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pmgsr		#1 Posted : 24 April 2022 21:21:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 200 Location: Lisbon, Lisbon		A little “survey” about viessmann signals for a computer controlled Marklin layout (so using signals controlled by Rocrail and only for ascetic purposes). Thinking in using “regular” signals with control modules (viessmann 5222, etc) and “k83” (viessmann 5211) or multiplexer ones. The need for external 5211 makes the first one more expensive or at least equal. Am I’m missing something? (Multiplexer signals are easier to install). Also one question: the purpose of the control boxes (viessmann 5222, 5223, etc) is only for a soft change of light? I ask that because they can be connected directly to 5211.
		Pedro Rosa. Linda-a-Velha / Lisbon, Portugal. My Layout (Marklin, C-Track, Digital)


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French_Fabrice		#2 Posted : 25 April 2022 13:50:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,476 Location: Lyon, France		Hello Pedro, I'm afraid the only purpose of 5222, 5223 items are only to switch smoothly the led lights. Furthermore, you have to operate them with a 5546/5545 (manual operation) or with a 5211 if you want to assign a digital address to signals. As a result, a long time ago, I've decided to jump directly to 472x (multiplexed signals) and 5229/52292 as the led are SMD leds. If you compare the price for instance of a 2 * 4722 signals + 1* 52292, it is in the same price range of 2 * 4011 + 2 * 5222 + some 5211 My 2 cents Fabrice

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PMPeter		#3 Posted : 25 April 2022 16:16:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 1,274 Location: Port Moody, BC		Hello Pedro, I have been using the regular Viessmann signals and the LDT signal decoders type LS-DEC-DB. Each decoder can handle 4 signals. Peter

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pmgsr		#4 Posted : 25 April 2022 18:49:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 200 Location: Lisbon, Lisbon		Thank you very much for yout replies Fabrice and Peter, Originally Posted by: French_Fabrice I'm afraid the only purpose of 5222, 5223 items are only to switch smoothly the led lights. Furthermore, you have to operate them with a 5546/5545 (manual operation) or with a 5211 if you want to assign a digital address to signals. Yes, i know that but was wondering why 5222 and 5223 are so expensive on such a setup. Originally Posted by: French_Fabrice As a result, a long time ago, I've decided to jump directly to 472x (multiplexed signals) and 5229/52292 as the led are SMD leds. If you compare the price for instance of a 2 * 4722 signals + 1* 52292, it is in the same price range of 2 * 4011 + 2 * 5222 + some 5211 I made a few scenarios and that's true, like i said befor a multiplexer scenario seems less expensive and with less parts and easier setup (in a new scenario, of course). I think i go that way. BTW, as far as i know there are no multiplexer semaphores, only those digital ones like the 4702 (expensive but digital and with a slow arm movement).
		Pedro Rosa. Linda-a-Velha / Lisbon, Portugal. My Layout (Marklin, C-Track, Digital)


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pmgsr		#5 Posted : 25 April 2022 18:53:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 200 Location: Lisbon, Lisbon		Originally Posted by: PMPeter Hello Pedro, I have been using the regular Viessmann signals and the LDT signal decoders type LS-DEC-DB. Each decoder can handle 4 signals. Peter Thanks, i was not aware of those products.
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