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mcastadot		#1 Posted : 23 December 2004 17:16:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 16 Location: Ewing, NJ		Hello When did M change the stamp on their trains from Made in Germany to Made in West Germany and Back? Just curious.
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Thanos		#2 Posted : 24 December 2004 08:45:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,088 Location: Athens,		After the fall of the Wall in November of 1989 and the official German reunification on October 3rd 1990, all companies instantly used 'Made in Germany' again. The exact proceedings had been formed into a law by the West German Government some time before. Therefore a product marked 'Made in West Germany' or 'Made in German Democratic Republic' has been produced between 1950 and 1990. Hope this helps! By the way the station that I have on my layout was made by Kibri in West Germany!!
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Thanos		#3 Posted : 24 December 2004 08:50:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,088 Location: Athens,		Just an addition here... (sorry for posting a new message, my mistake [B)]) Also, between 1950 and 1990 products marked "Made in West Germany" were banned in communist countries. Instead they were using the company logo for exporting into those countries. Most probably that stands for Marklin products as well, if of course were imported into the German Democratic Republic. Anybody knows that?
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mcastadot		#4 Posted : 25 December 2004 07:03:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 16 Location: Ewing, NJ		Thanks Thanos, so 1800-1950= Germany 1950-1990 = W Germany 1990 -present = Germany. thanks and merry christmas
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Thanos		#5 Posted : 25 December 2004 21:28:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/03/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,088 Location: Athens,		Merry Christmas to you too...
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underworld		#6 Posted : 16 February 2005 20:45:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: Toledo, Ohio		Were there any models produced that said "made in occupied Germany" followed by US sector....British sector....etc??? I have come models from other manufacturers that are marked like this. I believe these were produced between 1945-1950.
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rschaffr		#7 Posted : 16 February 2005 20:50:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,181 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		Don't know. I don't recall ever seeing anything marked that way even when we lived in Germany and we went to flea markets. I do have a camera marked "Made in Occupied Japan", though.
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Sander van Wijk		#8 Posted : 17 February 2005 23:49:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Some googling resulted in this quote: "Markings such as "Occupied Germany" are useful for dating an item. Germany was occupied from 1945-1949, after which it was split into East and West Germany." So it seems like Underworld is right about the production year
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xxup		#9 Posted : 18 February 2005 10:35:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,580 Location: Australia		I have some 1960s wagons that are just marked made in Germany.. So the use of the West Germany marking was not consistent..
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steventrain		#10 Posted : 31 March 2005 20:53:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mcastadot <br />Thanks Thanos, so 1800-1950= Germany 1950-1990 = W Germany 1990 -present = Germany. thanks and merry christmas SAME AS INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL
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steventrain		#11 Posted : 02 April 2005 00:45:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		I have some new marklin locos,i looked there is no Germany mark under locos[xx(]
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john black		#12 Posted : 02 April 2005 16:31:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />I have some new marklin locos,i looked there is no Germany mark under locos[xx(] Roco, huh ... ??? [}:)]
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steventrain		#13 Posted : 03 April 2005 00:06:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,686 Location: United Kingdom		What about fleischmann
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kgsjoqvist		#14 Posted : 07 April 2005 15:47:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Thanos <br />Just an addition here... (sorry for posting a new message, my mistake [B)]) Also, between 1950 and 1990 products marked "Made in West Germany" were banned in communist countries. Instead they were using the company logo for exporting into those countries. Most probably that stands for Marklin products as well, if of course were imported into the German Democratic Republic. Anybody knows that? Most model railroaders in the DDR were using the TT scale (1:120), because they were manufactured in their home country. H0 items were hard to find. Still there are of course a lot of TT fans in Germany, and especially in the former DDR part. TT is actually an ideal size for a model railroad. You can make a small layout on the kitchen table - but still have more details than N or Z. The size is also suitable for decoders, but for obvious reasons the TT scale has been "cold" in the west too long to recover.
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