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Offline river6109  
#1 Posted : 28 September 2023 00:52:05(UTC)
river6109

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Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
The new track system will be 2 rail when the renew the Austrian section, the middle rail has been filed down over the years and needs replacing, I‘ve had mine over 40 years and still going,
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Offline mvd71  
#2 Posted : 28 September 2023 03:49:45(UTC)
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33% reduction in quality 😈
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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 28 September 2023 07:39:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
The new track system will be 2 rail when the renew the Austrian section, the middle rail has been filed down over the years and needs replacing, I‘ve had mine over 40 years and still going,
The middle rail has been filed down again and needs replacing again. This time they go two-rail instead of three-rail in this area.
I think the centre rail lasts about 5 years in Wonderland.

Many areas have been built without centre-rails and now they begin to change old areas from three-rail to two-rail.

Yes, the centre-rail is the weak part of the three-rail system. It is made of tin plate and prone to rust and wear.

Regards
Tom
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Offline 1borna  
#4 Posted : 29 September 2023 20:46:04(UTC)
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The average hobbyist will never use up the middle rail and even those who think they drive a lot.
It's another matter in such a large system where it is driven from morning to evening every day of the year.
It would not be worthwhile for Marklin to install higher quality (more durable) materials separately due to several large systems
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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 30 September 2023 19:43:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 1borna Go to Quoted Post
The average hobbyist will never use up the middle rail and even those who think they drive a lot.
Never say never.
MiWuLa opens 7 days a week and they wreck the centre-rail in about 5 years.
With operation one day of the week, you may get about 35 years. Sounds good.
With operation two days of the week, you are rather at 17 years. Still sounds quite good.

With only a few hours of operation per day, you can double the figures given above. This should bring you on the safe side.
With C track, standard turnouts should last longer than slim turnouts.

MiWuLa has K track. Not sure if C track wears off quicker.

Regards
Tom
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Offline mvd71  
#6 Posted : 01 October 2023 10:19:00(UTC)
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It would make sense for c track to wear quicker because the surface area is less so there is a higher pressure per cm3 on the surface of the pukos
Offline river6109  
#7 Posted : 01 October 2023 11:04:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 1borna Go to Quoted Post
The average hobbyist will never use up the middle rail and even those who think they drive a lot.
Never say never.
MiWuLa opens 7 days a week and they wreck the centre-rail in about 5 years.
With operation one day of the week, you may get about 35 years. Sounds good.
With operation two days of the week, you are rather at 17 years. Still sounds quite good.

With only a few hours of operation per day, you can double the figures given above. This should bring you on the safe side.
With C track, standard turnouts should last longer than slim turnouts.

MiWuLa has K track. Not sure if C track wears off quicker.



My K-track has been on the layout for 43 years and some have been worn down, not by usage but rather getting rusty on the top and by filing it down I'e lost most probably a mm or two, since we've insulated the garage this is no longer necessary, so we hope it will last long enough before I'll take them to heaven.Blink

John
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Offline marklinist5999  
#8 Posted : 01 October 2023 12:54:39(UTC)
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Some days, miwula only runs a few trains. They have system maintenance and cleaning to do. It's endless.It takes two weeks to vacuum and dust the place.
Offline heinrichhess  
#9 Posted : 01 October 2023 13:35:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 1borna Go to Quoted Post
The average hobbyist will never use up the middle rail and even those who think they drive a lot.
Never say never.
MiWuLa opens 7 days a week and they wreck the centre-rail in about 5 years.
With operation one day of the week, you may get about 35 years. Sounds good.
With operation two days of the week, you are rather at 17 years. Still sounds quite good.

With only a few hours of operation per day, you can double the figures given above. This should bring you on the safe side.
With C track, standard turnouts should last longer than slim turnouts.

MiWuLa has K track. Not sure if C track wears off quicker.



My K-track has been on the layout for 43 years and some have been worn down, not by usage but rather getting rusty on the top and by filing it down I'e lost most probably a mm or two, since we've insulated the garage this is no longer necessary, so we hope it will last long enough before I'll take them to heaven.Blink

John


I think you mean M track?

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Offline marklinist5999  
#10 Posted : 01 October 2023 16:14:55(UTC)
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One other point; a smaller layout trackage is used more than a larger one because trains complete a loop in less time.
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