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Loadmaster		#1 Posted : 26 January 2011 01:46:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		I came upon Marklin Exclusiv item 36159. It is a brown Krok but I cannot learn what year it was issued. The box is not the current color combination but has the MHI symbol. I have catalogues from 1990 thru 2010 and it's not listed. Cany anyone assist?? Thanks, Robert
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eduard71		#2 Posted : 26 January 2011 01:52:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 294 Location: Santiago		This model was the Insaider of 1996. Regards Eduardo
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Loadmaster		#3 Posted : 26 January 2011 02:45:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		The Insider model for 1996 was #30159 NOT 36159. Does Marklin use different item numbers in different parts of the world? Robert
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Nielsenr		#4 Posted : 26 January 2011 04:04:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL		I Googled this on the internet. The 30159 was in the 1996/1997 as the Insider model. Apparently in the Insider News 5 / 96 on page 2, Marklin offered it as an upgrade to Insiders with a decoder installed as the 36159. See http://stummi.foren-city...6159.htmloder-36159.html You may also be interested in the write up on http://www.toycollector....ile-.html&Itemid=938 Hope the links work for you ... it is amazing what yopu can find by Googling!! LOL!! Robert
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Loadmaster		#5 Posted : 26 January 2011 05:07:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 898 Location: So Cal		Robert, Thanks for the links. They helped very much except the German one, bummer. Rob
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Nielsenr		#6 Posted : 26 January 2011 06:19:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 883 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL		Thought I gave the translated version of the German one. Just bring up translate.google.com and enter the website ... Robert
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vilithejou		#7 Posted : 26 January 2011 08:07:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 840 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: Loadmaster The Insider model for 1996 was #30159 NOT 36159. Does Marklin use different item numbers in different parts of the world? Robert A lot of Insiders (all of Spanish insiders) says that it's a terrible mistake to do this lok analogue in 1996. Many Märklin Collectors have the new 6021 on their layout and they want to see circulate this lok on the tracks. Märklin accepts to do some quantity of loks with 6080 decoder, but never goes to the katalog. Best regards
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Markus Schild		#8 Posted : 26 January 2011 13:31:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Originally Posted by: vilithejou Märklin accepts to do some quantity of loks with 6080 decoder, but never goes to the katalog. Hi, the decoder used in 36159 was no regular 6080. It was a special "heavy duty" version, which also could be used for 1-gauge locos. Unfortunatly the decoder is not available any more. Regards Markus
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vilithejou		#9 Posted : 26 January 2011 13:36:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 840 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Originally Posted by: vilithejou Märklin accepts to do some quantity of loks with 6080 decoder, but never goes to the katalog. Hi, the decoder used in 36159 was no regular 6080. It was a special "heavy duty" version, which also could be used for 1-gauge locos. Unfortunatly the decoder is not available any more. Regards Markus completly agree But the decoder it be like 6080
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mrmarklin		#10 Posted : 29 January 2011 17:45:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 895 Location: Burney, CA		Originally Posted by: Loadmaster The Insider model for 1996 was #30159 NOT 36159. Does Marklin use different item numbers in different parts of the world? Robert The short answer is yes. There a a lot of loks that Marklin made like this in the earlier days of digital. I own 36159 which AFAIK was not widely publicized. There is also 3622 (BR194) and 3621 (V200), both models which I owned that were the digital counterparts of loks that were never catalogued as digital back in the early days of digital in the late 80s. Dave Pryor
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steventrain		#11 Posted : 29 January 2011 22:38:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		It was two version - 30159 and 36159 made in 1996. The 36159 have digital version (6090) and label sticker 'digital 36159' on 30159 box, The 36159 is a rare item and around 200 Euro more that 30159 value. See picture of 36159.
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Webmaster		#12 Posted : 29 January 2011 23:12:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,161		Originally Posted by: Loadmaster The Insider model for 1996 was #30159 NOT 36159. As I remember, you could choose which version to have as an Insider... I got the 30159... I think there was a certain price difference...
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