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Offline MarklinFan  
#1 Posted : 05 March 2007 02:03:44(UTC)
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In the grand era of US steam, the consist of a passenger train usually followed a somewhat logical pattern.

Immediately behind the engine and tender would be the U.S. Mail/baggage car. This acted as a buffer between the noise, smoke, and cinders of the engine and the passenger cars.

Next would be the "sitting" or "chair" car. If you will, these were the "cheap seats".

Behind that came the "diner". Thus, the chair car patrons would "go back to the diner", if you have ever heard that very old terminology.

And last was the "sleeping car". This positioning put it fartherest from the engine and made the diner into a buffer between the sleeping passengers and the chair car.

After the diner closed for the evening, things should have been quiet unless some night owls decided on a few drinks and a card game at the empty dining tables.

If this consist seems accurate to my other US friends, is it also how passenger trains were arranged in Europe?
Offline Brändlein  
#2 Posted : 05 March 2007 08:43:48(UTC)
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Hello,

in the steam era, in Germany the usual express train would have looked like this:

loco, bagage car, 3rd + 2nd class coach(es), dining car, 1st and other clas coaches. Mail cars would be put next to the bagage car, sleeping cars usually at the end of the train, as they usually often were through coaches.Sometimes even a second bagage car was put at the end of train.

After WW II this was gradually given up.

Thomas
Offline jaivh  
#3 Posted : 25 May 2007 21:51:53(UTC)
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Joined: 28/04/2007(UTC)
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Location: Regina, SK
Ok, then let me post this question:

How many passengers should a train have?
I have a DA 800 and it is pulling three cars 4051, 4052 and 4026, I am looking to add a couple of more cars, I was thinking 4053 and an other 4052. Five seems to be a good number of cars.

How many 24cm cars do you put behind your engines?
What about 16cm cars?

Thanks
Jai
Offline kimballthurlow  
#4 Posted : 26 May 2007 13:41:35(UTC)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia
Dear Jai,
Passenger trains varied widely.
A time-tabled train may have run with (example) 4 coaches normally. But during holiday and other peak travel times, this train may have doubled to 8 coaches. And then the mix of coaches will depend on the length of the journey.
The 24cm coaches would have generally been used for journeys of 100km or greater, and for express trains, eg. 4051, 4052. The shorter coaches (without lavatories) would have been for shorter journeys of no more than 40 minutes.
Sometimes a stopping train (not express) may have a mixture of coaches, to reflect some passengers using the non-lavatory cars for a short journey.
Anyway, there are no hard and fast rules, these trains were made up to suit destinations, and the passenger traffic on the day. You can run your railway as you want.

regards
Kimball
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