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nilkram58		#1 Posted : 06 May 2011 12:30:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 158 Location: Athens, Greece		Hi to all, the shown below wagon was purchased from a seller in Ebay long time ago, by a member of our local Marklin Club, here in Athens, and I wonder if there was ever any such model produced my Marklin, or, it is totally hand made by some enthusiast modeller ?? Thanks a lot in advance, Akis
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Markus Schild		#2 Posted : 06 May 2011 23:50:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Hi Akis, This is the base-plate of a Märklin 4514 car, loaded with parts of the chassis of an unlucky KLEINBAHN class 52. The Märklin-car: The KLEINBAHN-loco: Picture taken from: http://www.kleinbahn.com/prod_dampf.htm Compare the wheels. Regards Markus
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Yumgui		#3 Posted : 07 May 2011 00:13:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		LOL ... nice way to revive a wreck This gives me a few ideas ... Thx ! Yum
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foumaro		#4 Posted : 07 May 2011 05:58:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		The ownwer of this strange car is me.I bought it on ebay from a very good austrian seller with other three 4516 marklin cars and a br 23 23014 all in perfect condition.This strange car is the same as the 4516 but without the little iron bars those are fitted on the car.Maybe that helps to find an answer to this problem.Thank you for your help.
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igf2		#5 Posted : 07 May 2011 08:55:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/04/2010(UTC) Posts: 268 Location: France		Hi Does it look like it could be a further wreck version of this item : The reference was 392 until 1950 and then became #4516...
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Markus Schild		#6 Posted : 07 May 2011 10:03:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Originally Posted by: foumaro The ownwer of this strange car is me.I bought it on ebay from a very good austrian seller with other three 4516 marklin cars and a br 23 23014 all in perfect condition.This strange car is the same as the 4516 but without the little iron bars those are fitted on the car.Maybe that helps to find an answer to this problem.Thank you for your help. Hi, The chassis of 4516 and 4514 are nearly identical. But the plate of 4516 hasn't these holes which are used to fix the loco on the photo. Originally used to fix the plastic-body of the car. Regards Markus
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foumaro		#7 Posted : 07 May 2011 16:40:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		I think Markus you solve the problem,thank you very much.
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foumaro		#8 Posted : 07 May 2011 18:36:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Maybe this thread have to be on the quiz section,anyway congratulations to Markus again.
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nilkram58		#9 Posted : 07 May 2011 18:48:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 158 Location: Athens, Greece		Thanks to all, and congratulations from me also to Markus for solving the problem!!! Especially the correct identification of the carriage, as well as, the Kleinbahn loco chassis !! So, it is finally, as we suspected, a private prototypical composition, and yes, Yum, a nice idea on how to recycle old locos !!! Thanks to everybody, and especially to Markus! Akis
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