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Hi, nothing spectacular: 1 SBB Ae 6/6, SBB Am 842, 1 DB BR 220, 1 x V 60 or 260 or 261, 1 DB BR 103, 1 BR 78 in various styles and this is it., DB BR 94, |
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And no doubt lovely models with a large price tag?
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: mvd71  And no doubt lovely models with a large price tag? Recommended retail price T18, Euro 639.00 BR 94 Euro 599.00 SBB Ae 6/6, DB BR 103, Euro 519.00 DB BR V 60, 260, 261, SBB Am 842, Euro 459.00 DB BR V 220 Euro 479.00 |
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Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare...
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... Try servicing Piko locos, to exchange rubber tyres, nightmare |
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Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Old Märklin and Hag are looking better all the time!
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Originally Posted by: mvd71 Old Märklin and Hag are looking better all the time! HAG made many years ago were great but not so sure about newer models nwhich I have heard are not as good. |
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I only have models from the old factory. They are well detailed and robust.
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Can we stay on the subject: ESU locos |
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Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Can we stay on the subject: ESU locos Apologies 
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Hi, nothing spectacular: 1 SBB Ae 6/6, SBB Am 842, 1 DB BR 220, 1 x V 60 or 260 or 261, 1 DB BR 103, 1 BR 78 in various styles and this is it., DB BR 94, You forgot other more new products by ESU. Ecos are the new digital system with upgrade touchscreen. Still same design and same program but more advance high capacitive touchscreen so you need no more plastic pencil. |
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Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,455 Location: Scotland
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If you go to the MSL site and select ESU then News you will get the English version of new items. Would post a link but by now most will know I have no idea how do this type of thing on here.
Looks like they have some good items but I dont know how coaches will run on C track as my previous ESU coach was not great even when changing wheels.
Locos look good also. |
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer. |
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar If you go to the MSL site and select ESU then News you will get the English version of new items. I can only find the German 2024 Locos and rolling stock, or the 2022/2023 decoders and accessories, again in German.
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Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,455 Location: Scotland
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: David Dewar If you go to the MSL site and select ESU then News you will get the English version of new items. I can only find the German 2024 Locos and rolling stock, or the 2022/2023 decoders and accessories, again in German. Hi Alan. Just change to English at top right corner. Go to ESU NEWS. However it may not be up to date as I dont have a great interest in ESU but it does give details of their controller and the locos etc appear to be reservation so I expect are new. As far as I know MSL supply all ESU goods. |
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Everyone's prices go up year after year, once it's too much, you'll lose a lot of customers who will focus on second hand. Then I guess they will stop with the price increase? With some new models full of details, I still somewhat understand the high price, but for recycled models they ask really too much!
(This applies to all manufacturers, there are no more cheap ones)
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Correct! Nothing is inexpensive anymore. We leased a new vehicle last week and it is virtually the same as the one we returned. While the list price was higher by over a thousand dollars we had to put more money down to have a bit lower monthly payment.
A few features are gone from the three year old model. No exterior door pillar lock pad, mirror puddle lights, interior footwell lights, and the hinged cover for the forward center console storage receptacle and USB port access. 8 way drivers seat as opposed to a 10 way, and a 4 way power passenger seat as opposed to a 6 way.
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Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,971 Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England
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Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature. |
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature. since I've added ball bearings to all my Märklin locos, there was no need for maintenance such as oiling and this in turn saves a lot of hassles down the track so to speak., John |
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature. since I've added ball bearings to all my Märklin locos, there was no need for maintenance such as oiling and this in turn saves a lot of hassles down the track so to speak., further more with all my diesel and electric locos I've added a wire to the non powered bogie and this eliminates the common oxidation of 2 different metals between bogie and chassis. John |
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Some of the ESU locomotive are easy with service by do it self.
Not so much difference from Märklin. |
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Originally Posted by: river6109 Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: Bryan Try servicing ESU locomotives, nightmare... I found the same with the Brawa E95 Elok, just greasing the worm gear is a major undertaking. I know sometimes people are critical of Marklin, but when you consider the overall package, of quality, detail, robustness, reliability and running characteristics, upgradability, serviceability and second hand value is Marklin such a bad product? Staying on the ESU topic I am thinking of adding a V200 with the turk and beige paint scheme, as I only have an old analog model in this livery. I have one ESU V200 and it is a good runner plus the smoke is always an interesting feature. since I've added ball bearings to all my Märklin locos, there was no need for maintenance such as oiling and this in turn saves a lot of hassles down the track so to speak., further more with all my diesel and electric locos I've added a wire to the non powered bogie and this eliminates the common oxidation of 2 different metals between bogie and chassis. John my post concerned Märklin locos only, not including C-Sine motors John |
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