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Offline Newbie  
#1 Posted : 09 October 2022 05:41:40(UTC)
Newbie

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Hi everyone and thanks in advance if you can help.
I currently have a HO scale 2 rail layout but have fallen in love with Marklin trains and would like to add a large section into my layout.
I was told the CS3 Marklin controller can run 2 rail digital as well is this true or do I just need 2 controllers cheers Alan
Offline Copenhagen  
#2 Posted : 09 October 2022 11:22:45(UTC)
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Yes the CS3 can easily run 2 rail DCC (as well as 3 rail DCC). Maerklin does have the Trix 2 rail series that uses the same controllers.

I don't know if mixing the two systems in a layout poses any issues that one has to be aware of. But others might chime in here.
Offline Newbie  
#3 Posted : 09 October 2022 12:49:26(UTC)
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cheers for the help at least it is a start to follow
Offline JohnjeanB  
#4 Posted : 09 October 2022 13:56:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Newbie Go to Quoted Post

I currently have a HO scale 2 rail layout but have fallen in love with Marklin trains and would like to add a large section into my layout.
I was told the CS3 Marklin controller can run 2 rail digital as well is this true or do I just need 2 controllers cheers Alan

Hi Newbie (another first name perhaps?)
A warm welcome in this forum.

Yes the CS3 can operate 2 rails and 3 rails network in 3 different protocols: Motorola, DCC, MFX.
Mixing Märklin 3 rails with 2 rails locos and cars will require one of the following:
- 2 different, non-connected parts of your layout
- adapt either all your 2 rails stuff into 3 rails or vice-versa.
- instead of purchasing Märklin, you purchase the 2 rails equivalent by TRIX: absolute same locos and cars but adapted to 2 rails

The other adaptation is for sensors:
- in 3 rails, this is done by using 60881 (S88)
- in 2 rails, this is done by using 60882 which is a current-sensing device (2 isoled groups of 8 sensors)

In 2 rails, because of the current-sensing approach, for precise detection, graphite paint used on isolated wheel-sets will allow the precise detection of all cars even when no lighting, etc. Recommended resistor is around 5 kOhm per axle.

Cheers
Jean

Offline ktsolias  
#5 Posted : 12 October 2022 19:06:05(UTC)
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HI
Actually there is no AC (3rail) or DC (2 rail) system.

The digital systems are MM, mfx, DCC etc.

The CS3 supports all these systems at the same time. You can operate a mfx loco side to side with a DCC.

Also on the same SC3 you can mix without any problem 2 rail, 3 rail, N etc.

So the 2 rail 3 rail etc are the way that the loco take power from the rails.

As far as the controller supports the digital system of the decoder there is no any problem.

Best regards

Costas
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Offline Goofy  
#6 Posted : 13 October 2022 06:16:46(UTC)
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Yes it’s possible to use 2 rail and 2 rail with stud contact with same digital system. How ever i recommended an system that have possible to adjust power setting to the track. For H0 i recommended 16 V which are standard in this scale.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 13 October 2022 09:36:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
For H0 i recommended 16 V which are standard in this scale.
Says who? Ah, says Goofy.

The ESU manual recommends different voltages for H0 two-rail and H0 three-rail, so there is not a single standard.
The decoders are the same for two-rail and three-rail and a voltage around 18 or 19 V can make operation more reliable, but will slightly increase the wear of the motors.

Regards
Tom
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