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plutoodie		#1 Posted : 12 December 2005 02:12:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Got the Central station a week ago - I like it! But ever since I discovered that the Central Station is a Linux box in disguise I have been thinking that it must be possible to tweak it. Any body got any tweaks to the Central Station? Please be aware that any tweaks should only the done by "computer" knowledgeable people and that tweaking the central station might render it COMPLETELY USELESS and it doubt that any warranty will apply!!!! I can start by contributing with my most useful tweak: Tweak 1: As the Central Station essentially is a computer the application driving the central station sometime crashes ;-) I have had this happen to me twice. Both times the the central station just got a blank screen. Unfortunately, the application on the central station is kept alive by batteries in the Central Station and a power off / power on trick does not work. This means that the only way out is to power off and remove the batteries - but then all the data entered is lost :-( The tweak: 1. Hook the Central Station up to you local home network 2. Log in as root 3. Reboot the Central Station using the "reboot" command. The next tweak I'm working on is to backup and restore the data from the Central Station - it looks like the following files need to be backed up: looks.bin weichen.bin daten/* Furthermore, I'm considering making an X-mas tweak but making a lightshow using the Stop/Go buttons in conjunktion with the backlight. Has anybody tryed making these two tweaks? HHJJ Bo
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HueyCE		#2 Posted : 12 December 2005 02:18:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Welcome to the forum Bo. The possibility of tweaking the CS has been discussed, but as of yet you are the only one here who posted any tweaks. Ira
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plutoodie		#3 Posted : 12 December 2005 02:38:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		ok - I could not help it - I'm watching Giants vs. Eagles in overtime and made the following litle tweak making the Stop and Go buttons blink: NOTE: Trying this tweak might render your Central Station USELESS and you warranty will not cover tampering with it like this ;-) And please only try it if you know a bit about computers and Linux in particular. 1. Create a script file e.g. "blink.sh" using vi containing the following: #!/bin/sh while [ 1 ] do echo ledstop_on > /dev/mcs_ctrl echo ledgo_off > /dev/mcs_ctrl sleep 1 echo ledstop_off > /dev/mcs_ctrl echo ledgo_on > /dev/mcs_ctrl sleep 1 done 2. Remember to give your script the executable bit: chmod +x blink.sh 3. Run the script ;-) HHJJ Bo
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plutoodie		#4 Posted : 12 December 2005 02:43:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		BTW did you wonder about hardware specs on the Central Station, then use "more /proc/cpuinfo", which yields: Processor : ARM720T rev 3 (v4l) BogoMIPS : 37.99 Features : swp half thumb CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 4T CPU variant : 0x00 CPU part : 0x720 CPU revision : 3 Hardware : ESU LH79525 Board Revision : 0000 Serial : 0000000006090501 HHJJ Bo
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plutoodie		#5 Posted : 12 December 2005 02:46:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		and the available memory using "more /proc/meminfo": MemTotal: 30572 kB MemFree: 20016 kB Buffers: 0 kB Cached: 4460 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 6360 kB Inactive: 1336 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 30572 kB LowFree: 20016 kB SwapTotal: 0 kB SwapFree: 0 kB Dirty: 0 kB Writeback: 0 kB Mapped: 4620 kB Slab: 1660 kB CommitLimit: 15284 kB Committed_AS: 11816 kB PageTables: 176 kB VmallocTotal: 614400 kB VmallocUsed: 408 kB VmallocChunk: 4136960 kB and the Linux version "more /proc/version": Linux version 2.6.11 HHJJ Bo
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alonso231gery		#6 Posted : 12 December 2005 02:47:57(UTC) Retweet
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franciscohg		#7 Posted : 12 December 2005 03:14:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,275 Location: Patagonia		Seems like there are plenty of posibilities here.... But beware.........Big M is watching you[}:)] perhaps the men in black are already at your door[:0] BTW, welcome to the forum Bo!!!!
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Frostie		#8 Posted : 12 December 2005 03:24:35(UTC) Retweet
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alonso231gery		#9 Posted : 12 December 2005 04:21:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,957 Location: Hellas (Athens)		what is a tweaker?
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usbeauty		#10 Posted : 12 December 2005 05:26:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2003(UTC) Posts: 214 Location: San Francisco Bay area, California		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br /> ok - I could not help it - I'm watching Giants vs. Eagles in overtime and made the following litle tweak making the Stop and Go buttons blink: You get NFL games in Denmark?!? Amazing. This bodes well for when I move to Amsterdam. Bruce
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clapcott		#11 Posted : 12 December 2005 08:09:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		There are 66 locomotive images (.bmp) available even though only 10 are selectable at the UI. By editing/renaming the bitmaps you can get a better selection - e.g. crocodile. I edited the function wagon (the box car with the (F) ) and put my name in it.
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HueyCE		#12 Posted : 12 December 2005 08:13:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Alonso- A tweaker is someone who modifies a program to run more to his liking. It comes from an American colloquialism- tweak: to make a small adjustment(ie to a carburetor or a speed screw on a M* locomotive). Tweak also has a real definition meaning to pinch. Bo- Do you get AFN? Ira
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plutoodie		#13 Posted : 12 December 2005 10:34:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br />There are 66 locomotive images (.bmp) available even though only 10 are selectable at the UI. By editing/renaming the bitmaps you can get a better selection - e.g. crocodile. I edited the function wagon (the box car with the (F) ) and put my name in it. Cool - was thinking about that one. Nice that the .bmp images are in a standard format Did you figure out how to make more than 10 selectable locomotive images at the UI? BTW: I have 67? The last one 67.bmp looks a little suspicious though as it has a later date (July 13) compared to others with Apr 19.
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plutoodie		#14 Posted : 12 December 2005 10:40:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by HueyCE <br />Alonso- A tweaker is someone who modifies a program to run more to his liking. It comes from an American colloquialism- tweak: to make a small adjustment(ie to a carburetor or a speed screw on a M* locomotive). Tweak also has a real definition meaning to pinch. Bo- Do you get AFN? Ira Excellent description of tweak! AFN? Not familiar with this abbrevation - looking in Wikipedia & Google I got: <ul> <li> American Forces Network, a radio and television network run by the United States military, </li> <li> Assembly of First Nations, a group representing indigenous First Nations peoples in Canada </li> <li> Ashland Fiber Network, a company that provides high speed internet and TV in Ashland, Oregon </li> <li> A variant of the Sophos computer virus </li> </ul> Which did you mean
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john black		#15 Posted : 12 December 2005 11:41:22(UTC) Retweet
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clapcott		#16 Posted : 12 December 2005 11:43:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br /> Cool - was thinking about that one. Nice that the .bmp images are in a standard format Did you figure out how to make more than 10 selectable locomotive images at the UI? BTW: I have 67? The last one 67.bmp looks a little suspicious though as it has a later date (July 13) compared to others with Apr 19. - Yes 67.bmp is the function car - No I have not found how to change the UI list (which I think is actually 9 + default ) - The datenbank has a byte that points to the icon but it only ever uses 00,10,11,41 which is why a lot of the legacy items do not have a good picture match. I have found other values do point to different icons but I have not established a pattern. - While changes to the datenbank appear to work on the CS It is not the same data that is downloaded to a MS which is what I really wont [:(] - FYI - other .BMPs listed @ http://pws.prserv.net/pjc/trains/loksymbole.html
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David Dewar		#17 Posted : 12 December 2005 13:31:45(UTC) Retweet
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HueyCE		#18 Posted : 12 December 2005 18:53:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,528 Location: Groton, Connecticut		Bo- Armed Forces Network, they show the football games to US troops stationed overseas. I thought that was how you are getting to watch the football games. Ira
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Purellum		#19 Posted : 12 December 2005 19:07:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,505 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Hello Bo. This is super, keep up the good work! [:p][:p][:p]
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steventrain		#20 Posted : 12 December 2005 20:15:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		Welcome to the forum clapcott.
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plutoodie		#21 Posted : 12 December 2005 20:58:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by HueyCE <br />Bo- Armed Forces Network, they show the football games to US troops stationed overseas. I thought that was how you are getting to watch the football games. Ira We get it on national TV
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plutoodie		#22 Posted : 12 December 2005 21:37:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br /> Cool - was thinking about that one. Nice that the .bmp images are in a standard format Did you figure out how to make more than 10 selectable locomotive images at the UI? BTW: I have 67? The last one 67.bmp looks a little suspicious though as it has a later date (July 13) compared to others with Apr 19. - Yes 67.bmp is the function car - No I have not found how to change the UI list (which I think is actually 9 + default ) - The datenbank has a byte that points to the icon but it only ever uses 00,10,11,41 which is why a lot of the legacy items do not have a good picture match. I have found other values do point to different icons but I have not established a pattern. - While changes to the datenbank appear to work on the CS It is not the same data that is downloaded to a MS which is what I really wont [:(] - FYI - other .BMPs listed @ http://pws.prserv.net/pjc/trains/loksymbole.html Looking at the central station to mobile station download the following seems to happen: 1. I think that the software is downloaded to the mobile station. It seems like that the software can be found in the following files depending on the 1.2A or 1.9A version: /img/lib/image/4010_1-3_mobile-station_A.bci (1.2A version) /img/lib/image/c010_1-3_mobile-station_A.bci (1.9A version) 2. To me it sounds plausible that the datenbank.bin also is downloaded - how did you test that you changes did not make it to the mobile station? Please remember that you cannot transfer the picture as these are static LCD items on the mobilestation... Note that the fact that the two softwares are present on the central station is intriguing as somebody mentioned that the mobile station 1.2A and 1.9A are acutally the same hardware with different software. Hence, one should be able to update the mobile station 1.2A to a 1.9A mobile station - that would be cool! Anybody know of a way to trigger the download, so I can test it?
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Wissels		#23 Posted : 12 December 2005 21:42:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 92 Location: ,		Hello Bo, i am sure the databank is also downloaded, because firtst i can't found a lot of my locnumbers at the mobile station, later i found all my Márklin locs, Greetings, Walter
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clapcott		#24 Posted : 13 December 2005 07:01:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br />Looking at the central station to mobile station download the following seems to happen: 1. I think that the software is downloaded to the mobile station. It seems like that the software can be found in the following files depending on the 1.2A or 1.9A version: /img/lib/image/4010_1-3_mobile-station_A.bci (1.2A version) /img/lib/image/c010_1-3_mobile-station_A.bci (1.9A version) 2. To me it sounds plausible that the datenbank.bin also is downloaded - how did you test that you changes did not make it to the mobile station? Please remember that you cannot transfer the picture as these are static LCD items on the mobilestation... Note that the fact that the two softwares are present on the central station is intriguing as somebody mentioned that the mobile station 1.2A and 1.9A are acutally the same hardware with different software. Hence, one should be able to update the mobile station 1.2A to a 1.9A mobile station - that would be cool! Anybody know of a way to trigger the download, so I can test it? 2) after updating datenbank.bin with a different default motorola address and changed function assignments, I then used the CS UI to add a legacy device "From database" and indeed the legacy motorola address was picked up. This was a test but is mute because the CS allows reassignment of functions anyway. Howver I then connected a downlevel MS and the automatic update occured to version 1.3 but neither the legacy address nor the function assignments appeared to stick when I disconnect the MS and try to use it on its own. 1) I had updated the 4010 link pointers to reference the C010 image but this was after I had already updated all my (and friends) MS's so I am waiting to find another one to test the theory. I did try to create a 1.4 pointer thinking that that was all that was needed to trigger the refresh but it hasn't worked. So I think there must be some other file of versions somewhere.
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clapcott		#25 Posted : 13 December 2005 07:07:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Wissels <br />i am sure the databank is also downloaded, because firtst i can't found a lot of my locnumbers at the mobile station, later i found all my Márklin locs, Yes an update of the MS code to 1.3 does include an updated list list of legacy devices (most of the 2004 and 2005 new items). However I think this is imbeded in the total image file. The seperate "datenbank.bin" file that can be seen and I have edited does not seem to be the one that is used during an MS update.
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Guus		#26 Posted : 13 December 2005 13:21:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi Bo, Welcome to the forum . I'm deeply impressed by your knowledge of programming. Although I would not try any tweak on a CS if I had one,this still makes very interesting reading.For me it all adds to a deeper knowledge and hopefully better understanding of the operating principles. Thanks Kind regards Guus
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stephenbb		#27 Posted : 13 December 2005 15:57:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Bo! keep sending the tweaks. Stephen(USA)
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plutoodie		#28 Posted : 13 December 2005 21:36:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br />Looking at the central station to mobile station download the following seems to happen: 1. I think that the software is downloaded to the mobile station. It seems like that the software can be found in the following files depending on the 1.2A or 1.9A version: /img/lib/image/4010_1-3_mobile-station_A.bci (1.2A version) /img/lib/image/c010_1-3_mobile-station_A.bci (1.9A version) 2. To me it sounds plausible that the datenbank.bin also is downloaded - how did you test that you changes did not make it to the mobile station? Please remember that you cannot transfer the picture as these are static LCD items on the mobilestation... Note that the fact that the two softwares are present on the central station is intriguing as somebody mentioned that the mobile station 1.2A and 1.9A are acutally the same hardware with different software. Hence, one should be able to update the mobile station 1.2A to a 1.9A mobile station - that would be cool! Anybody know of a way to trigger the download, so I can test it? 2) after updating datenbank.bin with a different default motorola address and changed function assignments, I then used the CS UI to add a legacy device "From database" and indeed the legacy motorola address was picked up. This was a test but is mute because the CS allows reassignment of functions anyway. Howver I then connected a downlevel MS and the automatic update occured to version 1.3 but neither the legacy address nor the function assignments appeared to stick when I disconnect the MS and try to use it on its own. 1) I had updated the 4010 link pointers to reference the C010 image but this was after I had already updated all my (and friends) MS's so I am waiting to find another one to test the theory. I did try to create a 1.4 pointer thinking that that was all that was needed to trigger the refresh but it hasn't worked. So I think there must be some other file of versions somewhere. 1) I had a MS that was not updated - did the linking and it is still a 1.2A... Strange. Also tried the creation of the 1.4 pointer (in both the can and images libraries) - no triggering of download? Waht are we missing?
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plutoodie		#29 Posted : 14 December 2005 00:04:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br /> 1) I had a MS that was not updated - did the linking and it is still a 1.2A... Strange. Also tried the creation of the 1.4 pointer (in both the can and images libraries) - no triggering of download? Waht are we missing? Hmmm - just noticed the mobile station I did this trick to is marked as "AN:60651" under the Setup/info menu. This is the 1.9A Märklin number according to the discussion in the "Mobile Station - 1.2/1.9A" topic.... All others I MS I downloaded are marked as "AN:60652". For all of them "OUC: 1.2A" is marked... Seems like I actually downloaded the software - any good suggestions on how to test if I get 1.9A??
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clapcott		#30 Posted : 14 December 2005 11:18:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com Hmmm - just noticed the mobile station I did this trick to is marked as "AN:60651" under the Setup/info menu. This is the 1.9A Märklin number according to the discussion in the "Mobile Station - 1.2/1.9A" topic.... All others I MS I downloaded are marked as "AN:60652". For all of them "OUC: 1.2A" is marked... Seems like I actually downloaded the software - any good suggestions on how to test if I get 1.9A?? Bo, what code type is shown under info? 4010 or c010 ? For OVC (OVer Current) testing i would but an ammeter in series with the feed from the transformer and then use jja good old wirewound variable resister connected between the rail and stud to simulate a slowly (but firmly) increasing load and note at what current draw the MS cuts out. Important: make sure the transformer is capable of delivering > 1.9Amps (= 30VA @ 16v). The black bricks that come with most starter sets cannot (only 18VA and it is DC).
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hxmiesa		#31 Posted : 19 December 2005 16:57:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,521 Location: Spain		Hello Users, Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br /> Hmmm - just noticed the mobile station I did this trick to is marked as "AN:60651" under the Setup/info menu. This is the 1.9A Märklin number according to the discussion in the "Mobile Station - 1.2/1.9A" topic.... All others I MS I downloaded are marked as "AN:60652". For all of them "OUC: 1.2A" is marked... Seems like I actually downloaded the software - any good suggestions on how to test if I get 1.9A?? Where is the continuation of this story? It was actually THIS very thread that made me (finally) subscribe to Marklin-users! ;-) So...? (Eagerly awaiting the results of the amp-test... Zzzzzzzzz...
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clapcott		#32 Posted : 19 December 2005 20:17:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		I reproduced Bo's achievement to load the 60651 image into a 60652. My tests on current draw show no change in the current draw before "shorting" off.
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hxmiesa		#33 Posted : 20 December 2005 10:55:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,521 Location: Spain		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br />I reproduced Bo's achievement to load the 60651 image into a 60652. My tests on current draw show no change in the current draw before "shorting" off. Okay, thanks Peter! If you guys keep trying, I´m sure there will be a breakthough some day? ;-) (Maybe surgery is need to circumvent some hardcoded option?)
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Purellum		#34 Posted : 21 December 2005 03:22:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,505 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Hello friends. I find things like this very interesting, to do things that can't be done, so I hope you will continue I have opened my 5 MS's, and they are almost all different inside. 1: 1,2A, 60652 on back, on PCB: Märklin mobile station 1.1 and by ESU 2: Like #1 3: 1,9A, 60651 on back, on PCB: Märklin mobile station 1.0 ( No ESU! ) More komponents on display-side of PCB than #1 and #2, one of them a kristal 4: 1,9A, 60651 on back, on PCB: Märklin mobile station 1.1 and by ESU More komponents ( 3 very small, looks like resistors or capacitors ) on display-side of PCB than #1 and #2, but no kristal 5: like #4, but with different rubber-thing to secure cable. I hope that this will help you get further. On the other hand, I don't see the need for this, my own testing of trafos, original wire-ing and MS, found that the voltage drop was so large (( 7-8 volts ),link: https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=3565 ) that a far better solution is to by a booster of some kind. ( Delta station, 17 EURO. ) My Christmas wish from you tweaker-guys is: find a solution that lets one master MS have more than one slave.[:p] Thank you, merry christmas and happy new year. Per.
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clapcott		#35 Posted : 21 December 2005 09:28:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum My Christmas wish from you tweaker-guys is: find a solution that lets one master MS have more than one slave.[:p] Per, I have used the terminal to connect more than one slave to a master MS. (the bus is common dot-ored). All MSs powered on but only the first slave would become active. Any others word display "No Master". To resolve this I think we would have to get deep into the MS microcode.
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hxmiesa		#36 Posted : 21 December 2005 12:36:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,521 Location: Spain		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Purellum On the other hand, I don't see the need for this, my own testing of trafos, original wire-ing and MS, found that the voltage drop was so large (( 7-8 volts ),link: https://www.marklin-user...ault.aspx?g=posts&t=3565 ) that a far better solution is to by a booster of some kind. ( Delta station, 17 EURO. ) But the Delta wouldnt allow two-way comunication, and I understand that the MS (when using a Delta-booster) would have to be totally isolated from the tracks?!
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Purellum		#37 Posted : 21 December 2005 23:37:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,505 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Clapcott: I tried the same thing, as I wrote in the linked topic, but I'm still wishing! What does this mean:(the bus is common dot-ored).? Hxmiesa: You are right, if you want the 2-way-com, delta is not the answer. Thank you. Per.
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stephenbb		#38 Posted : 22 December 2005 00:43:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Keep sending the info!!!!!!!!! Stephen(USA)
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Fredrik		#39 Posted : 27 December 2005 12:33:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br />Got the Central station a week ago - I like it! But ever since I discovered that the Central Station is a Linux box in disguise I have been thinking that it must be possible to tweak it. Any body got any tweaks to the Central Station? Please be aware that any tweaks should only the done by "computer" knowledgeable people and that tweaking the central station might render it COMPLETELY USELESS and it doubt that any warranty will apply!!!! I can start by contributing with my most useful tweak: Tweak 1: As the Central Station essentially is a computer the application driving the central station sometime crashes ;-) I have had this happen to me twice. Both times the the central station just got a blank screen. Unfortunately, the application on the central station is kept alive by batteries in the Central Station and a power off / power on trick does not work. This means that the only way out is to power off and remove the batteries - but then all the data entered is lost :-( The tweak: 1. Hook the Central Station up to you local home network 2. Log in as root 3. Reboot the Central Station using the "reboot" command. The next tweak I'm working on is to backup and restore the data from the Central Station - it looks like the following files need to be backed up: looks.bin weichen.bin daten/* Furthermore, I'm considering making an X-mas tweak but making a lightshow using the Stop/Go buttons in conjunktion with the backlight. Has anybody tryed making these two tweaks? HHJJ Bo Hi, have you found out how to backup/download all files to a pc (so I can examine them there instead)? I´m unfortunately not good enough on Linux systems... And how did you find out to use the "ledstop_on &gt; /dev/mcs_ctrl"?? Somewhere in some file there must be a pointer to which engine-symbols to use, in which one then could enter the missing ones... Fredrik.
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prc		#40 Posted : 27 December 2005 16:26:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		[quote Hi, have you found out how to backup/download all files to a pc (so I can examine them there instead)? I´m unfortunately not good enough on Linux systems... And how did you find out to use the "ledstop_on > /dev/mcs_ctrl"?? Somewhere in some file there must be a pointer to which engine-symbols to use, in which one then could enter the missing ones... Fredrik. Fredrik, yes you can download files to your PC using the FTP protocol. Busybox supports ftpput and ftpget. You will need to have an FTP server application running on your PC, or easier use an Apple MAC computer which is also UNIX based (FTP already installed). It is easy for a single file but if you want to copy all images files in a directory you will want to run a script for that. If you want a copy of a script file to do that let me know and I will post. That is how I copied all of the graphic icon images down and can modify or change them and load them back on the CS. I will point out that this is dangerous if something goes wrong putting files back oin the CS. If you make a mistake you can overwrite files that will completely disabled your CS and with no ability to load from a disk you will be SOL. Regards
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Fredrik		#41 Posted : 27 December 2005 16:45:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br />Fredrik, yes you can download files to your PC using the FTP protocol. Busybox supports ftpput and ftpget. You will need to have an FTP server application running on your PC, or easier use an Apple MAC computer which is also UNIX based (FTP already installed). It is easy for a single file but if you want to copy all images files in a directory you will want to run a script for that. If you want a copy of a script file to do that let me know and I will post. That is how I copied all of the graphic icon images down and can modify or change them and load them back on the CS. I will point out that this is dangerous if something goes wrong putting files back oin the CS. If you make a mistake you can overwrite files that will completely disabled your CS and with no ability to load from a disk you will be SOL. Regards Hi, I only wish to copy/download (all) the files available for now - not upload any (at least not now). And I don't have a MAC computer... but I'll try my ftp-client. Thanx, Fredrik.
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plutoodie		#42 Posted : 30 December 2005 00:42:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fredsaf <br /> Hi, have you found out how to backup/download all files to a pc (so I can examine them there instead)? I´m unfortunately not good enough on Linux systems... And how did you find out to use the "ledstop_on &gt; /dev/mcs_ctrl"?? Somewhere in some file there must be a pointer to which engine-symbols to use, in which one then could enter the missing ones... Fredrik. With respect to the "ledstop_on &gt; /dev/mcs_ctrl": I figured this out by looking in the startup files for the Central Station ("/etc/init.d/S99startup") and for the CS Application ("/root/loop.sh" - triggered by the S99startup script). A short summary of what I have found to be working with the "mcs_ctrl" device (aka the Märklin Central Station device) by looking in the devicedriver: batt_on/batt_off: Turn the use of battery on and off. As long as the battery is "ON" the central station is still running even though the power is disconnected. ledstop_on/ledstop_off: Light on/off in the "STOP" button. ledgo_on/ledgo_off: Light on/off in the "GO" button. backlight&lt;number&gt;: Set the backlight to the specified value. Seems like the range of legal values are 000-999. Unsure of the relation is to the "Backgroung lighting" option in the Central Station which has legal values 0-15. ...ups - the list is longer, but I have a slight problem - my CS is [xx(]
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plutoodie		#43 Posted : 30 December 2005 00:48:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		[:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(] <u>HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP</u> - I accendentially ([:o)]) erased the file: /lib/modules/mcs_adc.ko could anybody email this file to me? Maybe this will teach me to make a backup [B)]
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Fredrik		#44 Posted : 30 December 2005 03:17:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br /> [:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(] <u>HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP</u> - I accendentially ([:o)]) erased the file: /lib/modules/mcs_adc.ko could anybody email this file to me? Maybe this will teach me to make a backup [B)] Hi, I sure could mail that file to you - if I could only download the #¤%#¤ thing... My ftp won't connect to the CS... [:(] Fredrik.
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prc		#45 Posted : 30 December 2005 04:27:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com <br /> [:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(][:(] <u>HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP</u> - I accendentially ([:o)]) erased the file: /lib/modules/mcs_adc.ko could anybody email this file to me? Maybe this will teach me to make a backup [B)] Yes, it will be later tonight though. Regards
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plavnostruev		#46 Posted : 30 December 2005 07:09:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 756 Location: New Jersey, USA		What a gripping saga! Now, wouldn't tweaking CS void its warranty? I am a UNIX programmer (Linux is a flavor) and I am curious if anyone has insights into how the GUI on CS was done - which technology was used? Also I'd love to see screen shots, as I have developed my own PC control program and I'd like to borrow some ideas [:p] And whatever you guys do, don't run this command: rm -r * [}:)][}:)][}:)] Mike, hoping that Bo would get his file.
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prc		#47 Posted : 30 December 2005 08:12:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com could anybody email this file to me? Maybe this will teach me to make a backup [B)] I just emailed the file to you. let me know if you got it OK. Regards
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prc		#48 Posted : 30 December 2005 08:25:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plavnostruev <br />What a gripping saga! Now, wouldn't tweaking CS void its warranty? I am a UNIX programmer (Linux is a flavor) and I am curious if anyone has insights into how the GUI on CS was done - which technology was used? Also I'd love to see screen shots, as I have developed my own PC control program and I'd like to borrow some ideas [:p] And whatever you guys do, don't run this command: rm -r * [}:)][}:)][}:)] Mike, hoping that Bo would get his file. What does rm -r * do??? Just kidding, although you may entice someone to try it. For you non-UNIX folks, it will delete all files from you present working directory recursively down through all sub-folders. If you do a rm -r / it will delete all files on the CS.[xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(] I believe the GUI is based on the Nano-X API. The Nano-X API was originally designed by David Bell, with his mini-x package for the MINIX operating system. Regards
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plutoodie		#49 Posted : 30 December 2005 09:30:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by plutoodie@hotmail.com could anybody email this file to me? Maybe this will teach me to make a backup [B)] I just emailed the file to you. let me know if you got it OK. Regards Got it and my CS works - jubiiiiiiiiiiiiiii... Thanks - you saved by day! Happy New Year
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plutoodie		#50 Posted : 30 December 2005 09:41:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Abu Dhabi		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by fredsaf <br /> Hi, I sure could mail that file to you - if I could only download the #¤%#¤ thing... My ftp won't connect to the CS... [:(] Fredrik. I never could get FTP to work either, so I used the TFTP protocol instead - you may try the following (at your own risk of goofing up you CS beyond repair): 1. Install Pumpkin TFTP on your Windows PC (found it on http://www.download.com) 2. Use the following command to transfer the file to the PC tftp -p -l &lt;filename&gt; &lt;hostname&gt; You may use an IP-address as hostname. As an example executing "tftp -p -l output.bmp &lt;ip-adr&gt;", while in the /root directory will transfer the output.bmp file. (for some reason the Pumpkin TFTP server reports error if a path is given - probably due to UNIX/Windows pathname conventions )
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