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Offline monster134  
#1 Posted : 04 April 2008 04:57:00(UTC)
monster134

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Koert decided he is going to do American.Was a good call.You can buy trains from Atlas and Bachmann for about 1/5th the price of a Marklin loco.And it has eqcuisite detail.I prefer the Atlas ones.Very nice trains,and dirt cheap.

Anyways,he gave my Big Boy one look and said he wants a heavily weathered Dash 8.Now now now.....dont tell me to "heavily" weather a loco.Old monster has a heavy hand with paint on any given day of the week.biggrinbiggrin

So,he wants to hook 3 of these to an ore train.So out came my brand new chalk weathering kit.And some fingerpaint and so forth.Lots of red dust i thought in me mind.

And boy,its fun weathering someone elses loco.No inhibitions.So i started the thing tonight.Basic train is done.Need to do the filling in and the wheels.Wheel arches and steps and so forth.

Here goes....poll is open....am i a dead man or not????

Sudibarba is going to have heart failure hehehehe.

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Im going to finish it tomorrow and then take a picture of this and Big Boy together.I still want to try some chalk on BB.biggrin
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#2 Posted : 04 April 2008 05:29:05(UTC)
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remind me never to leave any of my locos at your place... :-)
he will have a heart attack and then love it...
perhaps you have hit on the perfect solution - always let someone else weather your locos....
Dale
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Offline frankie  
#3 Posted : 04 April 2008 11:34:28(UTC)
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I think you have to tone down the rust, with some dry brushing...
Alessandro
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Offline monster134  
#4 Posted : 04 April 2008 11:47:37(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by frankie
<br />I think you have to tone down the rust, with some dry brushing...


That has been done now.Funny one doesnt notice it in real life.But on a picture.....different story.Anyways,thanx for your advice.Much appreciated.What you rate....tone it down with a white?Ive put on a very light layer of buttermilk.It ends to go back to the grey it was before.I redid the whole bogie in the ore color again,and used the chalk to lighten it up.This works much better,but im not too sure i want to mess around with chalk at the wheelsets.

In the picture you will see the front bogie i have done already.You reckon maybe lighten it a bit more?
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Offline hmsfix  
#5 Posted : 04 April 2008 12:15:20(UTC)
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Hi Riekus,

The weathered Dash9 looks great. I agree that on your pics the trucks are rusted a bit too heavily. I have seen quite a number of prototype photos of US diesels, and it appears to me that the trucks were often soiled with a more or less black dirt, eventually oil and brake pad residues.

Your pics remind me that I have still to weather my brightly shining yellow UP PA-1 pair. Didn't dare that yet. Rather I would prefer to weather my Ferrari (if I had one) biggrin

Hans Martin
Offline RayF  
#6 Posted : 04 April 2008 12:36:48(UTC)
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Nice weathering job! Not for the faint hearted. (That includes me!)biggrin

Ray
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Offline frankie  
#7 Posted : 04 April 2008 13:08:35(UTC)
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The weathering tecnique, from my military modelling experience, is made of oil paint washes, where the dark colours are heavily thinned to fill in and of light grey dry brushing to bring up detail, which is a brush wiped and almost dry, sometimes you pick up only the pigment wet the brush and then wipe to almost dry on a rag.
From what I understand you have used only the second one, because you are using a weathering powder, thus for example the rust should have been applied with a wash of say burnt sienna and then dry brushed toneing it down with light grey, if you see what I mean...
Alessandro
I have a CS1 Reloaded!
Offline monster134  
#8 Posted : 04 April 2008 14:45:22(UTC)
monster134

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Eish,ive toned the thing down to nearly black again.This is what i see when i look at it.
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But when i use the flash...it turns to this.Which is NOT what i see when looking at it on the rails.
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Anyways...Koert loves it.He even grabbed the brush and dashed some more dirt on it hehehehe.

This is my 37880.It looks like this when i look at it on the rails.I have been very chuffed with this one.Its been running like this for a month or so now,and with weathered wagons behind it,it looks very realistic IMO.
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And then the dreaded flash...
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Which is not what i see.I think i am going to use an external light source to highlight the locos,and then post pictures.Lets see what they look like then heh?

If at any stage in the defusing of a bomb,you should see a bomb technician running,try your utmost best to keep up with him-Army magazine of preventative action.
Offline RayF  
#9 Posted : 04 April 2008 14:54:02(UTC)
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Throw your flash away, man. It's ruining your locomotives!biggrin

Ray
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Offline monster134  
#10 Posted : 04 April 2008 15:23:57(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />Throw your flash away, man. It's ruining your locomotives!biggrin

Ray


Hell indeed.I think i should weather the flash darker.biggrin

Anycase,im now going to use an external source for light and do a BB Dah9 interface.

Hear that grinding of teeth and the crying.....thats Sudibarba hehehehe
If at any stage in the defusing of a bomb,you should see a bomb technician running,try your utmost best to keep up with him-Army magazine of preventative action.
Offline kbvrod  
#11 Posted : 05 April 2008 18:29:49(UTC)
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Hi all,
Monster! While I encourage weathering and never had a lok,structure,etc,that I didn't weather biggrin.One has to take into account not only the 'why's' of weathering but also the railroad,epoch and such.Now the UP has always had the image of a -clean- modern railroad,so your efforts as far as a UP lok maybe a wee bit overdone,IMVHO.Now,if this was a Southern Pacific lok,well,it might not be weathered enough!wink

Dr Dirt
Offline DaleSchultz  
#12 Posted : 05 April 2008 19:12:32(UTC)
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BTW I like your weathering plank !
If I may add a suggestion.... Dirt cannot be rubbed on. It has to run into all the tiny cracks and crannies. Then the dirt can be rubbed OFF - thus leaving the dirt in the cracks. Take a look at the 2nd image in your 2nd set of the UP images. See the clean area (under the red 9375) where the finger/cloth could not get into the crevice? That are is now cleaner than the surrounding area. It should be dirtier. My suggestion is thus to get black stuff in there first and then clean it off the areas that should be cleaner.

Though not on a loco, this is the approach I used for workshop machinery:
http://layout.mixmox.com/1/acrylic-weathering
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline monster134  
#13 Posted : 05 April 2008 21:06:21(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DaleSchultz
<br />BTW I like your weathering plank !
If I may add a suggestion.... Dirt cannot be rubbed on. It has to run into all the tiny cracks and crannies. Then the dirt can be rubbed OFF - thus leaving the dirt in the cracks. Take a look at the 2nd image in your 2nd set of the UP images. See the clean area (under the red 9375) where the finger/cloth could not get into the crevice? That are is now cleaner than the surrounding area. It should be dirtier. My suggestion is thus to get black stuff in there first and then clean it off the areas that should be cleaner.

Though not on a loco, this is the approach I used for workshop machinery:
http://layout.mixmox.com/1/acrylic-weathering



Taken note Dale.Im going to try and mix a color now to put in there.I cant go for black as there was very little black(bar close to the engine grids and zorsts)on these locos.

Maybe a darker shade of grey?What you rate?
If at any stage in the defusing of a bomb,you should see a bomb technician running,try your utmost best to keep up with him-Army magazine of preventative action.
Offline DaleSchultz  
#14 Posted : 05 April 2008 22:49:44(UTC)
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anyting dark or whatever dirt colour you are adding...
Dale
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Offline kbvrod  
#15 Posted : 05 April 2008 23:13:52(UTC)
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Hi all,
One example:

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Dr D
Offline kbvrod  
#16 Posted : 05 April 2008 23:18:26(UTC)
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Hi all,


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Offline ulf999  
#17 Posted : 06 April 2008 13:58:36(UTC)
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Nice pics!
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Offline nfotis  
#18 Posted : 09 April 2008 00:31:36(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kbvrod

Now the UP has always had the image of a -clean- modern railroad,so your efforts as far as a UP lok maybe a wee bit overdone,IMVHO.


Well, I refer you to these photos, to see that reality surpasses fiction (sometimes):

http://www.railpictures..../viewphoto.php?id=219130

http://www.railpictures..../viewphoto.php?id=154420

http://www.railpictures..../viewphoto.php?id=109951

http://www.railpictures..../viewphoto.php?id=164798

Did you say something? biggrin wink

Cheers,
N.Fotis
Offline Rowan  
#19 Posted : 09 April 2008 05:11:28(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999
<br />Nice pics!


Ditto,and well done with the weathering; very nice indeed!

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