hey guys


i have just brought the class 55 loco 37540

and when it arrive from lokshop i had a 72270 Smoke generator kit sent with it, 1 st the kit arrived with out any smoke oil, so i brought some today locally ut not marklin but Sluatle, anyway i insatll the smoke pipe and out in some oil and nothings happening

roughly how long does it take for the smoke to appear, and may i have installed it wrong, or could it have been damged


thanxs

kiwi

Hi,

I have a 72270 installed in a BR18 (S3/6). Normally the smoke comes out after about 3-5 seconds. Add to the advice from Guus:
- check that you enabled the function for smoke (f1), I don't know what it does in analog mode...
- use a seringe to insert the smoke fluid. See that it gets on the bottom of the smoke generator. If you insert too little oil it will stick to the sides and the middle pipe of the generator due to capillar effects. (anyway a few drops should suffice)
- if you get it working be prepared for a lot of smoke. my 72270 generates a lot more then my normal smoke generators (is also empty a lot quicker)

Bert

Hmm... Bert was a little quicker with the SYRINGE... ;-)

(we both messed up with spelling that word)

Hi Kiwi,

I own a BR 055 (37554) and also installed a 72270 smoke unit in it. Since the first day I didn't get fully satisfied with it, first of all because it was very difficult to install and entered very tight into the chimney. Talking about its behaviour, it does an odd rumble sound like small detonations very quickly and it makes too much smoke, so it hardly lasts more than 30 seconds. And sometimes when you start it with F1, it takes about 8-10 seconds until it starts making smoke with a big detonation, just like the whole boiler had exploded [}:)]

I have other two 7226 smoke units and both work very softly, with detonations almost silent and more or less every 1 second (the 72270 makes about 6-8 detonations in a second). They make a bit less smoke and it lasts more than 2 minutes.

I'm thinking about adding one or two diodes in series with the 72270 to check if its behaviour gets better, but I don't know if there is enough room in the small smokebox of the tiny BR 55 [:I]

Kind regards.

It depends on the wiring inside the loco.
With Delta locos the smoke unit normally is connected to the track power - therefore you need different smoke generators for analog and digital operation.
If the smoke generator is switchable (normally with f1) then you need the 16V version even for digital operation.
7226 is #10, 72270 is #20; some Delta or non-fx locos need #11 or #24 for digital operation.

@kiwi:
BTW: if you switched red and brown wires in the feeder track, the smoke generator may not get enough power to smoke sufficiently. And the smoke generator won't work either with too much smoke fluid in it.

I use a relay connected to the function output and have the relay switch an analog smoke unit.
see http://layout.mixmox.com...stalling_digital_decoder

H-Zero,

What happens if i installed #11 where it should #10.
What happens vice versa.
One will render not-smoking the other will cause decoder damage.

thanks.

AFAIK the 6090 is not switching the current to the smoke generator, therefore I cannot believe this should be a decoder problem.
And remember that you cannot measure digital track voltage with a cheapo AC volt meter. The volt meter can handle symmetric sine waves, but the digital voltage is asymmetric non-sine waves.

thanxs for the info

Hi Dale
Looking for information about smoke units and found your post about using a relay. I just installed a LokSound unit in a 3084 and installed a Seuthe #10 per ESU instructions. Tried diff settings for CV115 (15 & 111). If I use a magnifying glass I can see some smoke coming out. Is the relay the only way to make this work? If so can you supply a part number of the one you use? If I hook the smoke unit direct to the tack it does work.

Thanks for a reply
Kevin