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Offline fynrfin  
#1 Posted : 10 March 2025 19:39:36(UTC)
fynrfin

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I finally got my layout up and running with help from here and my family. I've noticed that several of the locomotives, especially those with shorter pick up shoes stall out on crossings and turnouts. It's worst on turnouts and at low speed. Some don't stop completely, but I notice the sound being interrupted with the sound on. Is there a trick to fix this?

Searching on this site I saw a fix for k-track, by screwing them down. Any experience if that's the same for C-track?

Thank you,
Steen
Steen Jorgensen
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Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 10 March 2025 20:25:56(UTC)
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Locos with short sliders always have that problem. I run them a bit faster so momentum carries them out of the area where they lose contact. Also clean the middle contacts to remove any dirt that prevents contact and make adjustments to the slider which can easily be slightly askew or bent.
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Offline Copenhagen  
#3 Posted : 10 March 2025 23:44:50(UTC)
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Cleaning the middle track, the pukos, can be difficult. I have success with a graphite stick, meant for drawing, that I run over track pieces with poor connection (middle track only) and it works well. Be sure to stop track power while doing so.
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Offline rhfil  
#4 Posted : 10 March 2025 23:50:24(UTC)
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Graphite is conductive. I would be concerned about the powder getting in everything. I bought felt furniture pads which I cut slightly wider than the rails. The pad has a bit of flex and absorbs alcohol so the two rails and the pukos are cleaned at the same time. The felt is dense enough not to leave bits of it on the track.
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Offline dickinsonj  
#5 Posted : 11 March 2025 00:10:40(UTC)
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I have fixed problems like that by making sure that the sliders are perfectly flat, hang down the prescribed amount and are evenly suspended under the loco.

It is a complicated dance for a slider to pass over the crossing rail, and everything has to be perfect. Your problem might be something else entirely but it is work checking out.
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
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Offline tworail  
#6 Posted : 11 March 2025 01:55:04(UTC)
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They should work fine and sometimes need a bit of fine tuning. Assuming the tracks and wheelsets/sliders are clean and free of dirt or other contaminants and there are no issues with track power in general. When I was troubleshooting the issue I would get a small flashlight and a non-conductive pointer of sorts - a long toothpick or something similar. When it stalls, assuming you can get up close, use the toothpick to manipulate the slider or wheels until it starts moving again. This may give some indication to the issue, whether loco or turnout/crossing or both, and oftentimes the slider needed tweaking, or the spring needed tweaking, or both. I recently had this issue with a M track turnout, where the puko contacts where not at the appropriate height and it was fixed with a set of small needle-nosed pliers. Good luck.
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Offline Copenhagen  
#7 Posted : 11 March 2025 10:26:16(UTC)
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The graphite stick I use is a crayon sized stick of hardness 2B. I use the flat end and it shows very little wear after having had it for several years. It's not used that often. Mostly if a piece of track has gotten a dead spot because it hasn't had a locomotive run over it in a long time (like a dead end track). I don't use it on the outer tracks (for the wheels).
I believe some people use a small piece of wood for the middle track? It's also a good idea to wipe off and clean the pick up shoe maybe with some rubbing alcohol or isopropyl alcohol from time to time.

I definitely agree that one should be careful and avoid graphite dust on the tracks.
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Offline tworail  
#8 Posted : 12 March 2025 21:53:02(UTC)
tworail

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Also incidentally this note came via Robert Frowenfeld of RJF trains on the new Marklin Shay yesterday - Marklin will start putting a buffer capacitor in new locos. This is something I want to do in my LGB locos to avoid the sound stalling issues.

With this locomotive, Marklin has started to install a "buffer capacitor" (some folks like to call it a "keep alive" circuit). Basically, this is a capacitor that, once it has had a chance to charge, acts as a battery to store power to keep your locomotive running for a brief period of time if it encounters a short section of track that doesn't have power (due to dirt, oxidation, etc.). You'll start noticing this feature in, among other places, the icons that Marklin includes in the descriptions of its models. I expect we'll see more of these in future models!
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#9 Posted : 12 March 2025 23:07:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tworail Go to Quoted Post
Also incidentally this note came via Robert Frowenfeld of RJF trains on the new Marklin Shay yesterday - Marklin will start putting a buffer capacitor in new locos. This is something I want to do in my LGB locos to avoid the sound stalling issues.

With this locomotive, Marklin has started to install a "buffer capacitor" (some folks like to call it a "keep alive" circuit). Basically, this is a capacitor that, once it has had a chance to charge, acts as a battery to store power to keep your locomotive running for a brief period of time if it encounters a short section of track that doesn't have power (due to dirt, oxidation, etc.). You'll start noticing this feature in, among other places, the icons that Marklin includes in the descriptions of its models. I expect we'll see more of these in future models!


Actually about half the locos in the New Items 2025 brochure have this note about a buffer capacitor against them. This loco is not the first. The first is the Insider E91 announced at the end of last year.

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