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Offline Eddie7979  
#1 Posted : 20 September 2024 02:11:36(UTC)
Eddie7979

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone is able to explain a section from the Marklin locomotive manual.

I am considering buying the new SNCF Mikado locomotive, before doing anything I wanted to check the manual to see if it will run on my layout since I have R1 curves in some places.

The manual has this diagram:
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I have a curve using 2 x R4 and 1 x R5 C track, followed by the C to K track converter (24922), then a small section of straight track before going into a turnout.

Can anyone explain what this means and what the 24 or 22 means?

I recall recalling another manual where it was recommended not having the 24922 track before entering a turnout, so I made sure I didn’t do that.

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Offline nhumps  
#2 Posted : 20 September 2024 07:40:01(UTC)
nhumps

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In the context of the diagram the 24... is the prefix for C track series items, the 22... is the prefix for the K track series.

I think it is suggesting you should not have a curved piece of C track immediately following the 24922 adapter track. I presume this is because the elevation change of the adapter could cause issues immediately into a curved track. Maybe someone else knows of a specific reasoning beyond that.

i would think that they advise this based on an abundance of caution for reliability around the track type transitions. I would think if you are not having any running problems around the transition then there should be no need to adjust you track configuration. Certainly an R5/R4 should be very gentle in the transition. Maybe an R1 at that point could cause some headaches.
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Offline applor  
#3 Posted : 20 September 2024 09:15:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nhumps Go to Quoted Post
I presume this is because the elevation change of the adapter could cause issues immediately into a curved track.


This. However if you were to have your K track roadbed at the same height as the C track, so that there was no elevation change, then you could have them adjacent without issues.
The only other difference between C and K track is the rail height. C track is code 83 and K track is code 100 which I believe is 0.8mm vs 1.1mm rail height.
The C track adaptor piece has the two different rail heights meet in the middle where they just sit flush with each other.

Or if it's a permanent layout and you're capable with a dremel and willing to have a go (and need the geometry) then you can do some cuts and transition direct from any C to K track piece (assuming you keep the rail heights the same).
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Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 20 September 2024 10:37:56(UTC)
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In the old days, that diagram came with some text: "Transfer rail / gradient and start of bend"

A change of incline (gradient) in or near a curve can lead to problems.
This can also happen if you have a change of incline when using only C track or only K track.
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Tom
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