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MarioFabro		#1 Posted : 22 February 2008 18:26:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/10/2001(UTC) Posts: 793 Location: Pittsburgh,		Do you guys think this model will be coming out again soon? Maybe with soft-drive sinus? I think sound would be very difficult to achieve but holding on buying the 37521/522 models on e-bay waiting for a mfX one
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mmervine		#2 Posted : 22 February 2008 21:07:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		Mario: I have one of these and it runs very smoothly. You can always add a Lokpilot MFX. I will look at mine and see if sound is a possibility, but I would not hesitate to recommend these Loks to any Swiss railway fan. r/mark
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AshleyH		#3 Posted : 22 February 2008 21:27:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 693 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset		I second the above advice. I bought the brown Seetal Croc 37521 when they first came out, it's central flywheel drive seemed a massive advance on earlier drive systems. It is super smooth and near silent, almost indistinguishable from the softdrive sinus to be honest. Though of course you do not get the 128 speed steps of MFX. Incidently, the SNCF Flat Iron BB12000 37330 has the same drive system and is also wonderful. Ashley
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dntower85		#4 Posted : 22 February 2008 22:28:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,218 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA		Mario see link electric blowout There is a No. 37522 SBB De 6/6 Seetal Crocodile listed.
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weichen-walter		#5 Posted : 22 February 2008 23:24:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: Mühlhofen,		Hi, do you know this side?: http://www.seetalkroki.ch/4607.html
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steventrain		#6 Posted : 23 February 2008 00:35:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Very cool link with lot of pictures!
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weichen-walter		#7 Posted : 23 February 2008 18:43:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: Mühlhofen,		Hi, and here are some pics from the symmetric double-turnout in H0, built for a Seetal-Fan in switzerland for his station "Wildegg" (Track Code 75, switch-tongue Code 55)
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Larry		#8 Posted : 23 February 2008 19:03:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,443 Location: Northeast Ohio		Have ANY crocs Seetal or otherwise come out with sound from Maerklin? I'd really like one with sound.
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mmervine		#9 Posted : 23 February 2008 19:18:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,884 Location: Keene, NH		Larry: To my knowledge Marklin has not offered these with full sound. I have an older croc that was converted (by Robert at RJF) to full sound using a Loksound 3.5. r/mark
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Hemmerich		#10 Posted : 23 February 2008 22:22:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,734 Location: ,		As the now successfully refurbished Seethal Museum croc #15301 will be one of the highlights at the meeting in Bauma from 10OCT-12OCT2008 it might well happen that Märklin offers finally also the museum version of this very fine loco, at some time this year. Personally I think they will offer it rather with mfx and w/o sound (similar to the new Ee3/3); however that should not be any limitation for someone who wants it even as as such.
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Larry		#11 Posted : 24 February 2008 04:25:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,443 Location: Northeast Ohio		True, Lutz, I can bet on no sound. However, I was surprised and pleased that so many of the '08 Maerklin have sound even the smaller Dampf engines (BR64), which is wonderful. Getting sound put in, for me anyway, in the US is such a major production and cost that it is really an inconvenience. If I were retired maybe I'd see that differently and have sufficient time to do it myself.
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