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PeFu		#1 Posted : 20 March 2021 09:32:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,210		Running several trains, I find it nice to have different categories of consists for not mixing them up etc. I’ve just purchased a number of container cars for one train, and now I’m curious on setting up a consist of ”autotransportwagen”, i.e. cars carrying cars. I was just about to ”sofort kaufen” some sets of Märklin 2863 trains at reasonable pricing at eBay.de. However, before adding to cart, I ran into the following posting on Stummi, regarding quality on this product: https://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=40154 Would you have the same experience using the Märklin 4712, 47121, 47122 or 47123? I’m interested in nice looking autotransportwagen of decent quality, where I don’t have to glue the cars on the surface. DB, SBB etc. doesn’t matter, they will be on alp-transite in my kingdom. Also, other brands like Roco on AC wheels would be OK. I’m fine with 2nd hand options. Would you have any autotransportwagen to suggest?
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marklinist5999		#2 Posted : 20 March 2021 11:00:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,139 Location: Michigan, Troy		I have one each of the Marklin blue ones, light, and dark of 1990s issue. They came with Rietze cars. Ford's, Audi, Opel Calibra, Fiat, Honda, Mitsubishi. They are not scale length. My other is a Roco OBB in Orange which is longer and nicer. It has wire railings, but more delicate. It also is best on an R2 radius or more. Thirdly is a Marklin DTX private transport double car which came with 8 Mercedes A class first generation. I use them at will. No rules. I must have a few hundred Herpa, Busch, Rietze, Wiking, Riko, and Chinese ho die cast cars..

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PeFu		#3 Posted : 21 March 2021 08:18:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,210		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 I have one each of the Marklin blue ones, light, and dark of 1990s issue. They came with Rietze cars. Ford's, Audi, Opel Calibra, Fiat, Honda, Mitsubishi. They are not scale length. My other is a Roco OBB in Orange which is longer and nicer. It has wire railings, but more delicate. It also is best on an R2 radius or more. Thirdly is a Marklin DTX private transport double car which came with 8 Mercedes A class first generation. I use them at will. No rules. I must have a few hundred Herpa, Busch, Rietze, Wiking, Riko, and Chinese ho die cast cars.. Any chance you would have their item numbers?
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marklinist5999		#4 Posted : 21 March 2021 09:17:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,139 Location: Michigan, Troy		I believe they are 4223, and 4224. The boxes are in bins under my layout. Otherwise, they are 4233, and 4234. Now these were reissued more than once, with different autos included. These are DB.there is a red one also, in OBB livery. The Roco I think comes in more than one country as well. They hold more cars.

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kimballthurlow		#5 Posted : 21 March 2021 21:59:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,669 Location: Brisbane, Australia		I have used the 4712 wagons on a C track layout, I never had any problems. They are a nice model, well detailed and I saw the real ones in Germany in 2018. Kimball Edited by user 22 March 2021 10:35:26(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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marklinist5999		#6 Posted : 22 March 2021 08:11:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,139 Location: Michigan, Troy		Yes Kimball, I have one of those, and it does well. Only one axle each end, and a center pivot.

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