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Offline DaleSchultz  
#1 Posted : 29 December 2007 03:26:55(UTC)
DaleSchultz

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I was amazed too see this short radius curve...
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I would guess it is for turning a tram (Strassenbahn) around.

any suggestions ?

It is at Karlsruhe
at http://maps.google.com/m...003701&z=18&om=1
Dale
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Offline ozzman  
#2 Posted : 29 December 2007 04:19:41(UTC)
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Some model trains would have trouble with a curve like that!

There's a tram turning circle like that in (or near) Karlsplatz in Munich, so that's what it might be. In fact there must be quite a few in Munich because all the trams only have driver cabins at one end and doors on one side. The same applies to a number of other German cities.
Gary
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#3 Posted : 29 December 2007 04:39:55(UTC)
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I now suspect that the train visible on the right of the picture is probably actually a tram... in fact now that I follow the tracks I see where they join the road system....

When we lived in Munich our apartment was at Machtelfinger Platz - the end of the line for Tram 16 which stopped running a couple of weeks after we moved in.
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Offline foumaro  
#4 Posted : 29 December 2007 05:20:04(UTC)
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With a similar curve to the other side of track you have a heart.biggrin
Offline Lars Westerlind  
#5 Posted : 29 December 2007 09:32:17(UTC)
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Yes,
and the tracks are separated from the other tracks as well.
/Lars
Offline ozzman  
#6 Posted : 29 December 2007 12:30:50(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Lars Westerlind
<br />Yes,
and the tracks are separated from the other tracks as well.
/Lars


The catenary masts are much lighter too. And to echo Dale's comment, it definitely looks like one of those multiple articulated trams on the right of the photo.
Gary
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Offline Purellum  
#7 Posted : 29 December 2007 12:51:36(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Some model trains would have trouble with a curve like that!
Gottardo? [}:)] biggrin ( No, no, don't start here. [}:)] )

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Offline steventrain  
#8 Posted : 29 December 2007 13:08:55(UTC)
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I think the tram railcar for used city area.
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Offline intruder  
#9 Posted : 29 December 2007 17:03:26(UTC)
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The turning radius of the street cars can be rather small.

Just outside Oslo, at Jar station (combined station for subway and tram) it is a U-shaped track with only approx. 35 meters diameter (radius = 17,5 meters). That gives a H0 radius of just 20 cm.

At Google Earth you find it 59 deg 55' 30.27" N and 10 deg 37' 02.42" E.
The streetcar returns direction Oslo while the subway, now on the surface, continues westwards.
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Offline Markus Schild  
#10 Posted : 29 December 2007 19:21:26(UTC)
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Hi,

Yes, this is for turning railcars. It is near the DURLACH - station. But there is something special with this: On this line two-system trains are used which run with 750V DC downtown and 15000 V 16.67 Hz AC on the main -lines. The turn is only used by single-system trains which only can run with 800 V DC.

The upper two lines on the picture are 750 V - DC, the other rails are own by the DB. About 3 kms east of this point the train changes the electric-system and both lines are connected. (Grötzingen Bahnhof). The system is very extensive. More than 400kms of rails.

In German: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadtbahn_Karlsruhe
In English: http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/Karlsruhe/

Markus

Offline ozzman  
#11 Posted : 29 December 2007 23:11:44(UTC)
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Thanks Markus, for both the posted information and the link. If I ever get back to Germany I'll be sure to have a look at he system.
Gary
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Offline Goofy  
#12 Posted : 30 December 2007 14:38:21(UTC)
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The pictures is fake...!

Somebody is folling against you... biggrin

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Offline steventrain  
#13 Posted : 30 December 2007 15:01:47(UTC)
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Very good site with pictures, Markus.Smile
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Offline Caplin  
#14 Posted : 30 December 2007 16:33:00(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />The pictures is fake...!


Your post is way too late for that statement to make any sense wink

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Offline Caplin  
#15 Posted : 30 December 2007 16:35:56(UTC)
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Nice slim turnouts at the lower tracks.

Regards,
Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL

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Offline xxup  
#16 Posted : 31 December 2007 02:57:52(UTC)
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I'm with Goofy... Smile

I believe that it's a vertical shot of a small section of Steventrain's layout.... biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
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