I've seen that kit as well - check this website out:

http://www.48specialmode...6makingof.html#The%20Kit

I'd reaaly like tp try it out, but don't have the patience or skill to build it properly.

45mm is the gauge - the wheels on the Trumpeter kit are 44mm and the Dragon kit 43mm. The Dragon kit is much less expensive, not as detailed (apparently) but much easier to build.

With 12 axles, I doubt you could have this car run through even a 2 metre radius curve in 1 gauge (certainly not through marklins 1020mm or 1174 Radii) .... but I guess running it up and down straight track would be OK .

The appropriate loco is a class 52 steam engine or possibly a V188 diesel, plus several box cars and flat cars as well as 1 or 2 passengers cars.

I have a complete (all cars) Leopold set in HO converted to Marklin from a cheap Lima model...very nice, I still need to get the turned brass gun barrel to replace the crappy Lima gun.

Because of the shear mass of this thing and the associated train, they would have used the v188 or the br52 series to haul the guns. Perhaps they did use a v32 as well - though it doesn't seem powerful enough to do the job.

The aiming of the weapon was certainly not done by the locos - in and of themselves ... in fact I believe the weapon wasn't actually on the railline when it fired. The massive recoil would have destroyed the railbed - or that's what I take from the actual pictures I've seen.

Oddly enough I believe the gun had limited manouvering capabilities on two axles on either end ... I may be mistaken on this ... but I do recall reading something to tha effect.

7gauges,

Here's what I found on V36 and Leopolds:

http://www.aopt91.dsl.pi...uns/German/K5-calais.htm

They were used to pull Leopold guns in and out of tunnels/shelters.

BTW, also found out that the V188 was a purpose built machine for the Dora 800mm giant gun. There were two of those guns and two V188 were needed for each of them. Apparently, no more V188s were built during WWII. This way it seems that V188 wouldn't be easily found towing Leopolds, which seems to contradict Lima.

Huhu, this getting off-topic... Should be RR history. Sorry webmaster...

Luis

Actually, there were plenty of railroad guns in the Sevastopol siege, including the aforementioned Dora 800 mm. This 1500 ton monster required a special double curved track, purpose built on site. The gun was carried dismantled, towed by the V188s. At the firing site it was erected, the special track were built and the aiming adjustments were by means of the V188s that towed the gun back and forth in the curved track.

In the end of the siege, the gun was returned to Krupp's proving ground, where Willi, the second 800 mm gun was (it never left) and both remained up to the end of the war. Both were destroyed by the Germans, prior to surrender.

According to what I read, an indeterminate number of 280mm K5 Leopolds, Brunos and 600 mm Mörsers were also used on that siege.

Extensive use was made of RR guns in Russia and little in the Western front. Notable exceptions are Anzio Annie (a surviving K5 in Aberdeen, USA) which actually were two, destined to Tunisia, but stayed in the Milan area until the Allies landed in Anzio; another pair of K5s at Pas de Calais, firing over the English Channel, and some Brunos and Siegfrieds, also firing over the Channel. One these survives today in the same city's museum of the Atlantic Wall.

Luis

Mmmmmmm..... Very interesting and I didn't know about that special fridge car. Have you got any pics/photos/references about that?

I'm just doing the finishing touches on my Trumpeter version. I'll post a couple of pictures for you here.

My future intention is to make a big diorama, depicting a station, some Märklin turnouts and track, say four parallel tracks, with a few freight wagons and a lok. Now, the lok could either be a CMK BR52 (it's a beautiful resin expensive model.....) or a more modest Märklin BR80, straight from a 1 Gauge starter set.... It would be a cool way to get an excuse to try 1 Gauge....

Luis

http://www.waffenhq.de/panzer/k5-eisenbahn.html

here's another link about ammo storage/handling for the Leopold/K5. On the first page they have a picture of a small diesel loco pushing a K5 - it looks like a V36, or maybe a Kof? I tried to copy the photo could couldn't get it into the message box here (I can't get HTML on, which would probably help)
an except of the translated page is below:
"The ammunition supply was very costly: Each gun required one ammunition, Kartusch, and Temperierwagen. The latter was connected with the Kartuschwagen by hoses in order to bring the Kartuschen on the necessary temperature. In the fire position, bridges then became between ammunition feeder road cars and Kartusch -, as well as caisson transfers in order to transport the ammunition into the drawer hollows. The shuttle dares the ammunition then transported to the gun where a crane lifted the laden hollows on the drawer cart of the gun. On the rails of the drawer platform of the cannon, this cart then was put to the shutter where projectile and Kartusche were introduced electrically over a slipway in the tube. If one shot from a turntable, a car transported the drawer hollow on a ring track to the gun."

also, you might want to hold off on the CMK BR52 resin kit. There is a Baluard WRC-14 small diesel loco that may be the one in the photo I reference above. It is "only" $180 at Mission Models. Maybe this can be kit bashed to run on Marklin 1? I have read rumors on plastic military modeling discussion pages (Missing-Lynx) that Dragon or Trumpeter may bring out 1/35 big wartime steam loco, and if they do, it should be a fraction of the price.
You could also put some 1/35 panthers or lighter tanks on the 1 gauge SSy45 flatcars. The Tigers would need a 6 axle flat, of which there can be found some resin kits.

any photos yet?

looks like excellent workmanship and painting/weathering

Time to update this thread with the loco I'm building to go with the K5, an armoured Wannentender resin CMK BR52.









I envy those Märklinists who can afford, both in plain €€€ and square metres, to do scale 1.....

Luis

Thanks John, I'll post some more pictures as I go along. This a very beautiful piece of modelling technology, and my sample will be camouflaged in standard Wermacht colours of the epoche: panzergrey, red-brown and sand yellow.

The tender will bear an impressive heavy armour. The cabin armour is already in place, and the boiler sides will be armoured with, mind you, timber!!!!

Like this: http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=CMKRA031

Luis