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Offline Mark5  
#1 Posted : 09 February 2024 01:15:26(UTC)
Mark5

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Location: Montreal, Canada
Hello Kit builders et al.

Was not sure I should post this question in the "prototype" or in "kit building" channel but here we are.

RE:
Walthers Scenemaster 949-11001
Scale(s): 1:87 Scale, HO Scale
GM Part Number: WH949-11001
CABLE EXCAVATOR WITH BUCKET KIT

I hope to show results if I can get around to it but I would like to know what the actual manufacturer of the prototype and get recommendations for what the painting was/might have been of this steam shovel and the exact time period.
1950s? If so when and what nations used it.

The details I found are very broad on some of the descriptions.
I do like the grey and blue for the 50s even though I am pretty sure that Caterpillar started with yellow much earlier.
So if I do go yellow I will have to weather it quite well to give it a patina. Its just looks too bright for early Era III.

But who actually made these? Anyone know?

Thank you for reading
- Mark

walthers-scenemaster-949-11001-cable-excavator-with-bucket-kit-(3)-44896-p.jpeg








DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70.
In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Offline Mark5  
#2 Posted : 09 February 2024 01:21:11(UTC)
Mark5

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BTW i just noticed its on sale on the Walthers site for $12
I got mine for around that price at a train show.
https://www.walthers.com...e-excavator-w-bucket-kit

and the broad description online is not enough for me.
It reads:


Put this easy-to-build Walthers SceneMaster vehicle kit to work along your HO layout! The model features:
Designed for easy assembly - illustrated step-by-step instructions
Highly detailed to bring HO layouts to life
Plastic parts molded in realistic colors
Typical of shovels used from the 1950s to 1990s
Detailed crawler chassis, boom and bucket

There is nothing more on the pamphet/instructions in the box.
DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70.
In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Offline marklinist5999  
#3 Posted : 09 February 2024 13:32:32(UTC)
marklinist5999

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Location: Michigan, Troy
I would guess that Kibri/Viessman makes it. They make all the Walthers crane kits and reach stackers.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 10 February 2024 18:27:06(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
I would guess that Kibri/Viessman makes it. They make all the Walthers crane kits and reach stackers.


Yeah, but who made the prototype? I think that is what he is actually asking.

Once the prototype is known then details of how they were originally painted can be more easily found.

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Offline Mark5  
#5 Posted : 18 February 2024 02:52:23(UTC)
Mark5

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Yes Alan, thank you. That is correct, as stated I know the kit maker, I am looking for the manufacturer of the prototype.
Be that as it may, wondering if there were steam shovels in either Holland, Germany, Italy or France in the late 1950s of this particular kind.
Also if I could find one in old black and white photos, it may also be hard to determine the colour/"livery" when viewing in the black and white photo.

Thank again for feedback,
Mark


Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
I would guess that Kibri/Viessman makes it. They make all the Walthers crane kits and reach stackers.


Yeah, but who made the prototype? I think that is what he is actually asking.

Once the prototype is known then details of how they were originally painted can be more easily found.



DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70.
In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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