Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Hi all: When digging trough our neighbours garage sale yesterday I couldn't believe my eyes: a muddy and desolate but complete V200.027 Diesel (#3021.9) from 1965 for $5 - what a deal    Back home after field stripping it became evident she was in desperate need for a loooong hot shower and some solid brushing - the mud inside was almost 1" thick !!! Eight hours, half a can of Ballistol and one set of new brushes plus schleifer later she runs well in analog mode. And roughly as usual with MS since that Delta decoder one of her former owners had installed is nothing to ride home about. But what the heck - after all, it's a kids toy. And that decoder even had survived years of mud and water plus the shower ... Though worn and rattling and missing 30% of her original colors she'll make a nice pusher for my Grandkids' old F7 SANTA FE Diesel Dummy  John |
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Joined: 16/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,575 Location: DeSoto (Dallas area), TX
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And people ask us 'Why Marklin?'   |
The McLae IB digital, DB, OBB, SBB epII-V Providing a home for little lost 'Gators |
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Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,431 Location: Attiki Athens Greece
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Please explain me what is "garage sale". 
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Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616
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That's great John.Good old Märklin quality.
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Kind regards, Guus |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom
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Great hunting bargain,john. |
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy. |
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />Please explain me what is "garage sale".  Panayotis: You can also call it a flea market - over the years lots of useless things assembled you wanna get rid of. Instead of putting them in the trash bin this is a possibility to make a few bucks ...  John |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Though worn and rattling and missing 30% of her original colors she'll make a nice pusher for my Grandkids' old F7 SANTA FE Diesel Dummy  Hi John, Great deal, why not repaint the V200 in Santa Fe Warbonnet livery ? This would be a unique variant of this model. There are many railroads who have bought old DB V200 and repainted them with their colors. Perhaps also the ATSF is amonngst them, who knows ?  I have an old S3/6 with LFCM motor which I have converted to Delta (relay was defective). I only use it in analog mode where it is a really good runner. However, on my digital layout, the noise is simply awful. Sounds Like a lawn mower with two-cycle-motor. Hans Martin
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hmsfix <br />1) why not repaint the V200 in Santa Fe Warbonnet livery ? 2) sounds like a lawn mower with two-cycle-motor Hi Hans Martin, your idea is nice, many thanks  ... Thinking twice I'd say I'll leave her just as she is - too much effort for a toy which will be treated and played the hard way ... After all - she IS red & silver, already. Somehow ... [xx(] And not to forget those 8 hours of work [}:)] I did invest already to make her run again ... Lawn mower - excellent comparison, hahaha  Best Regards, John |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,431 Location: Attiki Athens Greece
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Thank you John.I guess it is an american habit.  Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />Please explain me what is "garage sale".  Panayotis: You can also call it a flea market - over the years lots of useless things assembled you wanna get rid of. Instead of putting them in the trash bin this is a possibility to make a few bucks ...  John
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />I guess it is an american habit    |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 28/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 757 Location: Wawa, Ontario
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />Thank you John.I guess it is an american habit.  <br /> It can be looked upon as another way of recycling.[^] Maxi
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Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,612 Location: Australia
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />Thank you John.I guess it is an american habit.  It is also common in Australia too!  |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by xxup<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by foumaro<br />Thank you John.I guess it is an american habit.  It is also common in Australia too!  ... and in Canada as well ! Pierre.
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Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)
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it is not common here[:(!] you are very very lucky i suggest that u write a novel about these little creatures maybe(i am sure)you are talented john sth about a train that lost his parents...(a spoilt child) and a good collector(father) who took it into his warm and oily home  improvise |
An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by alonso231gery <br />"who took it into his warm and oily home" Who, me ??? - never, I'm not talented. But you, Nikos - you definitely are. Just look at the above ...    |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,467 Location: Scotland
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Well done John. Lucky fellow you are. We have garage sales and car boot sales over here but I have yet to see anything from M. Must be great fun doing it up and seeing how it runs.
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Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer. |
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Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA
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Hmmm..when I lived in Germany, I got a few great buys at flea markets. I'll have to see if there are any while I'm over there this year. December is not a normal time for them, though. |
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Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,959 Location: Hellas (Athens)
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i have seen the story of how you got one of your gators that's how i realised that i am not talented for sure john believe me... thank god
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An outsider. I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!
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Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,996 Location: CA, USA
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Laugh at garage sales all you want guys, but I bought an original set with a 3014, and 3 metal Swiss passenger cars, like new in the big red box for $75 at one! |
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Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA
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Oh, I'm not laughing, John. My wife drags me to yard sales/garage sales almost every weekend, but I never see anything Marklin or even MRR around here. I would not be reluctant to buy it if I find it, though. |
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Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by 5HorizonsRR <br />Laugh at garage sales all you want guys, but I bought an original set with a 3014, and 3 metal Swiss passenger cars, like new in the big red box for $75 at one!
Wanna sell it making a profit ?? I'd give you $85 for it, right now, cash in hand, no questions asked !!!   Just asking .....[}:)][}:)][}:)] |
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />1) I have yet to see anything from M 2) Must be great fun doing it up and seeing how it runs David: ad 1) Ya bet - surely no easy task for you in Hornby Country    . Seriously, it was just luck. The very first time seeing an M item at this occasion. Must visit such places more often ... ad 2) She may be an old rattling toy ... nevertheless, such resto jobs definitely are big fun !!! Rewarding, too (almost as much as buying a new one). But that old E94 a few weeks ago was really a diamond in the rough - brand new under all that oil and debris ... [:I] John |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,
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In Germany mrr flea markets are quite frequent.
Here in Darmstadt there are 3 or 4 each year, only for mrr and tin-plate toys. And if you like to travel around you can visit a market almost each weekend.
But a 3021 for $5 ? I can't remember that I've ever seen this (otherwise I had one). Rather, prices are like ebay.
Hans Martin
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Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,996 Location: CA, USA
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haha! For $85, I think Ill keep this one in the case for a while. $85 isn't more than a big tank of gas out here! Besides, you can't sell your ultimate find! at least until you come across another.... |
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Joined: 06/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 913 Location: The Central Coast
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Every week I scan the local papers looking at the garage sales(100's) looking for M the closest ive come is a little rusty m track[}:)]but lots of tyco,lima.hornby stuff if your into that  |
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hmsfix <br />Why not repaint the V200 ? Sounds like a ... Hans Martin: Wait a minute - speaking wise words you delivered an completely new, radical idea ... just couldn't put my finger on it the very first time reading it. Let's collect the facts: 1) She's long, already ...  2) She's heavy, already ...  3) She got an silver roof, already ...  4) She sounds like a GG-1 (almost  ) 5) But she's missing her pantographs ... 6) And - after all - she's missing badly that beautyful "GATOR-GREEN" hue ... Conclusio: She'll be an ELECTRIC in the future, living a new live as E200.001 [:p][:p][:p] on our Grandkids' carpet layout !!! And all we need is a bit of color plus 2 nice chrome pantos - no cash involved. Project E200 will be launched by next week ... John post scriptum: Since now my Sister-in-Law is out of town with our digicam (this develops more & more into a family cam [xx(]) there are no pics available re loco's current looks. But never mind, Karl-Gunnar posted a good one in his excellent report at our Forum's loco review department. She looks exactly like that one. Still ... |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA
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John: This project is certainly worth some before, during and after pictures. |
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Ron: There's not that much work involved and photos showing the cleaned shell [|)] surely won't add to the thrill ... But pictures of the finished Electric will be posted, that's a promise  John |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA
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John: I mentioned this to my wife and she said "see...you can find great things at garage/yard sales...you can take me to some this weekend"
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Ron: Your Lady is right. Well, it was Roro's [:X] idea (not mine) to visit that garage sale. Thank God I didn't refuse ... Good Luck for your hunt  John |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA
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Yeah, guess I can't avoid it. ("Gee, dear, I really have to get the scenery done on this part of the layout...wish I could go with you.")  |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom
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I didnt see the picture,it is still red cross in small box. |
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John, the pictures didn't come thru!
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Joined: 09/08/2004(UTC) Posts: 164 Location: DeLand, FL, USA
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John, the pictures didn't come thru!
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I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Thanks, Joe. Uploading was no trouble. But the blanks [xx(] in my file names produced red Xs ... |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,299 Location: Patagonia
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Nice work, but i still like more the original one...........:) |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom
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Very nice loco  |
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Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA
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Nice work, John, but the "purist" in me is screaming FOUL!  You did a beautiful job on the paint work. How does she run? |
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Ron, no need for screaming, look at it that way: You were right - IF she were collectible in ANY sense. Being also a purist I'd NEVER do such f.e. with that most beautyful analog E94 (#3022 from 1980) I was lucky to get a few weeks ago - this one will stay strictly in her original state, forever [^] Enter that V200. There was definitely NOTHING left worth any preservation - a pile of scratched metal, drowned in water, filled with mud and almost beaten to death by countless former owners. Were it not for my Grandson ...  Well, this was a fast, low-budget buildup - $20 including the loco! Now please tell me, Ron - what do you get at the toy store for the very same twenty bucks ??? - some truck made of cheap plastic which is broken the day after tomorrow. Before "restoration" she was pure junk - now she's a smooth runner. And a simple, sturdy TOY I'm sure our Grankids will have lots of fun with  John |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom
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It seem to repaint and letting with extra pantograph on Diesel loco![xx(] |
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Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA
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John, it was a good acquisition for you, no argument. It is better for the poor lok than the trahscan, certainly. It seems to have found a good, loving home.
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rschaffr <br />found a good, loving home Surely. At least til our rugrats will get their hands on her ...  |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Nice pictures John. And a good find. Congrats! |
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I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by john black<br />  Hi John, Sorry, couldn't follow this thread for some time, have been on sea in the last two weeks. I think your special painting is excellent. Have seen a few V200 with different color sceems, owned by private railraod companies. And yours is the finest one. Obviously your grandson is supposed to transport precious State Bank property with this lok. The catenary on the diesel lok is absolutely justified at the current oil price level. Hans Martin
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Joined: 12/06/2003(UTC) Posts: 275 Location: Malta
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Well John, Very good work indeed. We have all witnesed the birth of a new class of loco E200[^] makes me wonder why the DB never thought of that.  Fantastic work Chris
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