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john black		#51 Posted : 12 December 2006 18:51:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />Before we panic and start a black list I would give it a month or so David, my friend - I won't imagine what additional trouble in another months' time might happen. BTW, Panayotis' idea is cool, far away from panicking ... If it's about our money we do like Kingsbridge Bank do. Cold as ice
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steventrain		#52 Posted : 12 December 2006 18:56:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Just as well that I've taken a different route to obtain a red version of the E103 - I've purchased a 3358 off eBay at what I think is a good price, and will install a digital kit when the lok arrives, hopefully without having to go through all this nonsense. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/e...534018&rd=1&rd=1 I also purchased 3658 digital unused boxed off ebay last August for 41 pounds (60 euros).[^]
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WelshMatt		#53 Posted : 12 December 2006 19:25:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Views messages in topic : 1,345 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Just as well that I've taken a different route to obtain a red version of the E103 - I've purchased a 3358 off eBay at what I think is a good price, and will install a digital kit when the lok arrives, hopefully without having to go through all this nonsense. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/e...534018&rd=1&rd=1 I also purchased 3658 digital unused boxed off ebay last August for 41 pounds (60 euros).[^] Ok, you've got me at it now - will be keeping an eye open for a 3657! Could do with one to go alongside my red/beige Br.120.
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David Dewar		#54 Posted : 12 December 2006 21:34:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Although we do blame Marklin for problems I also consider the dealer to be at fault. It is the dealer that takes our cash and in many cases all they do is pack a box and post it to us. Dealers should be fully aware of defects with their stock and make it clear to the manufacturer that they are not prepared to sell items which are known to have problems. In turn Marklin should be supporting their dealers by providing stock which has been properly tested and clearly this is not being done. When starting this thread I did not expect many replies etc but now it is going and has some interest I will keep all informed of my success or failure to have something done before Christmas. To date after four days and two emails still no reply from Lokshop and it looks like they will have no further business from me. German dealers may be cheaper than those in the UK but at least the people here do provide some service and have the decency to reply to an email if only to acknowledge and confirm thay will attend to the matter. It only takes a couple of minutes to reply to a customer. I started off fairly light hearted but am now feeling somewhat pi---d off. David
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rschaffr		#55 Posted : 12 December 2006 21:52:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,181 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		David: It is not the dealer's responsibility to do quality control for Marklin, however if there is a known problem, they should refuse to sell the item until Marklin resolves it. As to the Lok Shop, I have been a good customer of theirs for years and have spend a considerable sum of money there, but I feel that their service has degraded recently. E-mails are not being answered, and I have had some parts on order for a long time that have been green on the Marklin site but have not materialized. I can't blame them for the long term orders from Viessmann for "vaporware", but some of the things are in their control. I have gotten no answer to recent e-mails on the subject, either. I don't know if 1) something is wrong there, or 2) they are too busy for their staffing level , or 3) don't care anymore, but I am considering changing my primary source in Europe to ETS and also buying more locally since it seems that the price differential has decreased recently, at least with some shops, such as Mike's and Martin's establishments. (Roland Bär: If you are listening, I think you need to take action now before you start losing your loyal customer base.)
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alonso231gery		#56 Posted : 12 December 2006 22:03:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		David my dealer is aprox. 20 euros more expensive than the average German dealer,but i have his phone number,his email his adress etc. 9 months ago i received one faulty GG-1(37490),he replaced it immediatly with the silver one. The conclusion:When you want to buy a sensitive item it is better to pay more,the dissapointment of a faulty item is much worst than paying some euros more.
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john black		#57 Posted : 12 December 2006 22:34:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />Marklin should be supporting their dealers by providing stock which has been properly tested and clearly this is not being done. David - I'm sure this one will come out good for you ... And you make a very good point, here: If they want our money they better do some quality control BEFORE shipping to dealer. Since he's the one who must <u>sell</u> those items and takes care about us, and there's no or little time for doing the maker's work [xx(] I do also agree with Ron and Nikos: I don't care about a few bucks more to pay - but I prefer to get top quality for top cash
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Alberto Pedrini		#58 Posted : 12 December 2006 23:48:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		rip-off of the year 2005 -- HW train rip-off of the year 2006 -- red 103 Who are the applicants for 2007? question: After two wonderful E03 & 103 models how to trasform the loco " PERFECT" in the rip-off of the year? answer: Ask to the M. staff. Thank you friends, I've deleted my order in time.
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Tony		#59 Posted : 13 December 2006 07:25:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Hi all Ok ok sorry only got back to the forum now. My run with the new loco was in digital mode fed from an IB supplied by standard transformers with a mains supply stabalised/clamped at 220VAC. The output of my transformer-bank is clamped at exactly 16VAC.IMHO I do not think the transformer has anythiong to do with my failure situation. Of the 30 odd new (last three years) locos that I have bought, this is the first failure or problem that I have had. I have informed Lokshop and they have requested that I send the loko back, which I will do shortly. Surprised that David had a poor response - I sent a mail yesterday with the pics and had a response immediatly - ( Lokshop has many email addresses - I always use mail@lokshop.de and have never had a problem with that) When I first got the loco, i did test it for about a minute or so and all was well ( I thought) - I then packed it away and it was this thread that caused me to give it a longer run - basically I had the lights on and the "engine bay" light on and did no reversals or anything odd. It must have run for about 10 min when it died ( Right in the most difficult part of my layout to retrieve [:(!]). Interestingly enough in its "dead" state all the functions still work fine ( sound, lights on and off, reversing change over of lamps colours) In summary I think that M tests these loks for a short time and they think all is good, but they need to run the thing for at least 10 plus minutes -like "type test" to check everything. I will let you guys know when I get the repaired/replaced unit back from Lokshop and I will clearly state to them to test the new unit for 15 minutes before returning it to me. Also I will post a picture of the inside body shell as requested.
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Bigdaddynz		#60 Posted : 13 December 2006 09:04:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:[i]Originally posted by steventrain I also purchased 3658 digital unused boxed off ebay last August for 41 pounds (60 euros).[^] Hey Steven, that's an even better deal than mine!! I bet the postage was even cheaper than what I had to pay (33 euros - ouch!!). I've also scored a nice BR101, so these 2 loks should look quite good with my red BR120, BR152 and BR185 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/e...261675&rd=1&rd=1 Looks like the boys over in Stummi's forum have been having the same problem...... http://stummi.foren-city...stummi%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
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Hemmerich		#61 Posted : 13 December 2006 11:47:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony Also I will post a picture of the inside body shell as requested. Thanks alot, Tony!!! BTW: Just to make one point clear regarding the information I have posted so far in this thread: It is based upon findings and responses from the Märklin Service department. The loco that I had seen and pictured at my dealer was one of those cases mentioned by the Märklin Service Manager in a conversation yesterday. The one I have "mysteriously" still runs perfect - what am I doing wrong - could it be the exclusive, supported Märklin equipment which I use? I'm looking forward to see how this "story" continues and hope that you get back a fine, nice running model soon.
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David Dewar		#62 Posted : 13 December 2006 13:05:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Hi Lutz. You appear to be very fortunate that your loco is running well. Perhaps anybody who has this loco and does not have a problem may wish to post and let us know. As you are aware Lutz I am very much a Marklin supporter but unless there is an overall improvement I will seriously consider buying HAG and Brawa locos which from my current stock do appear to be well made and have no running problems. Tony : Thanks for your info. I still have had no reply from Lokshop but I can trace the parcel I sent them and when I see it has been received I will mail them again. I would like to buy from local dealers but the cost in the UK is just too high. In the USA things look better but with postage and I expect the addition of 17.5% tax on the value of the goods coming in this again may be too high. I would of course like to buy from Mike who is a fellow enthusiast but I cannot expect him to sell at a loss just for me. The cost of Brawa in the UK is not far from the German prices so perhaps that is the way to go until Marklin produce the goods of decent quality. Meanwhile do not let me put others off buying M locos most of which are great but as has been suggested maybe buy from a local dealer or as I said about a couple of years ago in an old thread this forum could find a reliable dealer with reasonable prices and we all buy from them thus ensuring good service. I have spent nothing this year with my local dealer and he has just sent me a Christmas card!!!! Having spent about 2000 euros with lokshop not even an email. ah well just a different culture I suppose. David
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viragoLDR		#63 Posted : 13 December 2006 13:59:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 703 Location: ,		Not everything Marklin makes is by default good. Their stuff is made by human hands, and humans are just prone to errors. Whether or not something is made in Germany or China or where ever makes no difference. In fact, even the "Made in Germany" loco's have plenty of parts in it that were made elsewhere, just the final product is assembled in Germany. I've had problems with Marklin trains as well, one being my ICE2 set. Running characteristic of that one are really poor, and it's been pretty much relegated to a display model, cost me 700 euro though. The dark green Bavarian gt2x4/4 had issues at first as well, but those were solved after I bought a Mobile station and had the thing run for half an hour. On a 6021, the sound seems to fail quite regularly. On the other hand, most my cheap "Made in Japan" and "Made in China" N-scale has been entirely without issues. There's only been 2 minor issues (I have about 20 sets now), 1 steamer that needed a bit of high speed breaking in, something with the wheels, and another steamer that will need a bit of fixing due to wires from tender to loco being clearly visible. On the other hand, those loco's are a fraction of the price of Marklin =)
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Tony		#64 Posted : 13 December 2006 15:59:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 726 Location: Cape Town		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Tony Also I will post a picture of the inside body shell as requested. ...... The one I have "mysteriously" still runs perfect - what am I doing wrong - could it be the exclusive, supported Märklin equipment which I use? . Hi Lutz you are lucky indeed that your model is running without issues. Anyway I took a pic or two of the body: So I will have to wait and see once I send it to Lokshop - try get it done this weekend. Clearly the slight burning is just a "splash" from the damaged component on the PCB.
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steventrain		#65 Posted : 13 December 2006 17:50:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		I have one same that loco on pictures.
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David Dewar		#66 Posted : 13 December 2006 20:46:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Steven. Send it back to Lokshop (I presume that is where you bought it) It is their problem and up to them to sort the matter with Marklin. Do not keep the loco if it is faulty. David
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steventrain		#67 Posted : 13 December 2006 22:39:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Hi David,the loco was already send back three months ago and replecement new one and test run it for 20 minutes without problem.
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intruder		#68 Posted : 14 December 2006 01:00:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		So far I have been very quiet in this case. I do not have this loco, but common "after market sense" is glowing in me when I read this topic. I also hope that some responsible in Germany read this. I have many years excperience with different non-MMR products from different suppliers, the products values reach up to and above the 100.000 Euro mark. My comments are purely basic. 1. Every producer deliver unfortunately sometimes a product that is not "up to date". 2. Nobody has any benifit in complaining about the faulty product to anybody but his dealer. 3. The dealer has to take his responsibility towards his supplier - the manufactorer or distributor 4. The manufactorer has to listen to the feedback from his dealers/distributors, to get an accurate information about the phenomena in hand, and not listen (sorry, folks) too much to customers telling different stories about the same phenomena. Facts and figures are very important. On the other hand, 1. The dealer/distributor have to listen to his customer. The customer is after all paying for his daily food and drinks. 2. The manufactorer has to listen to his dealers/distributors, as they are his customers. 3. The manufactorer has to take his resposibility to any poor products he by misfortune put into the market, according to his production standards and quality levels. Finally, if the manufactorer's production standards and quality level is not "in line" with his target market's requirements, the maufactorer has a big problem. Maybe it is wrong of me to post this. I am sorry if anybody feels hurt. After all I am just a poor Märklin enthusiast who feels a little bit sorry every time someone is not happy with her/his newest purchase
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john black		#69 Posted : 14 December 2006 01:14:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Svein , all your points are well made - in theory. BUT: If sales start dwindling cos of poor quality makers better listen also to customers. As long as they have customers ... [}:)][}:)][}:)]
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intruder		#70 Posted : 14 December 2006 01:25:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Thanks, John I deserved that Of course, if a lot of customers complains and the dealer/distributor does nothing, you just have to go to the next level.... No chain is perfect[:I]
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john black		#71 Posted : 14 December 2006 01:44:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Svein, thank M's excellent quality [^][^][^] til the turn of the century I rarely had a problem with that brand. But then most of my stuff is classic digital-FX (got only 3 MFX-locos, so far) Let's wait and see - I'm alert, anyway ...
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Bigdaddynz		#72 Posted : 14 December 2006 10:56:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Just as well that I've taken a different route to obtain a red version of the E103 - I've purchased a 3358 off eBay at what I think is a good price, and will install a digital kit when the lok arrives, hopefully without having to go through all this nonsense. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/e...534018&rd=1&rd=1 Surprise, Surprise. I arrived at work today, and there was a parcel waiting for me from Germany - a nice shiny red BR103. One week from Germany to New Zealand - not bad, especially at Christmas time. Here's a picture of both my BR103's (3357 and 3358), and you might be able to spot the red BR120 in the background. Looks like I'll have to source a digital conversion kit for the 3358 - The 3357 has already been converted. Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 15:22:55(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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intruder		#73 Posted : 14 December 2006 12:52:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Thanks for the nice photos, David Good luck with the convertion!
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David Dewar		#74 Posted : 14 December 2006 12:54:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Svein : I agree with you. Complaints should go to the dealer who in turn advises the manufacturer. Marklin will soon listen if a dealers stop buying from them because of problems. John. Dead right. the old stuff was made to last and made with care, this new lot just rolls off the production line without a model being properly tested. Not every model has to be tested for an hour or more but surely one of the first made should be put on a track and run for day to ensure all is well. Nobody has to watch it just let it run and see if it is still running at the end of day. David
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hxmiesa		#75 Posted : 14 December 2006 14:33:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,587 Location: Spain		@Svein; I know that you are right, but in reality I think the lines between customer- distributor-manufacturer are somewhat blurred. Märklin does sell directly to clients, and does accept clients to send in products still on warrenty, for repairs. Also; We are private customers. This is not business-related (for most of us!!!), and so we tend to mix in quite a lot of personal emotions on the subject. (As you see, for some people it is almost a personal insult towards you from Märklin, when something does not work well. I myself am also guilty of this from time to time) In short; you and David are right about keeping it cool and stick to the rules. Märklin wish we would all be like that... ;-)
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steventrain		#76 Posted : 14 December 2006 22:10:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Yeah,I agreed with you,Svein.
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David Dewar		#77 Posted : 15 December 2006 23:38:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Just a quick update. Sent another email to Lokshop today and again no reply. If no joy shortly I will have a go through the credit card company to get a refund etc. David
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steventrain		#78 Posted : 15 December 2006 23:56:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Try this roland.baer@lokshop.de Got reply within 24 hours.
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David Dewar		#79 Posted : 16 December 2006 13:39:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Thanks Steven. I will give it another few days then try your suggestion. I was in touch with ETS as Ron had thought may be worth dealing with and had a reply from them on same day. Prices are quite good too. David
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rschaffr		#80 Posted : 16 December 2006 16:22:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,181 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		The main thing I like about the Lok Shop over ETS is the periodic "autostatus" on backorders. You don't get any automatic feedback from ETS on your orders. They do respond immediately to inquiries, though.
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David Dewar		#81 Posted : 16 December 2006 21:39:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Sent mail direct to Herr Baer and have had the reply I was looking for. Lokshop will send me 39800 in place of the faulty loco and as I was going to order this in the future this is excellent service. It appears that going direct to Herr Baer is the best way forward. I will reorder the 103 later in the year when I would hope the problem has been sorted. My business will remain with Lokshop meanwhile and I can only hope that they take up the matter with Marklin as of course this is the only way we will get better models. I presume the 39800 will be OK ....Lutz should I check anything before running it!!! Anyway at least I can wish Lokshop a Merry Christmas. David
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alonso231gery		#82 Posted : 16 December 2006 21:46:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)		I know exactly how you are feeling David.
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pa-pauls		#83 Posted : 16 December 2006 22:00:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		David, Nice to hear you are a happy Märklin'er again !
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intruder		#84 Posted : 16 December 2006 22:19:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Very good, David!
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steventrain		#85 Posted : 17 December 2006 11:17:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		That's great,david!
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Guus		#86 Posted : 17 December 2006 11:47:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		That's good news David. Nice service from Lokshop! Guus
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Rowan		#87 Posted : 17 December 2006 13:22:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,278 Location: Brisbane, Queensland		That's great news David!
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Hemmerich		#88 Posted : 17 December 2006 15:04:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar I presume the 39800 will be OK ....Lutz should I check anything before running it!!! Nothing "special" I'm aware about so far. I think I mentioned this fine model and showed some pics here already some time ago. Here another picture comparison between the new model and its predecessor(s); primarily the V200 018 (#37803) - I converted the 221 127-4 (#3782) from the 5-pole 6090 based HLA to C-Sine as in the blue Imotrans loco (#39820). The sound decoder is the same in all three new models (i.e. #39800, 39801 and 39820). You definitely made a good choice [^] and it is anyways the job LokShop to resolve the problem of your 103 (together with Märklin). The one I have is still running fine; no signs of smoke. Enjoy your new model!!!
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intruder		#89 Posted : 17 December 2006 15:27:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		Thanks for the nice photo. Lutz! I also like the SBB Re 4/4 10015 to the right Who makes it? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/john.whitby/airolo_10015.jpg
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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Guus		#90 Posted : 17 December 2006 15:40:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi Svein, The loco appeared in a reply from Lutz in another topic too. I'm almost sure it's Maerklins new 39420. Kind regards Guus
		Kind regards, Guus
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intruder		#91 Posted : 17 December 2006 15:46:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		I'm embarrassed, I should have known[:I]
		Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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David Dewar		#92 Posted : 17 December 2006 17:43:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Thanks Lutz David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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steventrain		#93 Posted : 17 December 2006 19:18:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder <br />Thanks for the nice photo. Lutz! I also like the SBB Re 4/4 10015 to the right Who makes it? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/john.whitby/airolo_10015.jpg Nice picture,thank for sharing.
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Hemmerich		#94 Posted : 17 December 2006 20:05:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Information related to the new Märklin Re 4/4-I model see at: https://www.marklin-users.net/fo...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=6012
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john black		#95 Posted : 18 December 2006 09:39:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Just glad for you, David
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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HueyCE		#96 Posted : 19 December 2006 01:10:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Now it's nice hear something good for a change. Good for you David. Ira
		Building German Era I-II layout(Mk IIIc).
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steventrain		#97 Posted : 24 December 2006 11:20:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		David,Any news of 39800 arrive yet?
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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David Dewar		#98 Posted : 24 December 2006 17:07:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,448 Location: Scotland		Hi Steven. 39800 has just arived and will be running on Christmas day. Full marks to Lokshop for sending quickly and no charge for postage. David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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steventrain		#99 Posted : 24 December 2006 17:09:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Nice to hear that,David.
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Hemmerich		#100 Posted : 26 December 2006 21:54:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		Indeed good to hear (at least for this part). I too wish you lots of fun with this fine model. There are also some news upon the "red smoking lady", but I want to talk to Märklin before posting anything (maybe wrong/incomplete) here.
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