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Offline arifi  
#1 Posted : 07 August 2005 21:37:37(UTC)
arifi


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Hello everyone,

I am new in this group - and could not be happier to have found you.

To cut a long story short, I have a HO scale 89005 loco (I believe it is reviewed in https://www.marklin-user...ws/showreview.asp?ID=222 ). I was given it by my quite older cousin a good amount of years ago, and since then it has been waiting im my "items i love but cannot touch due to lack of time" drawer, primarily because he had told me it was broken. Recently a friend bought a new Maerklin starter set, and I got the chance to test it there - it actually WORKS ! :))))

However, it stops every now and then, and does not go backwards. The bottom contact of the loco looks unhappy, and when I took of the plastic cover I saw that there was a loose cable.

Is there a service manual for marklin locos ? Or, if I were to take detailed pictures of my loco ans to send it to you, would you be able (and also spend your time) to guide me in repairing ? I am quite handy in such operations - and God knows I am in love with this little piece of electro-mechanics, especially since it works after sooo many years.

Many thanks in advance,
Arifi Koseoglu


Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 07 August 2005 22:10:18(UTC)
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Welcome to the forum.
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Offline Guus  
#3 Posted : 07 August 2005 22:11:34(UTC)
Guus

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Hi Arifi,

Welcome to the forum Smile.
If I'm not mistaken your question is about the Märklin 3000 ( BR 89 ) loco. Nice little loco isn't it?

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Is there a service manual for marklin locos ?


Yes there actually is a Service guide in German as well as in English,French and Dutch.

http://www.maerklin.de/produkte...MSITE=&wishednumber=

Has your loco been unused for some time? If so ,it will need a thorough clean up of the mechanicals and a careful lubrication.
Changing the pickup shoe would also be a good idea.

Hope this helps.

Best regards
Guus

Kind regards,
Guus
Offline stephenbb  
#4 Posted : 07 August 2005 22:15:30(UTC)
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Welcome Arifi.
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Offline john black  
#5 Posted : 08 August 2005 11:13:52(UTC)
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Hi Arifi - welcome to The Forum Smile

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Offline Davy  
#6 Posted : 08 August 2005 14:53:12(UTC)
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Hi Arifi welcome to the forum.
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Offline arifi  
#7 Posted : 08 August 2005 15:19:04(UTC)
arifi


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Hello again and thanks for all the warm welcomes :)

Guus, I checked the link you mention but it seems the booklet is no longer available (It has the stop sign next to it: "Artikel werkseitig nicht verfügbar"). And also the picture on the cover of the booklet is different than the inside of my 89005. Will the contained information apply in general? Are there other sources where this booklet can be found?

Also, would you guys think that I should find the same loco on eBay somewhere and buy a second one to fix mine by comparing the differences - so at the end I will have two locos - better than one :). I checked the prices there, but the range is very non-conclusive: There is one which has a starting bid of 29.95 USD and has not received any bids yet, and another which has received 2 bids and is now at USD 2.01 ? What is the correct price ?

Best,
-arifi
Offline rugauger  
#8 Posted : 08 August 2005 16:25:10(UTC)
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Hello Arifi

Of course, 2 is better than one wink. However, you should be able to get the principles from pretty much any analog Marklin engine. If you want to know how to take the little thing apart (and how to put her back together wink ), you can go to http://www.maerklin.de/service/miexploh0.html and click on No. 3000 to get a detailed drawing.

In terms of eBay, why not try searching eBay.de - you should be able to pick up a 3000 for as little as 10 Euros.
Richard
Offline arifi  
#9 Posted : 08 August 2005 22:58:11(UTC)
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Thanks Richard, I followed the link immediately and there it was - a fully exploded view of my Loco. Ah, why do they not include how the wires should be connected - this is the only info I am missing now:
When I remove the cover, there is one loose cable coming from the Feldmagnet (#18 on the drawing) And an extra wire that was clearly added later connecting a connector on the rear end of the Fahrrichtungssch. (#24)(with soldering residue on it) to the Treibgestell (#5) - for whatever reason.

I looked around - but probably there is no wiring diagram - or is there ? Actually the drawing you pointed to does include a "Prinzipdarstelung" which presents the electric principle used in the loco, but I am only handy in repairing mechanics and soldering wires - and am very very bad in understanding circuit diagrams.

One additional point: Some parts on the exploded view that are shown as separable, are not so in the model I have: for example the Zylinderblock (#34) is depicted as a separate piece that snaps on the Treibgestell (#5), in my case however, they are die-cast as a single piece. Can it be that there are multiple versions of this loco - I suspect mine could be as old as 30 years, maybe more.

Best,
-arifi
Offline Guus  
#10 Posted : 09 August 2005 11:10:32(UTC)
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Hi Arifi,

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:And also the picture on the cover of the booklet is different than the inside of my 89005. Will the contained information apply in general?


The book contains general troubleshooting procedures on the various types of locos as well as electromechanical stuff.

Here is a picture of the circuit diagram of an anlog loco:

http://www.mk-welt.de/modellbahn/grundlagen/g_motoren.htm

Your loco should have the Märklin typenumber shown just above "89005".Most probably either "3000" or "CM800".

Best regards
Guus
Kind regards,
Guus
Offline arifi  
#11 Posted : 09 August 2005 19:43:36(UTC)
arifi


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Dear Guus,

The link you sent is just what I needed - thank you so very much! With the information there, even I can understand what is going on with the wiring. Will keep you all updated with the proceedings.
Thanks again,
Cheers
-arifi
Offline arifi  
#12 Posted : 16 August 2005 21:52:22(UTC)
arifi


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Hello again... Updating on current status.

I picked up a "Gebrauchsanweisung Märklin HO Rangier-Lokomotiven 3000" - on ebay yestarday (many thanks to a very friendly seller of another Marklin item), now awaiting its arrival. This is probably the actual manual for my logo. Waiting.
Cheers
-arifi
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