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H0		#51 Posted : 16 June 2010 23:37:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		cyberbeast41 wrote: I hope the release date hasn't changed? The Planned Release Dates list for June should be out this week.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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cyberbeast41		#52 Posted : 17 June 2010 00:23:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		I really can't wait.
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steventrain		#53 Posted : 17 June 2010 20:01:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		H0 wrote: cyberbeast41 wrote: I hope the release date hasn't changed? The Planned Release Dates list for June should be out this week. It is out today, Still June, Q3 and Q4. TGV Still stick with Q3. http://mediencms.maerkli...in-Neuheiten_2010-06.pdf
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H0		#54 Posted : 27 June 2010 00:14:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		They show some production pictures on their site (German text only): http://www.maerklin.de/d...ereditionen/tgv-pos.html
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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steventrain		#55 Posted : 27 June 2010 11:55:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		H0 wrote: They show some production pictures on their site (German text only): http://www.maerklin.de/d...ereditionen/tgv-pos.html Thanks for the link, I have already see it last month.
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VT 08.8		#56 Posted : 15 July 2010 13:22:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2006(UTC) Posts: 70 Location: France		Hello, It is now announced with two motor units... still for € 469.95 ! : Modell: 4-teilige Grundgarnitur. Beide Triebköpfe (TK1 und TK2) motorisiert. Mit Digital-Decoder mfx und umfangreichen Geräuschfunktionen. Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb in beiden Triebköpfen, zentral eingebaut. Jeweils 4 Achsen über Kardan angetrieben I'm wondering what will happen with the margin. Edited by user 16 July 2010 13:00:31(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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H0		#57 Posted : 15 July 2010 14:18:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		Hi! They changed the German text in the database. The English and French versions still announce 1 motor.
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cyberbeast41		#58 Posted : 15 July 2010 15:29:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		H0 wrote: Hi! They changed the German text in the database. The English and French versions still announce 1 motor. It's probably a mistake on Marklin Germany's part. It would be very strange that this set suddenly has two engines now. If it would be the case, that would be very fine with me. I'm still wondering what would happen if the engine had to push all those cars. I'm sure it would derail a lot. Do you think this will highten the price? Off-topic: when you enter the Marklin Online Shop, it states that the new yearbook "2007/2008" will be available on december 15 :p
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mike c		#59 Posted : 16 July 2010 05:16:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,902 Location: Montreal, QC		Inside the German brochure http://mediencms.maerklin.de/me...klin_Prospekt_TGV_DE.pdf, the text states: "Modell: 4-teilige Grundgarnitur. 1 Triebkopf (TK1) motorisiert, 1 Triebkopf (TK2) unmotorisiert. Direktsteuerung x x x des ganzen Zuges." "The Model: 4 Unit Basic Set. 1 Power Unit (1) motorized, 1 Power Unit (2) unmotorized..." If they have changed the text on the web page, I wonder which takes precedence. Regards Mike C
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TimR		#60 Posted : 16 July 2010 08:12:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Despite the coolness factor of having two motors; I would prefer that it only has one motor, as opposed to the potential problem of syncrhonization of the two... which in this case has to stay permanently connected to one another. Although if this TGV is equipped with high quality can motor, synchronizing both motors might prove to be easier / more accurate as opposed to that on the Re10/10 package.
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H0		#61 Posted : 16 July 2010 10:13:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		mike c wrote: If they have changed the text on the web page, I wonder which takes precedence. If the change of the German database is meant serious, then we should see the same change in the other languages sooner or later. I don't think it's a joke or an error. Right from the start there were rumours that it would have 2 motors. Re: "Re 10/10" Two motors driven by one decoder are easier to synchronize than two motors with individual decoders. The did that with V 188, F7, Alco PA, VT 11.5.
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H0		#62 Posted : 16 July 2010 10:18:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		cyberbeast41 wrote: Off-topic: when you enter the Marklin Online Shop, it states that the new yearbook "2007/2008" will be available on december 15 :p Maybe not off-topic: the German site says the M* storehouse is moving and no orders will be fulfilled this week. The English shop site shows the German text about the yearbook. The English translation of the German notice is still pending ... ... and there it relates to this thread.
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TimR		#63 Posted : 16 July 2010 15:21:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		H0 wrote: Re: "Re 10/10" Two motors driven by one decoder are easier to synchronize than two motors with individual decoders. The did that with V 188, F7, Alco PA, VT 11.5. My point with Re10/10 was that with two DCM motors working in tandem (no matter they're controlled with one or two decoders), there is a greater chance that one will run out of tune of the other, as opposed to using can motors (not that they are 100% risk free either) As I recalled, some owners of Ae 8/14 have reported problems with one motor pulling faster than the other. It's not "broken" or anything, just the inherrent risk from such designs. I would prefer not having to live with the potential headache. Besides, realistically, does this TGV really need to have two motors? Given a decent motor/drivetrain combination, one should do the trick just fine.
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Goofy		#64 Posted : 18 July 2010 12:59:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,023		TGV will been arrived out only one motor at the end of carriage.
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jeehring		#65 Posted : 18 July 2010 16:19:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		On a French speaking forum, one guy is announcing that there will be some changes : Trix TGV will be with 2 motorized machines - one at each end - which is the reason why delivery will be postponed untill October...(nothing about Marklin - Trix only !) Is it serious news ? ...or the same buzz, same rumour, going all around the worldwide web ....with the internet we never know !(the guy doesn't give any source...)
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H0		#66 Posted : 18 July 2010 23:07:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		The Trix product database says Trix TGV 22364 comes with 2 motors (German text only, English and French version still announce one motor). Same for Märklin 37790. Is it serious? I think so.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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steventrain		#67 Posted : 19 July 2010 00:52:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		Both same from Marklin and Trix database in English said 'Model: Era VI. The train is a 4-part set. It has 1 powered end car (TK1) with a motor and 1 powered end car (TK2) without a motor.' Marklin databse German website said two motors but 2010 New item brochure in German text said one motor. http://catalog.lokshop.de/MAR/2010.News/D/110.jpg I guess there is a error in German database website. You know most Marklin ICEs have only one motor. But let's have to wait and see.
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jeehring		#68 Posted : 19 July 2010 03:39:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Which is possible : Marklin made some tests and they have decided 2 motorized units is a better solution for better running of the whole train... If true, it is not necessarily a problem for them.... -Instead of producing two different A-units - one motorized, another one "dummy" meanning 2 different references of production - they have now to produce only 1 type of A-unit (a single reference) Example : if they initially planned to produce 4000 TGV, they had to produce 4000 motorized units + another 4000 A-units with different boggies & no motor. Now they have to produce 8000 motorized units instead of 4000. Consequently production costs for each motorized unit could be reduced .... But, they probably have to invest into electronics (more powerful) + different wiring (more complicated)+ different electric line & connections... costs and prices will not change, or not much or very little... Edited by user 19 July 2010 15:40:10(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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H0		#69 Posted : 20 July 2010 00:05:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		jeehring wrote: if they initially planned to produce 4000 TGV, they had to produce 4000 motorized units + another 4000 A-units with different boggies & no motor. Why different bogies? Some M* trains look like they have same bogies, but one w/o cogwheels. Leaving away the cogwheels should be cheaper than installing a motor ...
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jeehring		#70 Posted : 20 July 2010 12:45:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		H0 wrote: jeehring wrote: if they initially planned to produce 4000 TGV, they had to produce 4000 motorized units + another 4000 A-units with different boggies & no motor. Why different bogies? Some M* trains look like they have same bogies, but one w/o cogwheels. Yes you're right about some rare heavy loks with dummy unit... or short trains. In some case it works correctly , most of the time we are not exactly in same configuration as a TGV... TGV model configuration is quite rare. Despite very different coaches , only the ICE 1 model train has almost similar configuration with one "motorized end unit". Most of the time, long reversible trains have double motorized units or intermediate motorized coach... Otherwise there are "shorter trains"... ...as a matter of fact I was talking in terms of industrial production as well,but my English is too "short" to be clear... I was thinking about "reference number issues" : the management of different reference numbers is....expensive . An axle without cogwheels = different reference number. A boggie without cogwheels = different reference number. A non-motorized end-unit = another different reference number, etc...etc...(
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cyberbeast41		#71 Posted : 23 July 2010 13:55:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		I wonder what sounds will be on it.
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SINCrazee		#72 Posted : 24 July 2010 08:17:00(UTC) Retweet
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Dan		#73 Posted : 01 August 2010 12:46:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 13 Location: Earls Barton, Northamptonsire		Just a thought on the new TGV model. My guess is that Marklin will add details to the TGV to make it as a Swiss version. Because the tgv pos is perhaps a tester for its fans to gauge interest and then allow tooling changes for the thalys sets and the SBB version although these look like small changes! I am a SNCF Marklin fan but i will wait for a Thalys set as my layout is based in Northern France! If any ones interested in seeing TGVs at full line speed visit my web site it has some clips and DVDs on french railways. www.tunnel-vision.com
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cyberbeast41		#74 Posted : 02 August 2010 00:03:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		I don't think this clip was posted before. I've seen it a while back but wasn't able to find it again. It's a movie of a riding prototype. TGV POS Prototype
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klarinettmeister		#75 Posted : 02 August 2010 14:32:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 799 Location: Kirseberg		cyberbeast41 wrote: I don't think this clip was posted before. I've seen it a while back but wasn't able to find it again. It's a movie of a riding prototype. TGV POS Prototype Really nice clip! I´ve seen it before. Guess what! I´ve got an answer from Märklin Service right now! "Das Modell des TGV wird in der Serienversion mit 2 Motoren ausgestattet sein." As a sidenote I also asked about swedish passengercars in black delievery. They weren´t allowed to say anything. But they didn´t say they were not going to produce them. So TGV will have 2 motors. The german site is correct! Now I want that and of course a layout to house it on!! /David
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mascagni		#76 Posted : 09 August 2010 23:51:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		Hi: In the Maerklin TV - Episode 11 dated August 6, 2010 (only available in German as of now), they have a piece on the new TGV. In it, Maerklin's Andreas Schumann (Leitung Konstruktion) says that the TGV will have 2 motors. This settles the issue for me.--MM
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H0		#77 Posted : 10 August 2010 00:05:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,271 Location: DE-NW		mascagni wrote: In it, Maerklin's Andreas Schumann (Leitung Konstruktion) says that the TGV will have 2 motors. This settles the issue for me. They also wrote it in the Insider Club News 4/2010, released July 28. https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=16658 While the English database text is still not updated, there is no reason to doubt that there are two motors in that train.
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cyberbeast41		#78 Posted : 13 August 2010 12:20:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		According to some reports, delivery of the TGV has begun. The thing about the two motors: someone of a dutch forum send Marklin an e-mail asking for this, Marklin confirmed: 2 engines.
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Davy		#79 Posted : 14 August 2010 01:49:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		Marklin TGV prototype on Youtube.
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3015		#80 Posted : 24 August 2010 04:23:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/06/2008(UTC) Posts: 3 Location: ,		jeehring wrote: river6109 wrote: jeehring wrote: some pictures here , scroll down a little, this is a retailer website, update April 10: http://railway.fr/ Roland, Part of the TGV, this is an interesting website with numberous locos (SNCF Panorama Railcar) and carriages. John I agree about the Panorama Railcar . It will be produced by "Mistral Train" who is a serious manufacturer. (Much more serious than LS Model/LSM). It's plastic but engraving & moulding are fine. Like Marklin : motorized items are delivered with full digital and interior lighting (factory installed electronics) for 3 rails and 2 rails. They also have good quality motorization (in contrast to LSM). Have a look on a pre-serial model: Hi all Not sure about how serous Mistral is compared to LS: they had huge tech problems on last diesel locomotive!!
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cyberbeast41		#81 Posted : 24 August 2010 15:56:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		Apparently, Marklin is also working on a Thalys.
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jeehring		#82 Posted : 31 August 2010 17:58:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		3015 wrote: jeehring wrote: river6109 wrote: jeehring wrote: some fr/ Hi all Not sure about how serous Mistral is compared to LS: they had huge tech problems on last diesel locomotive!! True !...but it was with the first production batch....They immediately have stopped to deliver it to rectify faulty mechanical parts...Few months later it was fully rectified & available again... They work into a completely different spirit....LS Model have made economical choice while Mistral makes a more qualitative choice... LSM : they add 2 or 3 differently colored parts of interior settings : I can't say it's a real & important improvement ( specially when made in China by low cost workers...)I like to paint myself interior details, as well..... This gives very nice pictures on Internet as long as you don't use them , but....making them rolling in normal conditions every week on an average layout....often becomes a nightmare. On French forums (France is their main market...), you will find more & more complains about it, more and more customers are getting fed up with poor rolling quality of most of their coaches . LSM was just lucky : a big part of people doesn't roll and keeps models on display or...into a box, just for collection while some of them are editing very nice close up pictures on internet...When looking at it on a screen, people could say " Wow "..... Return to reality....the real thing is somewhat different ... Edited by user 02 September 2010 04:31:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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jeehring		#83 Posted : 31 August 2010 18:08:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		If you understand a little bit of French, you may have a look here (it's a recently opened topic , contributors are from very varied MRR backgrounds, all of them have several LSM items..."dreadful behaviour.... resistance in rolling....awful coupler displacement mechanism...etc...etc..." - quite a long list - ...Besides this, they are admitting that external look is OK, details and global engraving are fine....): http://www.rmf-magazine....um/viewtopic.php?id=5817
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VT 08.8		#84 Posted : 01 September 2010 18:36:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2006(UTC) Posts: 70 Location: France		Hi TGV delivery begins today in France
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steventrain		#85 Posted : 02 September 2010 20:05:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		VT 08.8 wrote: Hi TGV delivery begins today in France Au Pullman got delivery of TGV today.
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cyberbeast41		#86 Posted : 02 September 2010 22:17:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		TGV PicturesTwo clips of the model can be seen on Youtube: TGV Clip 1 TGV Clip 2 It looks amazing! Update: here's another link with lots of pictures...
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husson73		#87 Posted : 03 September 2010 18:41:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 105 Location: Paris - France		I confirm, got a call from Le Pullman yesterday: only the basic unit yet.
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husson73		#88 Posted : 04 September 2010 20:56:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 105 Location: Paris - France		got it today at Le Pullman. Plastic except under frame from the locomotives and cars which is metal. according to the weigh of each loc and the operating instructions (usuer manual), each loc has a motor. Will try it and picturing bye bye
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seatrains		#89 Posted : 04 September 2010 22:25:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 669 Location: Shoreline, WA		Wow, good news and each lok has a motor!! This thing should really fly!! I wonder what kind of scale speed you could achieve with the 4 car set!!
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jeehring		#90 Posted : 04 September 2010 22:30:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Husson : good news, specially about metal underframe for coaches ! Do you know if all coaches have metal underframe or...coaches N° 1 and Coach N°8 only ? However metal frame on locomotives and coaches 1 & 8 + 2 motors....to the whole train should give very good driving characteristics and stability...
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steventrain		#91 Posted : 05 September 2010 14:39:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		cyberbeast41 wrote: TGV PicturesTwo clips of the model can be seen on Youtube: TGV Clip 1 TGV Clip 2 It looks amazing! Update: here's another link with lots of pictures... Excellent, Thanks for the link.
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jeehring		#92 Posted : 05 September 2010 15:33:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		...First comments on a French forum, it is said a 8 pins connector between coaches all along the train....+ very good mechanical coupling system ( soft & easy to handle...)...+ nice interior settings...
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husson73		#93 Posted : 05 September 2010 17:58:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 105 Location: Paris - France		correction metal underframe inside is just on the two locomotives, the coachs have plastic underframe with weigh inside, ride very good and fast, hadn't using on R1 R2 yet.
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klarinettmeister		#94 Posted : 07 September 2010 12:40:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 799 Location: Kirseberg		I want to see pictures from inside the loco. What kind of motor?
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jeehring		#95 Posted : 07 September 2010 17:35:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		....I bet on a classical can motor from Maxxon...or Buhler...may be coreless motor....?
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husson73		#96 Posted : 07 September 2010 20:52:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/05/2010(UTC) Posts: 105 Location: Paris - France		You can see a bad picture from inside here: http://web.lerelaisinter...lin_et_trix.htm#MACHINES was thinking take pictures of mine from the inside but was afraid to break the plastic body. Had take pictures of the TGV running but are so bad that I don't dare to put here too bad (really difficult to take a god picture with my small camera of a so long train).
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klarinettmeister		#97 Posted : 08 September 2010 00:01:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 799 Location: Kirseberg		husson73 wrote: You can see a bad picture from inside here: http://web.lerelaisinter...lin_et_trix.htm#MACHINES was thinking take pictures of mine from the inside but was afraid to break the plastic body. Had take pictures of the TGV running but are so bad that I don't dare to put here too bad (really difficult to take a god picture with my small camera of a so long train). Thanks! It looks just like the motor that´s inside my ICE3 and the Big Boys but with an extra flywheel. Actually it dosen´t seem very expensive with 2 motors. Propably the pricing has been divided into the immediate cars... I guess the article is interesting but I don´t understand french, so if someone could sum up what it says I would appreciate that. :-)
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TimR		#98 Posted : 08 September 2010 02:48:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		husson73 wrote: You can see a bad picture from inside here: http://web.lerelaisinter...lin_et_trix.htm#MACHINES Looks like one of the can motors that they've put in the latest Trix BR120 (T22603) or a variant of thereof. Can't really be sure though, as the online sparepart database for 37790 is still only partially completed. It should be considerably cheaper as opposed to Maxon coreless.
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jeehring		#99 Posted : 08 September 2010 03:25:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		klarinettmeister wrote: husson73 wrote: You can see a bad picture from inside here: http://web.lerelaisinter...lin_et_trix.htm#MACHINES was thinking take pictures of mine from the inside but was afraid to break the plastic body. Had take pictures of the TGV running but are so bad that I don't dare to put here too bad (really difficult to take a god picture with my small camera of a so long train). Thanks! It looks just like the motor that´s inside my ICE3 and the Big Boys but with an extra flywheel. Actually it dosen´t seem very expensive with 2 motors. Propably the pricing has been divided into the immediate cars... I guess the article is interesting but I don´t understand french, so if someone could sum up what it says I would appreciate that. :-) The article is not so interesting...It's just a translation of an extract of a MARKLIN INSIDER article (not complete)....about the advantages of " 2 motors instead of one "....they compare it to the "powerful real TGV"....so the model also must be "powerful" + ..... two motors give "smoother acceleration"...Also some "bla bla bla" about the TGV as "a symbol of speed world record on rail"..That's all (nothing special about characteristics of motors...nothing about technology..) And the writer/translator is not so good in French (many "faulty constructions"...)....
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TimR		#100 Posted : 08 September 2010 05:12:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		jeehring wrote: That's all (nothing special about characteristics of motors...nothing about technology..) Well, I don't think there is really anything to brag about with this motor, technologically .. It's more than likely is a low-cost 5-pole can motor; but it should provide a good, smooth running characteristics.
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