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Offline Thewolf  
#1 Posted : 01 January 2023 14:11:14(UTC)
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Hi gang Cool

Happy New Year to all

I have a problem with a MFX loco.

I want to register it on the cs3. This is the 5th one. I follow the procedure and the cs3 fails to locate the mfx decoder.

Is there anything I can do or do I send it straight to my dealer Mike without trying what to do?

Have a nice day

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#2 Posted : 01 January 2023 14:33:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Thewolf Go to Quoted Post
Hi gang Cool

Happy New Year to all

I have a problem with a MFX loco.

I want to register it on the cs3. This is the 5th one. I follow the procedure and the cs3 fails to locate the mfx decoder.

Is there anything I can do or do I send it straight to my dealer Mike without trying what to do?

Have a nice day

Thewolf



First, are you sure it is an mfx loco?

Second, have you tried the 'reregister mfx' function (I forget exactly how it is worded).
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Offline Thewolf  
#3 Posted : 01 January 2023 14:58:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


First, are you sure it is an mfx loco?

Second, have you tried the 'reregister mfx' function (I forget exactly how it is worded).



This is 37168 marklin

What is the reregister mfx function ? I have never heard of this.

All I know is that to register an mfx loco, you put it on either the main or programming track.

With the cs3, you activate the stop bar, you can put the mfx loco on the main track and you press the stop bar again...after a few seconds the decoder is located and registered


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Offline rhfil  
#4 Posted : 01 January 2023 15:13:26(UTC)
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I have never heard of the stop bar activation. I just put in on the layout. First I would make sure there are no other locos on the layout or use the programming track. If nothing happened I would try the find lost loco function. That is an mfx+ loco. Check to make sure there is contact with the decoder. Try moving it on the layout. I never put anything on the layout without the stop bar activated and power to the layout off.
Note I would only isolate the loco if I it had not registered by just putting it on the layout with other locos.
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Offline Thewolf  
#5 Posted : 01 January 2023 15:32:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
I have never heard of the stop bar activation. I just put in on the layout. First I would make sure there are no other locos on the layout or use the programming track. If nothing happened I would try the find lost loco function. That is an mfx+ loco. Check to make sure there is contact with the decoder. Try moving it on the layout. I never put anything on the layout without the stop bar activated and power to the layout off.
Note I would only isolate the loco if I it had not registered by just putting it on the layout with other locos.


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Offline Thewolf  
#6 Posted : 01 January 2023 15:33:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
I have never heard of the stop bar activation. I just put in on the layout. First I would make sure there are no other locos on the layout or use the programming track. If nothing happened I would try the find lost loco function. That is an mfx+ loco. Check to make sure there is contact with the decoder. Try moving it on the layout. I never put anything on the layout without the stop bar activated and power to the layout off.
Note I would only isolate the loco if I it had not registered by just putting it on the layout with other locos.


I don't touch the decoder. I know my limits



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Offline rhfil  
#7 Posted : 01 January 2023 15:49:01(UTC)
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The difference is that I am usually adding a loco first thing so the CS3 is already in stop mode. I put the loco on the layout and then activate the layout. If noting happens then slide the loco forward a bit and wait again.
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Offline Thewolf  
#8 Posted : 01 January 2023 15:54:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
The difference is that I am usually adding a loco first thing so the CS3 is already in stop mode. I put the loco on the layout and then activate the layout. If noting happens then slide the loco forward a bit and wait again.


I didn't think to move it a bit

Thanks

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Offline Goofy  
#9 Posted : 01 January 2023 15:55:51(UTC)
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Did you bought loco as second hand or it´s new and never been used before?
Try to open body of the loco and check if the decoder are inserted good.
Could be bad contact there.
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#10 Posted : 01 January 2023 16:19:22(UTC)
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Hi
@Thewolf: What is really important during registration:
- install the loco while there is NO POWER (preferably on the programing track, if you have a large layout). Installing the loco while digital power in on, may start the registration while you are not finished (The registration may be interrupted / aborted by shorts or power cuts).
- power ON. Registration will start after 30 s sometimes more. Don't touch ANYTHING for at least one minute, preferably 2 minutes.
- sometimes, the previous registration is not finished or unnoticed, (the new loco may be hidden behind many others). So check carefully that it is not already present in the list of locos
- if the problem persists activate "Chercher Article MFX" Search for [lost} MFX articles. The CS3 will search for all MFX lost locos See red framed key here
Note the procedure takes one minute or more and will power OFF and ON multiple times. Let it finish.
Sans titre.png

Another method is to have your "lost" loco registered to a different Digital system (CS3, CS2, MS2 WITH its track box and power supply, MS1 , its special feed track and its power supply. There must be NO CONNECTION between this second system and the first one.
When registration is finished, then bring back the loco in question your first system and register it anew.
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Offline Thewolf  
#11 Posted : 01 January 2023 16:34:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Did you bought loco as second hand or it´s new and never been used before?
Try to open body of the loco and check if the decoder are inserted good.
Could be bad contact there.


I have often written that I do not touch the decoder and that if I open the box, it is only to clean .

And in all my life as a marklinist, I have never bought used loco marklin material, ...wagons yes for example.

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Offline Thewolf  
#12 Posted : 01 January 2023 16:37:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Go to Quoted Post
Hi
@Thewolf: What is really important during registration:
- install the loco while there is NO POWER (preferably on the programing track, if you have a large layout). Installing the loco while digital power in on, may start the registration while you are not finished (The registration may be interrupted / aborted by shorts or power cuts).
- power ON. Registration will start after 30 s sometimes more. Don't touch ANYTHING for at least one minute, preferably 2 minutes.
- sometimes, the previous registration is not finished or unnoticed, (the new loco may be hidden behind many others). So check carefully that it is not already present in the list of locos
- if the problem persists activate "Chercher Article MFX" Search for [lost} MFX articles. The CS3 will search for all MFX lost locos See red framed key here
Note the procedure takes one minute or more and will power OFF and ON multiple times. Let it finish.
Sans titre.png

Another method is to have your "lost" loco registered to a different Digital system (CS3, CS2, MS2 WITH its track box and power supply, MS1 , its special feed track and its power supply. There must be NO CONNECTION between this second system and the first one.
When registration is finished, then bring back the loco in question your first system and register it anew.
Cheers
Jean


Hi Jean, thank you.

To date, I have not yet installed and connected to the cs3 my Roller Test Stand.

I will do it soon

Thewolf





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Offline marklinist5999  
#13 Posted : 01 January 2023 16:53:51(UTC)
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Offline Thewolf  
#14 Posted : 01 January 2023 18:02:36(UTC)
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Model train fun guy knows a lot!


Who is this guy ?

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Offline rhfil  
#15 Posted : 01 January 2023 18:11:27(UTC)
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Just go to Youtube and look up: " Model Train Fun". His Marklin instructional videos are very thorough.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#16 Posted : 01 January 2023 18:20:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Thewolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


First, are you sure it is an mfx loco?

Second, have you tried the 'reregister mfx' function (I forget exactly how it is worded).



This is 37168 marklin


OK, so according to Marklin 37168 page this is an mfx+ loco.

Originally Posted by: Thewolf Go to Quoted Post

What is the reregister mfx function ? I have never heard of this.

All I know is that to register an mfx loco, you put it on either the main or programming track.

With the cs3, you activate the stop bar, you can put the mfx loco on the main track and you press the stop bar again...after a few seconds the decoder is located and registered




I'd have to go and look at the documentation to sort out what menu it is on.
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