX Profi-Club]
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Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,594 Location: Spain
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 So I gather that in K-track right and left rails are already isolated except regular turnouts. Is that right? Then one last question: is it hard to isolate rails on regular turnouts or should I use any special turnout (assuming there is one)?
I remember to have read that slim switches are already isolated and fit for 2-rail running! -And that normal (R2) switches requiere quite a lot of work to be prepared for 2-rail. (I am not 100% sure about the above, sorry) |
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Joined: 13/12/2006(UTC) Posts: 125 Location: ,
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Henrik,
you are right, I have already verified that the slim K-track switches are electrically suitable for 2-rail operation. Their codes are 22715 and 22716. I have no idea about the shorter switches or the double-slip switch.
And the flextrack 2205 and the straight track have insulated the left and right track as well.
Since we are on the topic of K-track, in my reversing loop throat I noticed that some passenger cars from Roco tend to derail when passing through these 'long' switches, and I am a bit mystified by this (more details tomorrow, I hope!)
Cheers, N.Fotis
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Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,
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Hi guys,
Thank you very much for the info - very helpful!
Regards,
Cem. |
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Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,594 Location: Spain
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nfotis Since we are on the topic of K-track, in my reversing loop throat I noticed that some passenger cars from Roco tend to derail when passing through these 'long' switches, and I am a bit mystified by this (more details tomorrow, I hope!) I guess that you have problem with the wheel-spacing. Try meassuring the inside distance between the flanges. Should be 13,9mm (according to the good doctor J.Vuye, now member here also...) Note; these wheels can be off, even if you took the trouble of changing them to AC-wheels earlier! |
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Joined: 13/12/2006(UTC) Posts: 125 Location: ,
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Hello there,
I noticed this problem on a Roco passenger car in OBB livery, when we made some tests in a set of long K-track switches.
The flange distance must be exactly 13.9mm, or (say) 14mm is OK?
Regards, N.Fotis
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