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Offline Bones  
#1 Posted : 20 February 2025 13:56:55(UTC)
Bones

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Has anyone ever tried to include points in a block section for occupancy
The points are designed for it but has anybody actually tried it
Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 20 February 2025 15:54:53(UTC)
rhfil

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Not sure what you are calling points.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#3 Posted : 20 February 2025 17:10:38(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
Not sure what you are calling points.


Translates as 'switch' in Americanism.

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Offline rhfil  
#4 Posted : 20 February 2025 20:55:27(UTC)
rhfil

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That is what I thought but how is a point/switch designed to show occupancy?
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#5 Posted : 21 February 2025 10:59:44(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC)
Posts: 3,550
Location: Paris, France
Hi Evan
Seems to me you don't provide enough information:
- which track (3 rails, 2 rails)
- which brand
- which type of operation (analog, digital, computer control).

Generalities on turn-outs / points
- turnouts on Märklin C-Track and K-Track are rather easy to be modified for adding occupancy
- turnouts and DSSs on Märklin M-Track are rather difficult to be modified for adding occupancy
- turnouts in 2 rails pose absolutely NO problem for occupancy provided using current detection and resistive wheel-sets

Generalities on automatic operation
- blocks are zones where the trains may stop and having a switch in a block poses no real problems (normal digita)l or could be tricky (computer control) but has some drawbackx
- the key issue is the train stops on the switch this means that the switch position must be decided before the train occupies the block and then, when the train is in the block, only those itineraries given by the switch position must be allowed
- detection usually poses no problem as when done on both sides of the swich it works pretty well
- installing a brake module may pose a problem
- in such a case, slave blocks and virtual blocks may be very helpfull (Rocrail for instance)

Cheers
Jean
Offline Bones  
#6 Posted : 16 March 2025 07:44:45(UTC)
Bones

Australia   
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Location: Queensland
Thanks everyone for your help
And just for the future I'm Australian and my father was a railway engineer thus I use the (UK) point instead of switch (US)
And in from all my posts over recent years you would have known I switched to C track nearly 10 years ago once i had all my loco's digitised
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