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river6109		#1 Posted : 02 February 2024 09:28:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Hi, nothing spectacular: 1 SBB Ae 6/6, SBB Am 842, 1 DB BR 220, 1 x V 60 or 260 or 261, 1 DB BR 103, 1 BR 78 in various styles and this is it., DB BR 94,
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mvd71		#2 Posted : 02 February 2024 10:37:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Auckland,		And no doubt lovely models with a large price tag?
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river6109		#3 Posted : 02 February 2024 17:39:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: mvd71 And no doubt lovely models with a large price tag? Recommended retail price T18, Euro 639.00 BR 94 Euro 599.00 SBB Ae 6/6, DB BR 103, Euro 519.00 DB BR V 60, 260, 261, SBB Am 842, Euro 459.00 DB BR V 220 Euro 479.00
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mvd71		#4 Posted : 02 February 2024 22:34:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Auckland,		Ouch! Not for me
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Bryan		#5 Posted : 03 February 2024 04:21:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/09/2010(UTC) Posts: 211 Location: Bowral, NSW, Australia		Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare...
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river6109		#6 Posted : 03 February 2024 05:55:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... Try servicing Piko locos, to exchange rubber tyres, nightmare
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mvd71		#7 Posted : 03 February 2024 10:28:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Auckland,		Old Märklin and Hag are looking better all the time!
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David Dewar		#8 Posted : 03 February 2024 23:34:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,343 Location: Scotland		Originally Posted by: mvd71 Old Märklin and Hag are looking better all the time! HAG made many years ago were great but not so sure about newer models nwhich I have heard are not as good.
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mvd71		#9 Posted : 04 February 2024 06:53:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Auckland,		I only have models from the old factory. They are well detailed and robust.
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river6109		#10 Posted : 06 February 2024 02:05:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Can we stay on the subject: ESU locos
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mvd71		#11 Posted : 06 February 2024 07:29:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Auckland,		Originally Posted by: river6109 Can we stay on the subject: ESU locos Apologies
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Goofy		#12 Posted : 09 February 2024 19:36:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,020		Originally Posted by: river6109 Hi, nothing spectacular: 1 SBB Ae 6/6, SBB Am 842, 1 DB BR 220, 1 x V 60 or 260 or 261, 1 DB BR 103, 1 BR 78 in various styles and this is it., DB BR 94, You forgot other more new products by ESU. Ecos are the new digital system with upgrade touchscreen. Still same design and same program but more advance high capacitive touchscreen so you need no more plastic pencil.
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Bigdaddynz		#13 Posted : 10 February 2024 03:58:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		ESU New Items brochure https://www.trainsdepot....spring_overview_2024_pdf
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David Dewar		#14 Posted : 11 February 2024 12:48:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,343 Location: Scotland		If you go to the MSL site and select ESU then News you will get the English version of new items. Would post a link but by now most will know I have no idea how do this type of thing on here. Looks like they have some good items but I dont know how coaches will run on C track as my previous ESU coach was not great even when changing wheels. Locos look good also.
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kiwiAlan		#15 Posted : 11 February 2024 12:59:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: David Dewar If you go to the MSL site and select ESU then News you will get the English version of new items. I can only find the German 2024 Locos and rolling stock, or the 2022/2023 decoders and accessories, again in German.
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David Dewar		#16 Posted : 11 February 2024 13:23:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,343 Location: Scotland		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: David Dewar If you go to the MSL site and select ESU then News you will get the English version of new items. I can only find the German 2024 Locos and rolling stock, or the 2022/2023 decoders and accessories, again in German. Hi Alan. Just change to English at top right corner. Go to ESU NEWS. However it may not be up to date as I dont have a great interest in ESU but it does give details of their controller and the locos etc appear to be reservation so I expect are new. As far as I know MSL supply all ESU goods.
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1borna		#17 Posted : 14 February 2024 21:15:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/12/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,353 Location: Hrvatska		Everyone's prices go up year after year, once it's too much, you'll lose a lot of customers who will focus on second hand. Then I guess they will stop with the price increase? With some new models full of details, I still somewhat understand the high price, but for recycled models they ask really too much! (This applies to all manufacturers, there are no more cheap ones)
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marklinist5999		#18 Posted : 15 February 2024 12:46:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,142 Location: Michigan, Troy		Correct! Nothing is inexpensive anymore. We leased a new vehicle last week and it is virtually the same as the one we returned. While the list price was higher by over a thousand dollars we had to put more money down to have a bit lower monthly payment. A few features are gone from the three year old model. No exterior door pillar lock pad, mirror puddle lights, interior footwell lights, and the hinged cover for the forward center console storage receptacle and USB port access. 8 way drivers seat as opposed to a 10 way, and a 4 way power passenger seat as opposed to a 6 way.
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GlennM		#19 Posted : 16 February 2024 01:59:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,886 Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England		Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature.
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river6109		#20 Posted : 16 February 2024 17:40:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature. since I've added ball bearings to all my Märklin locos, there was no need for maintenance such as oiling and this in turn saves a lot of hassles down the track so to speak., John
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river6109		#21 Posted : 16 February 2024 17:42:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: river6109 Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature. since I've added ball bearings to all my Märklin locos, there was no need for maintenance such as oiling and this in turn saves a lot of hassles down the track so to speak., further more with all my diesel and electric locos I've added a wire to the non powered bogie and this eliminates the common oxidation of 2 different metals between bogie and chassis. John
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Goofy		#22 Posted : 17 February 2024 14:17:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,020		Some of the ESU locomotive are easy with service by do it self. Not so much difference from Märklin.
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river6109		#23 Posted : 19 February 2024 06:21:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: river6109 Originally Posted by: river6109 Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature. since I've added ball bearings to all my Märklin locos, there was no need for maintenance such as oiling and this in turn saves a lot of hassles down the track so to speak., further more with all my diesel and electric locos I've added a wire to the non powered bogie and this eliminates the common oxidation of 2 different metals between bogie and chassis. John my post concerned Märklin locos only, not including C-Sine motors John
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