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Offline Joseph Meiring  
#1 Posted : 07 August 2010 18:11:04(UTC)
Joseph Meiring

South Africa   
Joined: 27/12/2009(UTC)
Posts: 1,157
Location: Western Cape Cape Town
I'm back! After some chronic illnesses and hospitalization and various operations, I seem to be OK again! I SO missed the forum!
Anyway, I finally got my 3309 (serial numb E74038, what does that make it, 1983/85??, in the blue clear plastic box); My question: How exactly does the the "smoke set" work. Mine worked once or twice and then simply stopped smoking. I cleaned the little flue with a needle, and bought new M smoke oil, but to no avail. I see there is a little brass tab just above the front globe - is this supposed to get warm, and then heat the oil? - I did notice that when working the telex coupling a few times (the front coupler seems to stick in the up position at times), all of a sudden there was a spurt of smoke! I am told that all the oil must be "used up", otherwise it gets "hard"? How is one supposed to clean it out?
Lots of questions, hope someone can help....otherwise it runs well, and is in very good condition.....
its good to be back folks!!
M track Joe
Offline Ian555  
#2 Posted : 07 August 2010 18:15:05(UTC)
Ian555

Scotland   
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Posts: 20,104
Location: Scotland
Hi Joe,

Good to have you back mate.ThumpUp

Ian.
Offline river6109  
#3 Posted : 07 August 2010 20:02:11(UTC)
river6109

Australia   
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC)
Posts: 13,962
Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
Joe,
Good to hear you've got your health back.
3309 smoke unit:
several things can go wrong with this.
a.) contact from the smoke unit to the chassis chimney.
b.) underneath the smoke unit there is a contact wire, use a fine file or nailfile and go over once and take off any corrosion
c.) the little brass tab could also have a little clean.What I do, put solder on it. make sure it is bent up enough to have contact with the smokeunit.

The telex coupling is a hard one and not easy to fix. Unless you know what your doing you could to more harm than good.
the only thing I can recommend, take both apart and observe the angle and everything elsre on the one that works and than look at the one that sticks and see if you can see anything different, especially the arm that lifts up when the solenoid is activated.
It almost works like a seesaw, iot gets lifted when the solenoid is activated and droppes when the solendoid is turned off. if that arm is not absolutely straight, the arm does'nt fall back down.

John

https://www.youtube.com/river6109
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5 years in Destruction mode
50 years in Repairing mode
Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 07 August 2010 20:16:44(UTC)
RayF

Gibraltar   
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Posts: 15,796
Location: Gibraltar, Europe
Hi Joe,

Glad to see you're feeling better. Welcome back!
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 07 August 2010 20:33:15(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 31,465
Location: United Kingdom
Hi Joe, Good to see you well.Smile

3309 in plastic window box date 1982-1985

Running number 85 007.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 07 August 2010 20:40:03(UTC)
steventrain

United Kingdom   
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Posts: 31,465
Location: United Kingdom
Joe Meiring wrote:


I finally got my 3309 (serial numb E74038, what does that make it, 1983/85?



See information on serial number topic here https://www.marklin-user...aspx?g=posts&t=14737
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline Webmaster  
#7 Posted : 08 August 2010 00:28:33(UTC)
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Should be 1987, then... Looked at my 3308 which was also delivered in that clear/blue plastic box and it seems to be from 1985 with a serial number starting with E5...

I have not seen any other locos but the 3308 & 3309 packaged in this kind of box, so I wonder if there are any other 80's models that were sold with this (rather flimsy, I must say..) packaging?
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Old Chinese Proverb]
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#8 Posted : 08 August 2010 04:14:24(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

New Zealand   
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Posts: 18,390
Location: New Zealand
Welcome back Joe.
Offline nevw  
#9 Posted : 08 August 2010 05:49:34(UTC)
nevw

Australia   
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC)
Posts: 11,064
Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
Pleased to hear that you are well Joe.

REcently I was having problems with Telex and Smoke.
I did a factory reset of the decoder. all problems went away.

Nev
wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline applor  
#10 Posted : 08 August 2010 08:48:29(UTC)
applor

Australia   
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Posts: 1,531
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If only someone made the BR85 in era3a :(
modelling 1954 Germany (era IIIa)
Offline Joseph Meiring  
#11 Posted : 15 August 2010 22:02:29(UTC)
Joseph Meiring

South Africa   
Joined: 27/12/2009(UTC)
Posts: 1,157
Location: Western Cape Cape Town
thanks everyone for the good wishes! Much appreciated....I have decided to let the experts look at the probs with the 3309 telex coupler and smoke issues, and so sent it off to the dealers....could end up with more hassles if I start to scratch where I shouldn't!!
m track Joe
Offline Munich 1860  
#12 Posted : 20 August 2010 03:41:56(UTC)
Munich 1860

Germany   
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Posts: 1,053
Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria
Webmaster wrote:

I have not seen any other locos but the 3308 & 3309 packaged in this kind of box, so I wonder if there are any other 80's models that were sold with this (rather flimsy, I must say..) packaging?
Hi Juhan,

no other lokos in the plastic packaging, just those two ... I believe that was an experiment, and that it failed. Is your box still complete, nothing broken?

Many greetings,

Hans
I like M-track and my things that run on it were built between 1959 and 1972.
Offline mrmarklin  
#13 Posted : 21 August 2010 01:21:35(UTC)
mrmarklin

United States   
Joined: 27/10/2004(UTC)
Posts: 867
Location: Burney, CA
Munich 1860 wrote:
Webmaster wrote:

I have not seen any other locos but the 3308 & 3309 packaged in this kind of box, so I wonder if there are any other 80's models that were sold with this (rather flimsy, I must say..) packaging?
Hi Juhan,

no other lokos in the plastic packaging, just those two ... I believe that was an experiment, and that it failed. Is your box still complete, nothing broken?

Many greetings,

Hans


All the boxes are broken!!!!!BigGrin

Re: smoke. I think if you are analogue, there has to be a certain amount of current in the track for the smoke unit to work consistently well. That means high speed running.Scared

I conveerted mine to digital, and love this engine that way.
From the People's Republik of Kalifornia
Offline intruder  
#14 Posted : 22 August 2010 21:35:05(UTC)
intruder

Norway   
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 5,382
Location: Akershus, Norway
I have both the 3308 and the 3309.

The smoke unit in 3309 worked perfect, the 3308 did not work very well. This was before converting to digital.

I found that the ground connection between the loco body and chassis was poor.
After examination I found that on both sides of the "chimney" there are metal support "surfaces" that fit down into grooves in the loco chassis.

Photo of the similar grooves (inside the rivests for the cylinders) in 3084:
UserPostedImage

I removed the paint from both the loco body support surfaces and from the chassis in the bottom of the grooves.
After that the smoke unit worked perfect, also after converting to digital.

For the reference:

Märklin 3308, DRG 85006
UserPostedImage

Märklin 3309, DB 85007
UserPostedImage
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline Webmaster  
#15 Posted : 22 August 2010 22:17:17(UTC)
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Munich 1860 wrote:
Hi Juhan,

no other lokos in the plastic packaging, just those two ... I believe that was an experiment, and that it failed. Is your box still complete, nothing broken?

Many greetings,

Hans


It is very broken, held together with tape... Lousy plastic, it is... Not made for opening more than once... Crying
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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