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steventrain		#101 Posted : 05 September 2006 09:41:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,722 Location: United Kingdom		Hello and welcome to the forum Markus.
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intruder		#102 Posted : 08 September 2006 00:28:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Interesting topic I have only two of these nice old boxes, one for a 3000 and a 3071. Maybe a photo collection of the boxes one by one is in place? Or maybe it allready excists? Does anybody know about replacement boxes or something for 3308 and 3309? They came in some strange transparent/blue plastic boxes that turn yellow and fall apart. I have temporarely tried to fix them with good tape, but it lasts only for a short time. Fortunately the tape is removable.
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Will		#103 Posted : 08 September 2006 02:24:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 320 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina		Agree that the artwork on the older boxes is very nice - much better than the non-descript, bland look M has now. I'm too young to have such boxes,save for one coal car I have which has the nice drawing on it.
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Munich 1860		#104 Posted : 08 September 2006 17:09:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />Interesting topic I have only two of these nice old boxes, one for a 3000 and a 3071. Maybe a photo collection of the boxes one by one is in place? Or maybe it allready excists? Hi Svein, not really a collection but a few pics which I once took out of sheer boredom ... https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=3830 Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Does anybody know about replacement boxes or something for 3308 and 3309? They came in some strange transparent/blue plastic boxes that turn yellow and fall apart. I have temporarely tried to fix them with good tape, but it lasts only for a short time. Fortunately the tape is removable. This is a problem, I am sorry. Try to get a proper box from a later edition of the BR 85 to properly store the loco. They can be obtained from Märklin. Keep the old plastic box and store it as safe as possible. No matter how torn apart, some collectors pay a lot more with the original box. Everybody who knows about the loco also knows about the sorry state of its boxes ... I have only ONCE seen an undemolished box for 3309, and that one had never been touched ..... Many regards, Hans
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john black		#105 Posted : 04 October 2006 23:36:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Another one for Oscar's excellent topic ...
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Oscar		#106 Posted : 06 October 2006 11:45:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		I spent part of last night getting out all my old boxes and drooling over them !
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Bigdaddynz		#107 Posted : 06 October 2006 12:15:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by BarneyG Thomas, Have a look on the NZ equivalent of ebay - www.trademe.co.nz - search on Marklin, or drill down through 'Models'. There is a fellow selling two large Marklin transfers (the type that affix to shop windows). BTW, this site always has Marklin stuff for sale, generally at reasonable prices. I recently bought a 1969 V200 in mint condition for USD140. For other Aussies and Kiwis, postage from NZ is a lot cheaper than from US and Europe. cheers, Doh, now you guys have discovered our secret source of Marklin stuff. There's a nice 3070 Tee Railcar set on Trademe at the moment..... If you're looking for empty Marklin boxes, check this guy out www.bear11.be. Henk has plenty of empty Marklin boxes (he sells on Ebay as well, but probably not for much longer - excessive fees). The website is still under development, so may be a bit rough around the edges. Unfortunately Henk has no boxes of the older variety - pre 1971. The artwork on the old boxes is something to behold - unfortunately I don't have any..... [:(]
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john black		#108 Posted : 05 December 2006 17:32:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		For a few Dollars more ... [}:)]
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Guus		#109 Posted : 05 December 2006 18:50:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi John, Those marvelous boxes [:p] Shouldn't we all demand Märklin makes these boxes as from 2007 standard packaging. Kind regards Guus
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steventrain		#110 Posted : 05 December 2006 19:04:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,722 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice boxed,I notice '40631' labels on box.
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laalves		#111 Posted : 05 December 2006 19:27:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Interesting..... those words in the box: "Locomotiva americana diesel" are the very first Portuguese words I have ever seen in any Märklin product at all... I wonder why did they do that? Luís
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john black		#112 Posted : 05 December 2006 22:17:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus <br />Shouldn't we all demand Märklin makes these boxes as from 2007 standard packaging We definitely should, Guus. The classic pics on top would add to the masterpieces' value ... Steven: When booster #40631 was released in 1996 there've been 5-digit computer #s, already
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Oscar		#113 Posted : 06 December 2006 09:39:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		<font face="Verdana]Thanks for posting those pics, John! This is the one I'd like to have. I actually prefer it over the common Santa Fe version. So far, I haven't added an American model to my collection. That just might have to change [}:)]! As for the boxes: they'll never make anything this nice again. I went to the first dedicated Märklin shop in Holland which was opended on Dec. 1 in Utrecht. Just imagine that, a shop which sells nothing but Märklin (well, and Trix). Endless rows of white boxes wherever you look. Very impressive. Now, just imagine all those boxes being light blue.... </font id="Verdana]
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Bigdaddynz		#114 Posted : 06 December 2006 11:44:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Maxi <br />Would there be a place where one could purchase a empty box in order to store a locomotive that would have come from a starter set. I currently have two BR03 and a BR216 which could use a box should I require to remove them from the layout and store them away. As aready suggested, go to www.ebay.de, you should be able to find plenty of empty Marklin boxes - just search for Leerkarton Märklin. Also check out Henk at www.bear11.be, he has about 200 boxes for sale. Cheers
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steventrain		#115 Posted : 06 December 2006 19:07:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,722 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz As aready suggested, go to www.ebay.de, you should be able to find plenty of empty Marklin boxes - just search for Leerkarton Märklin. Also check out Henk at www.bear11.be, he has about 200 boxes for sale. Cheers Both links didnt work with ',' at end of website address. Try this www.ebay.de www.bear11.be
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john black		#116 Posted : 07 December 2006 00:43:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: quote:Originally posted by Oscar <br /><font face="Verdana][size=2]This is the one I'd like to have. I actually prefer it over the common Santa Fe version. So far, I haven't added an American model to my collection. That just might have to change [}:)]!</font id="Verdana] Oscar, you're right - she's a dream !!! There's only one drawback. Since quite scarce she's calling premium prices ... [:I]
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Bigdaddynz		#117 Posted : 07 December 2006 09:56:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Both links didnt work with ',' at end of website address. Ooops, sorry 'bout that folks!! Thanks for pointing this out Steven.
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Oscar		#118 Posted : 07 December 2006 12:37:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Quote: quote:Originally posted by john black <br />Oscar, you're right - she's a dream !!! There's only one drawback. Since quite scarce she's calling premium prices ... [:I] [size=2]<font face="Verdana]No doubt, no doubt. Hey, I was looking at your picture again and I noticed that the loco has the Santa Fe colours on the roof! Was that how they were originally painted? It sort of looks as if an already painted model (in SF colours) was re-done in yellow, except for the roof! Strange.</font id="Verdana]
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john black		#119 Posted : 07 December 2006 23:38:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Oscar <br />Hey, I was looking at your picture again and I noticed that the loco has the Santa Fe colours on the roof! Was that how they were originally painted? Since I'm not into UP I can't tell you, sorry. But Hans Martin or Jeroen will surely be able to ...
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jerdenberg		#120 Posted : 09 December 2006 15:25:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,025 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland		Hi Oscar/John, The roof colour of the UP F7 is OK (yellow + medium gray, instead of red and bright gray/silver); the form of the paint scheme of the roof was the same for SF and UP (must have had to do with "fast" looks). However, the back part of the roof is Santa-Fe, not UP-style [some detail parts are missing; seem to remember something about passenger (SF) vs freight (UP) diesel, but not sufficiently interested to remember it exactly]. Jeroen Jeroen
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Oscar		#121 Posted : 10 December 2006 13:32:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		<font face="Verdana]Thanx for the info!</font id="Verdana]
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john black		#122 Posted : 01 June 2007 11:35:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi guys - that link to bear11 still won't work [xx(] ... are there others, please (not ebay) I'm seriously thinking about getting a few of those nice brand new repros for some of my oldtimers. With price tags the same as the locos (or higher) the originals are out of this world for me ... [B)]
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Bigdaddynz		#123 Posted : 01 June 2007 13:23:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		John, the link to Bear11 is working - here tis http://www.bear11.be/ 343 Marklin boxes at the moment, including some of the older ones with the great graphics. Plus Henk never did completely close up his ebay shop either:- http://stores.ebay.com/b...trkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm
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john black		#124 Posted : 01 June 2007 22:07:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Great - many thanks, David Looks like they are used originals in nice condition - but most of them are for cars, alas ... Do we have any maker(s) of brand new repro boxes for locos
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Munich 1860		#125 Posted : 02 June 2007 20:24:34(UTC) Retweet
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john black		#126 Posted : 03 June 2007 01:11:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Wonderful, Hans - many thanks [:p][:p][:p] !!! Please, would you change size to somewhat bigger - 640x or 800x
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Oscar		#127 Posted : 03 June 2007 20:12:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: ,		Quote: quote:Originally posted by john black <br />Wonderful, Hans - many thanks [:p][:p][:p] !!! Please, would you change size to somewhat bigger - 640x or 800x <font face="Verdana][size=2]Yeah!!</font id="Verdana]
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steventrain		#128 Posted : 03 June 2007 22:18:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,722 Location: United Kingdom		Excellent box,Hans. Thanks for sharing the picture.
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MärCo		#129 Posted : 03 June 2007 23:59:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,159 Location: The Netherlands		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />For a few Dollars more ... [}:)] I always wondered why they could not fit the packing of the booster according to the old locomotives.
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Munich 1860		#130 Posted : 05 June 2007 12:09:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by MärCo <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />For a few Dollars more ... [}:)] I always wondered why they could not fit the packing of the booster according to the old locomotives. Markus Schild has told me recently that most or all of Märklin's artists who designed the catalogs and boxes were originally from Austria. I simply suppose they have been dead for quite some time, or some may still enjoy their retirement days. Hans
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Munich 1860		#131 Posted : 05 June 2007 12:14:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />Wonderful, Hans - many thanks [:p][:p][:p] !!! Please, would you change size to somewhat bigger - 640x or 800x I will do my best but my Corel Draw program does not work at the moment. Please hold on for a couple more days. This pic actually is from the Ebay auction I won last month. I had chased this box for quite some time. The condition is like-new, inside and outside. And I have the stuff to fill it and enjoy my collection. Thank you all for the nice comments !! Hans
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john black		#132 Posted : 05 June 2007 12:29:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Munich 1860 <br />This pic actually is from the Ebay auction I won last month. I had chased this box for quite some time. The condition is like-new, inside and outside Wowwowwow - coolness !!! Big congratulations Hans, what a treasure [:p][:p][:p] BTW - Juha (Brakeman) won the very same set in January (HO forum, D&RGW topic, page 2) And you're right - most ebay pictures are way too small, almost impossible to resize [xx(] Well, since you won the real McCoy - can I persuade you to shoot a picture of the box, please ...
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john black		#133 Posted : 05 June 2007 12:36:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Munich 1860 <br />I simply suppose they have been dead for quite some time, or some may still enjoy their retirement days Thanks for information, Hans. Well, let's hope the latter for them ... As we all said a thousand times, here - if M were clever they'd revive that classic box design. The paintings are there, and for newly released models they'd surely find some good artists. Or they could try to hire The Great Almagik for his masterpiece pictures [:p][:p][:p] Such would definitely push sales. Since we buy what attracts the eye ...
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mj		#134 Posted : 17 July 2007 02:57:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 370 Location: Växjö		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Munich 1860 <br /> I have a question for you Hans, what shall be in this truly artistic piece of art? Is it a set, loco?
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Caboose		#135 Posted : 18 July 2007 13:32:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 187 Location: , Sweden		Yeh, i wanna know too
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hxmiesa		#136 Posted : 18 July 2007 17:22:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,612 Location: Spain		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mj https://www.marklin-user...mmunity/Notpublic/munich 1860/3106 Leerkarton 45 euro 04-07.JPG I have a question for you Hans, what shall be in this truly artistic piece of art? Is it a set, loco? It says on the box; "Zugzusammenstellung mit gleisoval ohne transformador" Train set (loco with waggons) with oval track but no trafo.
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Guus		#137 Posted : 18 July 2007 17:36:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		I get a feeling this is a rare set. Nothing found in both Koll's catalogues. Those boxes were used from aproximately 1958 till 1968. Guus
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Caboose		#138 Posted : 18 July 2007 21:45:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 187 Location: , Sweden		Maybe it is the unusual set with an F7 locomotive, some freightcars and a caboose. Never seen it but somewhone told me. Shood be made in the 60's.
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Munich 1860		#139 Posted : 19 July 2007 19:54:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mj <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Munich 1860 <br /> I have a question for you Hans, what shall be in this truly artistic piece of art? Is it a set, loco? I am sorry everybody who was intersted in this topic but I have been away for a couple of days, and now I have to catch up in my job. Caboose wrote correctly: Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Maybe it is the unusual set with an F7 locomotive, some freightcars and a caboose. Never seen it but somewhone told me. Shood be made in the 60's. Yes, you are quite right !!!! The side flap information tells me : 3160 train set, the translation given by hxmiesa is more or less exactly how Märklin described these sets in their catalogs in the sixties. It contained: Loco 3060 (Santa Fe), Box Cars 4571 + 4572, Gondola 4575 and Caboose 4570. And a track oval of course. I BELIEVE which of course means that I do nor know for sure that this box was used for a couple of other sets as well, namely numbers 3135 (Italian train set with loco 3035), 3214 (Swiss train set with loco 3014), 3134 (German train set) and may be also 3205 (steam loco 3005) train set. The reason why I believe this is that there are five locomotives pictured on the box, the ones fitting the appropriate train sets. And I ONCE saw the Italian train set offered by an expert ollector / dealer with exactly this box, saying that it is a very rare box and is the original one for the set. Regards, Hans
		I like M-track and my things that run on it were built between 1959 and 1972.
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Munich 1860		#140 Posted : 19 July 2007 19:57:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br />Wonderful, Hans - many thanks [:p][:p][:p] !!! Please, would you change size to somewhat bigger - 640x or 800x Dear John, and all who wanted a bigger pic of this: This is going to take a little while, but I will not forget it. I tried to resize the original pic from the auction, but it didn't give a satisfactorily good result. I will have to shoot it again myself, also adding the side flaps, and we are still using a real camera, if you know what I mean. Won't be THAT long though. Regards, Hans
		I like M-track and my things that run on it were built between 1959 and 1972.
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Munich 1860		#141 Posted : 19 July 2007 20:01:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Guus <br />I get a feeling this is a rare set. Nothing found in both Koll's catalogues. Those boxes were used from aproximately 1958 till 1968. Guus Hi Guus, short additional info: this box was shown in the 1969 catalog on page 6, and I suppose they used it even longer than that !!! Regards, Hans
		I like M-track and my things that run on it were built between 1959 and 1972.
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Guus		#142 Posted : 19 July 2007 21:10:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Thank you for the information Hans . I wish Märklin would reintroduce these marvelous boxes,if only for Insider models for example. Kind regards Guus
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RayF		#143 Posted : 20 July 2007 00:17:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,873 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Fascinating topic! I saw a reference above to being able to obtain replacement modern boxes from Marklin. I have a couple of unboxed engines which I would dearly like to keep in a proper Marklin box, but how does one go about obtaining them? Can I order them through someone like Lokshop? If so, how do I obtain the part numbers? If anyone can supply answers I would be very grateful. Ray
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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john black		#144 Posted : 20 July 2007 14:27:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Thanks, Hans - we're not in a hurry ...
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Alberto Pedrini		#145 Posted : 20 July 2007 15:58:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Fascinating topic! Can I order them through someone like Lokshop? If so, how do I obtain the part numbers? If anyone can supply answers I would be very grateful. Ray Here in Italy you must ask it to your dealer as "box for 37***" This is all bye Al
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RayF		#146 Posted : 20 July 2007 16:11:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,873 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Thanks Alberto. Unfortunately the only Marklin dealer in Gibraltar closed 40 years ago! I'll try emailing Lokshop. Ray
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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intruder		#147 Posted : 24 July 2007 03:14:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		I bought an old 3068 at my MMR dealer some days ago. The drawing outside the box is a Belgian NoHAB, only a sticker indicates 3068 The box has the name "Knut" written on it.
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jonquinn		#148 Posted : 24 July 2007 19:24:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		I have this set with the SF F7, but unfortunately my box has not held up so well over the years. lots of tape on the corners. my dad bought it for me in hong kong, around 1967. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Munich 1860 <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mj <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Munich 1860 <br /> I have a question for you Hans, what shall be in this truly artistic piece of art? Is it a set, loco? I am sorry everybody who was intersted in this topic but I have been away for a couple of days, and now I have to catch up in my job. Caboose wrote correctly: Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Maybe it is the unusual set with an F7 locomotive, some freightcars and a caboose. Never seen it but somewhone told me. Shood be made in the 60's. Yes, you are quite right !!!! The side flap information tells me : 3160 train set, the translation given by hxmiesa is more or less exactly how Märklin described these sets in their catalogs in the sixties. It contained: Loco 3060 (Santa Fe), Box Cars 4571 + 4572, Gondola 4575 and Caboose 4570. And a track oval of course. I BELIEVE which of course means that I do nor know for sure that this box was used for a couple of other sets as well, namely numbers 3135 (Italian train set with loco 3035), 3214 (Swiss train set with loco 3014), 3134 (German train set) and may be also 3205 (steam loco 3005) train set. The reason why I believe this is that there are five locomotives pictured on the box, the ones fitting the appropriate train sets. And I ONCE saw the Italian train set offered by an expert ollector / dealer with exactly this box, saying that it is a very rare box and is the original one for the set. Regards, Hans
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steventrain		#149 Posted : 25 July 2007 22:23:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,722 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice. Good hunting,Svein.
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VT 08.8		#150 Posted : 08 September 2007 16:04:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2006(UTC) Posts: 70 Location: France		hi, Some months ago, my dealer sold me a 42080 coach in a box without bottom (see pic) url=http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/2/107354802520070908142622.html][img] explaining me M* was reducing costs! M* France said it was the normal box for this item ... Can anyone confirm this? Regards, Marc
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