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steventrain		#1 Posted : 01 February 2005 11:03:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		HELLO ALL FAN, IF YOU DIDNT RECIVED THE INVOICE FOR 2005 INSIDER CLUB?,YOU CAN FILL WITH ONLINE RENEWAL AS FOLLOW www.marklin.com/renewal Hope it help
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Noel Loganathan		#2 Posted : 01 February 2005 23:06:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 297 Location: Brisbane, QLD		Thanks Steven This is good news. Perhaps they should have thought about this earlier. Well such is life. Noel
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HueyCE		#3 Posted : 02 February 2005 04:04:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Thanks for the information.
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stephenbb		#4 Posted : 02 February 2005 05:33:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Thanks for the information. They sure know how to make it confusing for all of us. It would have been nice if they included a message with the last insider. It would also have been nice if Marklin USA had sent out a notice. O'well their marketing department must know something we dont! Stephen
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Lloyd		#5 Posted : 09 February 2005 22:26:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 53 Location: ,		Has anyone renewed online yet? I did about a week ago and never did receive acknowledgement...
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xxup		#6 Posted : 09 February 2005 23:04:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,603 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Lloyd <br />Has anyone renewed online yet? I did about a week ago and never did receive acknowledgement... Ouch!! Not even an e-mail confirmation? I am waiting until my dealer comes back from the toy show to find out what is really going on over there..
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stephenbb		#7 Posted : 10 February 2005 19:57:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		No reply from M nor have they charged my credit card yet. I'm not sure if anyones home. They might all be out playing with their toys. I sent my renewal in three weeksago. Stephen
		Stephen(USA) ETE,NMRA,MEA
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kenneth		#8 Posted : 10 February 2005 20:42:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 16 Location: , Stockholm		No reply from M nor have they charged my credit card yet. I made my onlineregisration two weeksago.
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steventrain		#9 Posted : 10 February 2005 20:56:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />hello, marklin did charged my credit card (i did see it) 20 dollors for digital club but it take two/three weeks to charged my credit card for insider club after finished fill online renewal.No email confirm after done online renewal.
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oz_train		#10 Posted : 10 February 2005 23:54:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 265 Location: Newcastle, NSW, Australia		Hi All, glad I'm not alone in this: completed online registration[:p], no confirmation email[:(!], and no credit card charge[}:)]. Not particularly impressed! But, I'll try to be patient. John
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Tamrac		#11 Posted : 12 February 2005 17:29:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 197 Location: Frenchtown, New Jersey USA		I asked my Dealer what was goign on with the renewals a couple of weeks ago. He said I should be receiving a renewal form in the mail. Nothing yet.......[xx(]
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Lloyd		#12 Posted : 14 February 2005 23:32:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 53 Location: ,		They finally billed my credit card, now if we could get M to give us the Marklin Insider Club Forum in English, I would think I was getting my 85.00's worth..
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David Dewar		#13 Posted : 15 February 2005 00:24:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,464 Location: Scotland		I intended to renew my subscription but as we approach the third month of the year and still no word from Marklin I have decided not to join. Why should I pay for a service which is so poor the Marklin people who run this Club should be looking for another job. David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Noel Loganathan		#14 Posted : 15 February 2005 00:31:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 297 Location: Brisbane, QLD		Well I am back. Like most of us we also registered on-line and to date theyhave not charged our CC. We were told that all existing members (2004) would receive the Insider and the MM #1 together with an application form to join the Insider for 2005. Those who have already registered on-line have been asked to exercise some patience. We were also informed that the maintenance of the Insider (circa 80,000 members) Club has been outsourced and our view is that they have been trying to bite off more than they can chew. Verdict - patience mate patience Noel
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Lloyd		#15 Posted : 15 February 2005 22:46:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 53 Location: ,		Well as of today they have removed the $85.00 from my credit card.If they don't want my money then I guess I have saved the the overpriced subscription rate.
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steventrain		#16 Posted : 21 February 2005 20:17:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		HELLO, FINALLY IT CHARGE MY CREDIT CARD AS 1/2005 ON WAY!! THANKS TO RENEWAL ONLINE.
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chris.busby		#17 Posted : 24 February 2005 00:23:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2002(UTC) Posts: 138 Location: ,		My renewal form arrived today (23rd Feb) saying I MUST renew by 18th Feb. hello? is that the left hand?????? yes????? ah, this is the right hand, what are you doing?? no, i don't know either...........
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HueyCE		#18 Posted : 24 February 2005 01:34:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Chris- That is funny. Ira
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xxup		#19 Posted : 24 February 2005 10:26:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,603 Location: Australia		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by chris.busby <br />My renewal form arrived today (23rd Feb) saying I MUST renew by 18th Feb... Hello Chris, When was your notice supposed to arrive? I have not seen mine yet - I have to talk to Noel about paying for it online when I see him on Saturday... I have never seen such a chaotic change...
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steventrain		#20 Posted : 25 February 2005 19:03:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		HELLO FAN, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH RENEWAL MARKLIN CLUB. THE MARKLIN CLUB TELEPHNE NUMBER IN GERMANY +49 7161 608141 TO SORT OUT PROBLEM. I SPOKE TO CLUB ABOUT ONLINE RENEWAL,IT SAID PAID CAME THROUGH WITHOUT WORRY.
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stephenbb		#21 Posted : 15 March 2005 00:30:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		My renewal finally arrieved Today 03-14. Ofcourse it was due a month ago. However I also received my Insider, and order form for the Henschel-Wegmann $865 USD. It says we have until May 10,2005 to place our request. Stephen
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mcastadot		#22 Posted : 18 March 2005 02:02:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 16 Location: Ewing, NJ		Just go my renewal in the mail as well. I wonder if they are hand delivering these things now.
		I think I can, I think I can.
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stephenbb		#23 Posted : 18 March 2005 21:47:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		I guess M is double checking.. I received two more letters of renewal in todays mail. I guess they want to be sure that we have all renewed our membership. Stephen
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jonquinn		#24 Posted : 19 March 2005 05:01:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		I also just got my renewal from Marklin germany today. What did I pay these shysters $40 US for last summer? Supposedly it was for Marklin Club renewal. Maybe the Better Business Bureau needs to be notified? The most insane part was these fools said I had to reply by FEB 18! Only received it about a month late. Well, $85 US for a thin magazine and coupons for trains like the lucky pig car aren't worth it. With eBay, who needs the reservations for Insider models - you will find the very same items listed without haven't to go through a particular dealer, but instead shop for the best price. I'll be spending my $85 on something else. Proper decorum holds me back from saying what I realyy think of this. One more example of how the "Peter Principal" is true and applies to Marklin as it does many other companies! Makes me want to switch to Lionel.
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Sam		#25 Posted : 19 March 2005 07:36:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2002(UTC) Posts: 799 Location: Phoenix, AZ		There seems to be a general discontent (from reading here and at the Bar & Grill) about the Marklin club... I wonder if the people at Marklin are aware of this? I should think that they need to fire who ever is working this department and get some one else in there. On the other hand, if this is all due to the demands of senior management, maybe Mr. Adams needs to find another job.. You can't run a "Luxury" brand like Marklin as though it's a Chevy dealership, certainly not when you're dealing with this club which has the highest spenders as members... "insiders"
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McLae		#26 Posted : 19 March 2005 08:29:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,575 Location: DeSoto (Dallas area), TX		The fun thing is, I got my second renewal notice today. One sent 1/5, and one sent 2/5. If the postmark was not Stuttgart, I would have thought they had outsourced to Nigeria. (I am an officer of a major corporation....)[:o)]
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laalves		#27 Posted : 19 March 2005 20:19:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		I have also received two renewal notices. Both had the same name and addres, except for one small detail: the first referred Great Britain as my country the second correctly referred Portugal. Both had different membership numbers. Chaos rules! Luis
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stephenbb		#28 Posted : 20 March 2005 05:09:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Whats wrong with Nigeria???????????????? Their always on the internet trying to offer you free money and get rich quick schemes.... Stephen
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john black		#29 Posted : 21 March 2005 09:25:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by stephenbb <br />Whats wrong with Nigeria???????????????? Their always on the internet trying to offer you free money and get rich quick schemes ... Right. Most of the time these crooks take cover behind their diplomatic license plates ... [xx(] But sometimes they're careless ... and those plates simply "dissappear" ... and then ... [}:)] John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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jonquinn		#30 Posted : 21 March 2005 23:25:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		the part of this that really steams me is that in Dec. 2004, I sent Marklin USA $40 US for membership in 2005. I have just sent Marklin USA an e-mail asking about what has become of my $40. Any decent company would credit its customers with the $40 towards the new $85 fee (actually it would have its ducks in a row and make the announcement by mid-2004). I expect to be refunded or credited. If not, I am ending my Insider Club membership for good. I will also find out what I can do to recover my money, if Marklin does not provide some service for the $40 I sent them. I suppose my first step would be through the Better Business Bureau in Marklin USA's hometown. Maybe nothing will come of this. If you are unhappy with Marklin's handling of this, why stand up for it - drop your membership. When they loose a large margin of their US subscribers, maybe these idiots will get their heads out of their asses and shape up. Maybe over-reacting for $40? Well, why keep putting up with poor customer service - you will only get more of it and worse as time goes by.
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Lloyd		#31 Posted : 23 March 2005 06:45:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 53 Location: ,		Jon I agree with you 100%, I couldn't have said it any better than you have.
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john black		#32 Posted : 23 March 2005 13:40:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn <br />When they loose a large margin of their US subscribers, maybe these idiots will get their heads out of their asses and shape up. Jon: Standing ovations from a proud member of the Outsider Club John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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stenscience		#33 Posted : 23 March 2005 22:21:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/09/2004(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico		There are other posts regarding this matter in another topic in this folder, so I won't waste time rewriting some of the substance, but it is clear that many of us are pretty fed up with this matter. To recap: 1) Many of us received renewal notices well after the deadline (I got mine about a week ago). 2) Some of us paid our memberships mid year and should not have to renew for months (mine should go through October). 3) Many of us are concerned with the >100% increase in fees, especially since customer service seems to be getting worse. So, I sent an email to M* (info@maerklin.de) asking about these issues in a reasonably polite manner. I sent the email more than a week and a half ago and have not received the courtesy of a response. I am informed by M*USA that all matters related to Insider Club are handled by Germany, and so they cant help. I sent a followup email on Friday last. I received a "demon" from the server saying that the message could not be delivered because the recipient account was no longer accepting mail. I am fed up with M*. I hope they read this. I have spent thousands of $ on M* stuff in the last couple of years. I will no longer support them. Goodbye Mr. Adams. (I still will remain part of the forum-I have enough stuff to run a decent layout and I like the members here. Anything I need I can get through Ebay or second hand.)
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jonquinn		#34 Posted : 24 March 2005 03:21:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		I also sent an e-mail, first to Marklin USA, and also forwarded to Marklin headquarters/Germany. I first got a automated responce for receipt of message from Germany. Today I got a reply from Marklin USA. I was told the Marklin Germany mistakenly sent out renewal forms to EVERYBODY regardless of when your existing membership expires. As the Marklin-User above stated, you do not have to renew until the expiration of your current/existing membership. So at least Marklin USA is responsive, at least as much as they can be as a satellite group. All I got from Marklin Germany was a memo (in German), which I didn't even bother to read. So, I guess I'll have to wait and see if Marklin Germany honors my existing membership. I still haven't received the latest Marklin Insider or Magazine (1/2005). At this point, I can pretty much care less about the catalogs. With the internet, who needs them every year? Still highly doubtful that I will renew next fall.
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xxup		#35 Posted : 24 March 2005 10:02:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,603 Location: Australia		Hey some of us down here have zero zip zlich so far... At least you have two notices.. Anyone got one that mentions Australia????? If they got Scotland mixed up it is possible that they have decided that Australia is the 53rd state of the USA...
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rschaffr		#36 Posted : 24 March 2005 14:39:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,188 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		I did go ahead and renew on line, rather than wait for the late invoice, which I just got yesterday. I admit that I did this on impulse and wish now that I hadn't. Unless things change drastically in the next year, it will probably be my last year as an "insider". I will then join this forum's "outsider" club. . Do you have dues?
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steventrain		#37 Posted : 01 April 2005 20:45:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom		It finally paid for the membership 2005,what about USA?
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bmcrae		#38 Posted : 11 April 2005 03:14:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 970 Location: Okanagan Valley, BC		Wow, just received my renewal this past week. Postmarked Feb 5, it arrives at my door on Apr 6. Says I was due on Feb 18. Now I'm torn between renewing and telling them to shove it. [V]
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Noel Loganathan		#39 Posted : 11 April 2005 04:45:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 297 Location: Brisbane, QLD		We were informed by some members that Auatralian was AUSTRALIEN. One member from Christchurch, New Zealand, had country noted as AUSTRALIEN. We are still waiting for ours :-((( . Perhaps it is on the way from, dare I say, Scotland!
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Sam		#40 Posted : 11 April 2005 07:16:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2002(UTC) Posts: 799 Location: Phoenix, AZ		I sent in my renewal a month ago, and haven't heard a thing yet.... I don't know how they can raise their price, and yet provide less service in return.
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john black		#41 Posted : 11 April 2005 09:46:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Noel Loganathan <br />Perhaps it is on the way from, dare I say, Scotland! Makes sense, Noel ! As it seems David Dewar had received the whole Australian lot, doubled prices and is sending 'em one by one, now ... [}:)] John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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David Dewar		#42 Posted : 11 April 2005 14:46:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,464 Location: Scotland		John your on to me. Perhaps I should have put some stamps on the envelopes. David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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john black		#43 Posted : 11 April 2005 19:17:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />Perhaps I should have put some stamps on the envelopes David, no - you shouldn't pamper them too much ... John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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hqstu		#44 Posted : 13 April 2005 06:41:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/04/2002(UTC) Posts: 429 Location: Hamilton, New Zealand		Ours has arrived in the last day or so, I haven't had a chance to look at it, but my mate says it's the usual waffly fluff that we already know belonging to such a progressive group such as this one and others. I will be telling them to shove it - completely unacceptable service, a big "F" grade in my books.
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stephenbb		#45 Posted : 13 April 2005 18:19:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		I'm not sure what to expect anymore. Maybe the next issue will be better. O'well its paid for the year.If it doesn't improve, no one is forcing us to renew. You can always buy the insider model on Ebay. Has anyone seen any of the new 2005 product yet?? Stephen
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laalves		#46 Posted : 13 April 2005 23:31:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		A couple of days ago, I got a confirmation letter from Märklin telling me that my subscription is confirmed and checked up, and I should receive my new card next May.... Luis
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David Dewar		#47 Posted : 14 April 2005 01:49:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,464 Location: Scotland		Luis is that May 2005? David
		Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
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Sam		#48 Posted : 14 April 2005 18:28:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2002(UTC) Posts: 799 Location: Phoenix, AZ		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />Luis is that May 2005? David [}:)]
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laalves		#49 Posted : 15 April 2005 22:07:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by David Dewar <br />Luis is that May 2005? David That's what they said... L.
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jonquinn		#50 Posted : 16 April 2005 18:07:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		finally got my 1/2005 packet from Marklin USA. at least they are helpful and responsive, as the headquarters is not. I was extremely dissapointed in the Marklin Magazine. I would say it is worse than previous efforts (the international editions in 2004), with less content (pages) and poorer writing - very little detail in the articles. I was kind of psyched to see it after they put the teaser add in the last 2004 issue highlighting the change, showing this big fat magazine. What a piece of crap it turned out to be. my mind is made up - I will not renew my membership when it expires next fall. I am glad I got in under the gun and "only" paid the $40 fee last fall/winter.
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