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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 18 November 2007 17:37:56(UTC)
steventrain

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Hi all,

Can you tell me what ebay seller are the Authorised marklin dealer?

Station500, hit-line, marcel-984, lackylok, Etc.

Any other dealer/mail order do have Authorised?

Comment welcome!
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Offline Sander van Wijk  
#2 Posted : 18 November 2007 19:07:26(UTC)
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Hi Steven,

Without more information on the real names and locations of the various eBay sellers, it will be quite hard to tell whether they are authorised or not.

I happen to know that Hit-line represents M-store GmbH, located in Schwelm (Germany), which in fact is an authorised dealer.
Marcel-984 is better known as Marcel Been from Zaandam (Netherlands) and is AFAIK not an authorised dealer (as there is no authorised Märklin dealer in Zaandam)

Maybe you'll be able to find out by checking the (sometimes available) "me" pages in eBay and compare the information with the dealerlists on maerklin.de or other Märklin websites (depending on the country)

Sander
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Offline David Dewar  
#3 Posted : 18 November 2007 22:10:36(UTC)
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Stephen Why buy on ebay. If it is cheaper then there is probably a reason. I expect most of the authorised M dealers will have shops and websites like Kramm, Lokshop etc. Just what authorised means or gives the customer as far as model trains are concerned I really dont know.

David
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Offline nevw  
#4 Posted : 18 November 2007 22:50:02(UTC)
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DAvid,
In a lot of cases Authorised Dealers selling new items on on Ebay give the warranty. Station 500 is one.
Looking at prices for some new items going on Ebay in most cases, when Not a Buy it Now but an Auction, the final price is more than when buying from a Store, like Lokshop etc.

Nev
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and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline bmcrae  
#5 Posted : 18 November 2007 23:07:27(UTC)
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Also, station500 was selling the 39562 croc as of a week or two ago when other dealers (lokshop for one) had it removed from their sites (sold out now?).
Offline xxup  
#6 Posted : 18 November 2007 23:11:26(UTC)
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Thanks for asking this question Steven.. I too am interested to know which of the eBay sellers is an authorised dealer..
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Offline trainbuff  
#7 Posted : 18 November 2007 23:25:21(UTC)
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Some of these ebay "dealers" have better packing than others. For expensive items like locomotives I'd rather pay a small premium and get from a dealer that I can visit. By the time any packing issues can be corrected, the time for leaving feedback in ebay has passed.
Offline David Dewar  
#8 Posted : 19 November 2007 00:21:33(UTC)
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Nev. Had a look at Station 500. They appear to take credit cards so I would have some confidence in buying. No website as far as I can see other than their stuff on Ebay.
Have you bought from them?

david
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Offline stenscience  
#9 Posted : 19 November 2007 00:28:25(UTC)
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I bought a couple of items from Station 500 a couple of years ago. I don't recall any problems with the transaction. Shipping to this side can be expensive but not outrageous
Offline nevw  
#10 Posted : 19 November 2007 01:20:28(UTC)
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DAvid,
No I have not brought from him but I do know others who have and they always say he is very good to deal with. He accepts Paypal also.
I believe that he has a store but where I do not know. maybe someone here will know.
Nev
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#11 Posted : 19 November 2007 02:03:40(UTC)
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I recently purchased my 37889 BR44 from Matthias (station500). I know Macfire (Tony) has purchased items from station500 as well. I had no problems with the transaction, the parcel took one week to arrive from Germany to NZ. Loco was in fine condition when received. One of the attractions about buying from these guys is that they have in stock what they are advertising - not always the case with the Lokshop.

I asked in another thread recently (can't find it though) about whether some of these ebay sellers were Marklin authorised dealers. Lutz answered by saying probably not and suggested I check their addresses against the list of authorised dealers on the M website - not that I can read German though!! Lutz inferred that none of these guys are authorised Marklin dealers, but I haven't been able to confirm that one way or the other. I asked about ebay dealers station500, johnvandamme, fettsau1 and maybe lackylok.

Lutz, if you can give us all something more than a cryptic answer on this topic we would all appreciate it very much.

I just remembered - the thread was the one where we talked about ebay seller fit991.
Offline jonquinn  
#12 Posted : 19 November 2007 04:20:28(UTC)
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station 500 is spielkiste brenner (www.spielkiste.de, Ettlingen), but there doesn't appear to be any webstore - I guess not needed if they're selling everything through ebay around the world. Beyond that all I know is his ebay page says he's authorized. Perhaps the marklin.de website will tell you for sure.
I've never had any problem with him. His packaging is good, but takes a good bit longer to get to the USA - 3-4 weeks. Fortkord has also been OK to me, but I haven't bought anything from him in a while (their packaging is also good, but he has a partner here in the USA in cincinatti, who sometimes helps him with shipments).
I know some of the US dealers won't like my answer, but I can't afford to pay some of the prices dictated by the "system" here in the US for marklin, at least for locomotives - or at least have to forgo several items because of the price difference between the US and germany - even with postage its a substantial savings, even with the two price leaders here in the US. I don't see a similar effect on other brands like Roco or Brawa, as far as buying from US dealers or ebay.germany - there doesn't appear to be the markup from the middleman - the prices offered are very close (I am still no fan of marklin usa).
Offline rhtastro  
#13 Posted : 19 November 2007 04:29:21(UTC)
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On their e-Bay site Station 500 says they are an authorized Marklin dealer. I have not purchased from them, however, I have bought considerable Marklin HO tinplate from ddTrain/Netherlands on that auction. Mostly American oriented models made in the 1990's. All new and in the original boxes. bob
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Offline trainbuff  
#14 Posted : 19 November 2007 05:02:31(UTC)
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What do we consider good packing? Would you consider this good packing for an overseas shipment?
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Cause that's what I got along with a damaged lok from one of the ebay dealers we are talking about. He fixed and then sent it back in the same box! It was damaged again. I had specifically requested better shipping. He said this is standard size shipping box that Marklin uses and he sends 100's a year with no problem. I just can't see Marklin shipping in a box that is barely longer than the lok box. I fixed it myself the second time. The money I saved and the time I lost was not worth it.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#15 Posted : 19 November 2007 07:39:06(UTC)
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I'd expect a bit bigger than that, Chris! I've brought 5 locos and one ICE Train off eBay sellers, and more than that off our local Trademe auction site, and all of the sellers have sent the locos well packaged, with no damage sustained.

For a loco being sent through the post, I'd expect it to be in its box (or if not boxed, then bubble wrapped) then the box bubble wrapped and placed in a larger box with packaging material (bundled newspaper, or foam chips) to protect the items inside.

One box I received containing a Kibri Bonn station kit and a loco from johnvandamme (He knows this, because I told him), had a hole in it and had been creased but the items inside had been well packaged as I described and were completely undamaged.

This is a testament to the quality of Joachim's (johnvandamme) packaging that a large plastic kit and a loco being in an outer box that took some damage in the post, survived undamaged.
Offline Guus  
#16 Posted : 19 November 2007 10:34:12(UTC)
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originally posted by Chris:

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:What do we consider good packing? Would you consider this good packing for an overseas shipment?

I can relate to that!

In another topic I suggested that most probably the root cause of damage to the loco was the insufficient packing.

The second time the loco arrived undamaged-that's to say only minor damage, which was pure luck,because it was packed the same way!

I've bought locos with several dealers abroad and there's quite some difference between the way they pack their sendings.
Most of the packing was sufficient,but I've also seen packing like your example.
We could blame the parcel service companies for rough handling but IMHO it's a fact we have to live with.Dealers have a responsibility in this and should pack their sendings well enough to be able to withstand indiscriminate handling.

Kind regards
Guus
Kind regards,
Guus
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 19 November 2007 11:06:26(UTC)
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I've just noticed on station500's ebay site, there is a ticker tape display which reads "PURCHASE WITH CONFIDENCE - WE ARE AN AUTHORISED MARKLIN DEALER".
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#18 Posted : 19 November 2007 11:10:11(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by trainbuff
<br />By the time any packing issues can be corrected, the time for leaving feedback in ebay has passed.


Chris, the way around this is to save the auction in your browser as an mht file - you can do this from within IE using the save as function. When you are ready to place feedback, just open up the file with IE, and you can place your feedback, even though the auction may no longer be visible under 'My eBay'. I've done this a few times.
Offline Legless  
#19 Posted : 19 November 2007 11:40:31(UTC)
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Hi to all.
I've brought most of my Marklin on line, including four loco's at different times from Station 500 and I have had not one piece damaged. Yes I have brought from dealers, but I find that the prices or availability is better on-line.
Legless
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Offline trainbuff  
#20 Posted : 19 November 2007 13:40:52(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by trainbuff
<br />By the time any packing issues can be corrected, the time for leaving feedback in ebay has passed.


Chris, the way around this is to save the auction in your browser as an mht file - you can do this from within IE using the save as function. When you are ready to place feedback, just open up the file with IE, and you can place your feedback, even though the auction may no longer be visible under 'My eBay'. I've done this a few times.


Hi Bigdaddynz,
Thanks for the tip. I was still able to find the auction in my list of purchased items though. What I think happened was that the ability to leave feedback was no longer there. There must be a time limit on ebay to give feedback. I was waiting for a "factory repair", so it was a long time till I got the lok back.
Offline steventrain  
#21 Posted : 19 November 2007 15:28:41(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />I've just noticed on station500's ebay site, there is a ticker tape display which reads "PURCHASE WITH CONFIDENCE - WE ARE AN AUTHORISED MARKLIN DEALER".


Yes, I notice it.wink
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Offline Macfire  
#22 Posted : 19 November 2007 23:32:45(UTC)
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Quote: By the time any packing issues can be corrected, the time for leaving feedback in ebay has passed.

Another way: if you pay by PayPal, is to go into your purchases and from there into the sale. Then you can leave feedback.
I did this when I brought from Canada and my parcel was shipped surface, arriving some three months later. Why? Horrendous air freight costs from Canada!!

Quote: Marcel-984 is better known as Marcel Been from Zaandam (Netherlands) and is AFAIK not an authorised dealer

No, Marcel is NOT an authorised dealer.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#23 Posted : 20 November 2007 10:06:59(UTC)
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I've just been having a search on the Marklin.de web site (as best I can with my non existent German), and I can confirm that Lackylok is also an authorised Marklin dealer.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#24 Posted : 20 November 2007 10:17:06(UTC)
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Add johnvandamme and hit-line to the authorised dealers list as well, but I don't think fettsau1 is authorised (not that I can find).
Offline steventrain  
#25 Posted : 20 November 2007 15:38:06(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Macfire
<br />
Marcel-984 is better known as Marcel Been from Zaandam (Netherlands) and is AFAIK not an authorised dealer

No, Marcel is NOT an authorised dealer.


OK, Thanks for the information.wink
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Offline stephenbb  
#26 Posted : 20 November 2007 16:42:20(UTC)
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Just my thoughts I've ben buying from STATION 500 for a number of years. He is always prompt in responding and i've not had any shipping problems. though a bit slow to the U.S. He also quotes in US prices which at least makes it easy to figure the price as he takes care of the exchange rate and deducts the VAT
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Offline steventrain  
#27 Posted : 22 November 2007 23:20:00(UTC)
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What about MS-TOYS?
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