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river6109		#1 Posted : 03 January 2010 15:52:13(UTC) Retweet
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steventrain		#2 Posted : 03 January 2010 16:55:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		I have heard from Au Pullman and price will be around 450 euro for 4-car set.
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mmervine		#3 Posted : 03 January 2010 17:44:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		Wonder which body style? Atlantique/Reseau/Thalys-1 or POS/Thays-2?
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RMW		#4 Posted : 03 January 2010 17:45:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 574 Location: The Netherlands		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />Wonder which body style? Atlantique/Reseau/Thalys-1 or POS/Thays-2? Thalys would be very nice. RMW
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RMW		#5 Posted : 03 January 2010 18:16:41(UTC) Retweet
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mmervine		#6 Posted : 03 January 2010 18:34:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		TGV POS is good. That means that they can do a Thalys-2 (PBKA) with only a change of paint!
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fvri		#7 Posted : 03 January 2010 19:26:31(UTC) Retweet
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TimR		#8 Posted : 04 January 2010 03:39:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine <br />TGV POS is good. That means that they can do a Thalys-2 (PBKA) with only a change of paint! OR they can as easily do the sole example of the unit owned by SBB/CFF/FFS.
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mascagni		#9 Posted : 04 January 2010 17:17:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 826 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA		I agree that a Märklin TGV would be good. I do want to mention that the 3-rail Mehano TGVs are all very nice as well, and I have the Thalys and the Duplex versions of these. I would welcome comparisons when the new Märklin versions come out!!--MM
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tekin65		#10 Posted : 04 January 2010 17:19:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR <br />they can as easily do the sole example of the unit owned by SBB/CFF/FFS. That'd be superb Do we know if it's going to be metal or plastic? Cem.
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mike c		#11 Posted : 04 January 2010 21:28:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,912 Location: Montreal, QC		Here is the first official information from one of the Maerklin distributors (Holland) about the new TGV POS model. http://www.marklin.nl/nieuws/tres-grande-vitesse I will wait to see more detailed photos of the actual model, but am pretty sure that it will be nicer than the old Lima, Jouef and Mehano models. Hopefully the model will represent a model that can be found on French, German and Swiss rails, complete with all pantographs and features for those routes. Regards Mike C
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VT 08.8		#12 Posted : 04 January 2010 22:00:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2006(UTC) Posts: 70 Location: France		Delirium on French Märklin forum : http://www.3rails-forum.org/portal.htm
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Armando		#13 Posted : 05 January 2010 22:33:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,352 Location: Houston, Texas		Well, I only hope that this TGV will INDEED be made to the correct H0 scale (1:87) and won't come with any movable "skirts".
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mike c		#14 Posted : 06 January 2010 00:21:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,912 Location: Montreal, QC		With the Jacobs Bogies, I doubt that there will be any problem with the connections between coaches. The only possible problem will be between the motor units and the first and last coach, as these are equipped with normal bogies and normal connections on the prototype. How Maerklin will render this is not yet clear. The photo on the Maerklin.nl site does not show much detail in this regard and is only a sample photo. Regards, Mike C
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Davy		#15 Posted : 09 January 2010 02:23:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		My gues they use the same connectors as for the Koploper.
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H0		#16 Posted : 09 January 2010 14:48:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,277 Location: DE-NW		mike c wrote: The only possible problem will be between the motor units and the first and last coach, as these are equipped with normal bogies and normal connections on the prototype. How Maerklin will render this is not yet clear. This is clear now. Today I received DER MODELLEISENBAHNER with a Märklin ad for the TGV. Motor unit and first coach have a fixed connection. One motor unit has four powered axles (so I presume there are plastic "toothpicks" inside (as John calls them)). Units come with interior lights. They don't mention metal (except for the handrails), so I presume TGV has a plastic case. No word about the motor (but the number 37790 indicates it's not a SDS). They mention that it's prototypical length.
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VT 08.8		#17 Posted : 09 January 2010 18:50:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2006(UTC) Posts: 70 Location: France		Hi Tom, From an important french dealer 37790 has metal motor and dummy units, a 5 poles motor, and a 12 functions MFX decoder : http://www.3rails-forum....in-37790-t2980.htm#43596 Regards
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Pavle		#18 Posted : 09 January 2010 20:00:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 206 Location: Netherlands		I believe the prototype is some 200 meter long, so the full 10-part model in true 1:87 would be about 230 cm! Very nice long train. I want it! And if they bring the Thalys-version in 2011, I want that too (oh boy, need more budget). But I guess the model has one motorised unit, correct? Would that mean running in one direction only? Peter
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H0		#19 Posted : 09 January 2010 21:01:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,277 Location: DE-NW		Pavle wrote: But I guess the model has one motorised unit, correct? Would that mean running in one direction only? No. When running digital you will be able to change the direction. Just kidding: will also work in analog mode. Pickup show in the leading motor unit is used - even if it's the dummy unit.
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tekin65		#20 Posted : 09 January 2010 21:34:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Hi, Complete train 2.3 meters long and one DCM motor; so plastic body ... not exactly my dream train ... will pass on this one. May buy the SBB version if it ever comes out with a sensible price tag. Cem.
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H0		#21 Posted : 09 January 2010 22:46:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,277 Location: DE-NW		tekin65 wrote: Complete train 2.3 meters long and one DCM motor; so plastic body ... Somebody in France heard from his French dealer that motor units are metal. I guess DCM is pure speculation now (a DCM loco with 4 powered axles? we ne'er had that from M*). I presume there'll be a non-DCM non SDS motor in it. Make your decision when it shows up in M*'s product database or new items brochure. Then there'll be more dealers with pre-order prices, too. I wait for the Thalys livery (and avoid the toothing problems).
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tekin65		#22 Posted : 09 January 2010 22:50:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		H0 wrote: I guess DCM is pure speculation now (a DCM loco with 4 powered axles? we ne'er had that from M*). Yes Tom you're right, my fault. Must be Maxxon or something similar. Cem.
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TimR		#23 Posted : 09 January 2010 23:00:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Considering the price, I think this model will come with the same setup as the cancelled Trix ICE-1. By "5-pole motor"; it means the new can motor used on recent Trix models or a variant of it; application can also be found on M* 37308/37309. If this model comes with full sound and interior lighting; wow, what a bargain! Compare it to the price of the current Marklin ICE-3..
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cyberbeast41		#24 Posted : 10 January 2010 12:05:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		The locomoties are full metal. Both locomotives will have a motor in them. And you can already buy them for 360 euro from a famous german seller. That's a much better price tag than 470 euro. The sets with two will cost you 104 euro, instead of the hefty 140 euro.
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TimR		#25 Posted : 10 January 2010 12:38:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Rumours have been around for a while now that at least the motor unit will be made of metal; but I'm still a bit skeptical. Obviously with a high speed train model, design consideration would be prioritized to achieve what the prototype does best; to achieve high speed. So overall, the train needs to be quite lightweight; excepting the end units. Secondly; as with the ICE models; the TGV will not be expected to haul any significant loads beyond its consist. So a very heavy motor unit (for tractive effort) is not really necessary for decent running.. And of course, there are cost implication to consider. High speed trainset forced buyers to get at least a minimum consist of say, 3 to 5 units in one set. It means price would naturally be quite premium compared to the rest of the range, and metal body would add a lot to that basic price. Look at the current pricing for both ICE3s in Marklin and Trix range.. and they only come with sound modules! The prices for the TGV we're seeing now simply says something gotta give; between the metal body of the motor unit, MFX Loksound, and interior lighting.. In saying that... I'd be very happy if the motor unit would indeed come with a metal body.. Hats off for Marklin if they managed to squeeze all the above in this package for the given price..
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H0		#26 Posted : 10 January 2010 13:35:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,277 Location: DE-NW		cyberbeast41 wrote: Both locomotives will have a motor in them. That contradicts the Märklin ad in DER MODELLEISENBAHNER. They explicitly say that one motor unit is not motorized.
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cyberbeast41		#27 Posted : 11 January 2010 20:55:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		H0 wrote: cyberbeast41 wrote: Both locomotives will have a motor in them. That contradicts the Märklin ad in DER MODELLEISENBAHNER. They explicitly say that one motor unit is not motorized. Yes, you're right. I read it now too. Apperently, the message saying the TGV would have two engines is faulty. I do wonder if you can ride it both ways then? Isn't it going to derail when the locomotive is pushing and the non-motor locomotive is in front?
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TimR		#28 Posted : 11 January 2010 21:35:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		cyberbeast41 wrote: I do wonder if you can ride it both ways then? Isn't it going to derail when the locomotive is pushing and the non-motor locomotive is in front? No. With the ICE models, Marklin usually put a metal ballast on the non-powered motor unit to keep it stable in push-mode. I reckoned this will the same in the new TGV. I think only M* RAM TEE have a problem with that.. From the latest description, I think it can be concluded that the motor unit is going to be plastic body and metal frame. Reason is simple; cost.. Having the powered unit in metal and the non-powered one in plastic is no go either -as this would mean that Marklin had to develop two seperate casting for the same motor unit (even more expensive!).
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Pavle		#29 Posted : 12 January 2010 02:14:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 206 Location: Netherlands		TimR wrote: cyberbeast41 wrote: I do wonder if you can ride it both ways then? Isn't it going to derail when the locomotive is pushing and the non-motor locomotive is in front? No. With the ICE models, Marklin usually put a metal ballast on the non-powered motor unit to keep it stable in push-mode. I reckoned this will the same in the new TGV. Sure about that? ICE has the motorised unit in the middle of the train, so it pushes only 3 or 4 coaches. This TGV will have to push the full 2.30 meter. Does not sound comfortable... Peter
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TimR		#30 Posted : 12 January 2010 02:42:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Pavle wrote: Sure about that? ICE has the motorised unit in the middle of the train, so it pushes only 3 or 4 coaches. This TGV will have to push the full 2.30 meter. Does not sound comfortable... Peter Hi Peter, As we know, Marklin had made plenty of screw ups before... guess we can't really be 100% sure until we see the first test reviews. If they do manage to make a TGV that derails on push mode, just as well they didn't seem to learn from their previous mistakes. Right now I'm not overly concern though, but who knows?
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RMW		#31 Posted : 14 January 2010 11:36:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 574 Location: The Netherlands		Information of "Oude Station" (Dutch): 37990 TGV POS SNCF 4-delig. Prijs: 469,95 Complete nieuwe constructie in schaal 1:87, 4 delige basisset die uitbreidbaar is met de sets 43420 en 43430 en 43440, 5 polige motor met vliegwiel (= with flywheel), Mfx decoder met volledige sound (= Full Sound), v.v. binnenverlichting (= interior lighting), correcte lichtwisseling met warmwitte LEDs (= warm white LED's), gedeeltelijk in metaal uitgevoerd. Minimale boogstraal 360 mm RMW
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Steamer01		#32 Posted : 25 January 2010 23:37:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 151 Location: The Netherlands		H0 wrote: Somebody in France heard from his French dealer that motor units are metal. I guess DCM is pure speculation now (a DCM loco with 4 powered axles? we ne'er had that from M*). I presume there'll be a non-DCM non SDS motor in it. Make your decision when it shows up in M*'s product database or new items brochure. Then there'll be more dealers with pre-order prices, too. I wait for the Thalys livery (and avoid the toothing problems). Hello, Now it is clear. The body will be made of plastic, but the motor unit will have a heavy weight through metal lay-in units. Märklin has answered the question today. It will be a wonderful model. Steamer 01
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old toot		#33 Posted : 26 January 2010 06:43:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 498 Location: christchurch, canterbury		well considering the recently produced swiss mouse has metal body which they were happy to make lets see what they put on show at the show next weekend so presume someone from the net is going to be there and report back. and all the speculation can be put to rest.
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jeehring		#34 Posted : 10 April 2010 16:46:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		some pictures here , scroll down a little, this is a retailer website, update April 10: http://railway.fr/
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river6109		#35 Posted : 10 April 2010 17:49:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,747 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		jeehring wrote: some pictures here , scroll down a little, this is a retailer website, update April 10: http://railway.fr/ Roland, Part of the TGV, this is an interesting website with numberous locos (SNCF Panorama Railcar) and carriages. John
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jeehring		#36 Posted : 11 April 2010 18:14:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		river6109 wrote: jeehring wrote: some pictures here , scroll down a little, this is a retailer website, update April 10: http://railway.fr/ Roland, Part of the TGV, this is an interesting website with numberous locos (SNCF Panorama Railcar) and carriages. John This retailer is at Lisieux, Normandie about 40 Km east of Caen, he is well known in France. He runs a toy & models shop. It's OK for people interested in French Railways. If you are not in a hurry he probably can provide many things else .... Each year he is editing his own train shop catalogue ( he sells it) He is known as an incredible grouch !( which is the reason why he is well known...) He has a tremendous knowledge of French Railroad and French train model ingeneral. Found of railways, he likes to drive himself some old steamer... Rarely he also produce limited run of handy craft kits... Prices are not so competitivebut people appreciate his knowledge about model making ( as usual customer one can get some discount...If he is in a good mood, we can discuss...)
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jeehring		#37 Posted : 19 April 2010 02:13:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		river6109 wrote: jeehring wrote: some pictures here , scroll down a little, this is a retailer website, update April 10: http://railway.fr/ Roland, Part of the TGV, this is an interesting website with numberous locos (SNCF Panorama Railcar) and carriages. John I agree about the Panorama Railcar . It will be produced by "Mistral Train" who is a serious manufacturer. (Much more serious than LS Model/LSM). It's plastic but engraving & moulding are fine. Like Marklin : motorized items are delivered with full digital and interior lighting (factory installed electronics) for 3 rails and 2 rails. They also have good quality motorization (in contrast to LSM). Have a look on a pre-serial model:
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jeehring		#38 Posted : 04 May 2010 17:52:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		here some pictures of "handmuster"/ prototype only for behaviour & endurance tests (without painting, without all details,) brought to the shop by Marklin sales representative for demo.... http://www.rmfmagazine.c...um/viewtopic.php?id=5645 (scroll down, you'll see it on track. It is said very smooth and the 2 machines at each end quite heavy despite their plastic body...)
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steventrain		#39 Posted : 04 May 2010 19:05:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks for the link.
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cyberbeast41		#40 Posted : 08 May 2010 11:36:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		Is there a fixed release date for the TGV? How much do you guys thinks it will be postponed? Until after summer? Just before Christmas?
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H0		#41 Posted : 08 May 2010 12:40:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,277 Location: DE-NW		cyberbeast41 wrote: Is there a fixed release date for the TGV? The current release date list (from the Ides of April) lists TGV in June, extension sets in Q3 and Q4. New list coming around the Ides of May. April list: http://mediencms.maerkli...in-Neuheiten_2010-04.pdf As always: this is the earliest availability - not all orders will be fulfilled with the first batch. A six-piece train should be there long before Xmas - maybe even the full 10-piece train. Märklin never makes fixed dates, postponements are quite common.
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TimR		#42 Posted : 08 May 2010 17:43:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		jeehring wrote: here some pictures of "handmuster"/ prototype only for behaviour & endurance tests (without painting, without all details,) brought to the shop by Marklin sales representative for demo.... http://www.rmfmagazine.c...um/viewtopic.php?id=5645 (scroll down, you'll see it on track. It is said very smooth and the 2 machines at each end quite heavy despite their plastic body...) It looks very good! It seems very well detailed at this stage, the permanent coupling between the motor end and the transition coach seems to be quite nicely done too..
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steventrain		#43 Posted : 10 May 2010 17:52:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		cyberbeast41 wrote: Is there a fixed release date for the TGV? How much do you guys thinks it will be postponed? Until after summer? Just before Christmas? Have you check here? https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=11739
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cyberbeast41		#44 Posted : 12 May 2010 15:11:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		steventrain wrote: cyberbeast41 wrote: Is there a fixed release date for the TGV? How much do you guys thinks it will be postponed? Until after summer? Just before Christmas? Have you check here? https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=11739 I have, but there are 30 days in June ;) I'm on a vacation in June, maybe I can pick it up when I'm back.
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steventrain		#45 Posted : 12 May 2010 21:33:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,610 Location: United Kingdom		Update - Marklin TGV delivery is now date back to Q3.
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RMW		#46 Posted : 12 May 2010 21:50:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 574 Location: The Netherlands		New pictures ("Es wird bunt") of the TGV, see: Märklin.de. RMW
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Hemmerich		#47 Posted : 19 May 2010 00:25:54(UTC) Retweet
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nevw		#48 Posted : 19 May 2010 02:25:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Hemmerich wrote: steventrain wrote: Update - Marklin TGV delivery is now date back to Q3. Changed from 30.06. to 01.07. Very Clear Information Lutz, Congratulations. Can you verify the Source.
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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cyberbeast41		#49 Posted : 16 June 2010 22:45:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 83 Location: ,		Is there any news on the TGV? I hope the release date hasn't changed? Hope to get it when I'm back from my trip.
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VT 08.8		#50 Posted : 16 June 2010 23:10:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2006(UTC) Posts: 70 Location: France		It will be shown at Paris "Mondial du Modélisme" on june 17-20 : http://www.mondial-modelisme.com/news.html Scroll down to Märklin ad Märk
		Regards Märc
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