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Offline F456GT  
#1 Posted : 15 February 2021 20:22:31(UTC)
F456GT

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Hello,

Last year, in a garage sale, I bought several Ho locomotives and cars because it reminded me of my youth, in 1952 my father gave me a Marklin train set. I was planning to put them on static display. Nevertheless, watching You Tube videos I became an enthusiast.

I paid little for the lot, some pieces were in the box and have never been used but some locomotives have a center stud, other not. I also have around fifty pieces of M track.

I tried to find some info about compatibility between Marklin models but to no avail, all I found out is compatibility between Marklin and other brands. Please see photos.

Cheers,

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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 15 February 2021 20:36:54(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: F456GT Go to Quoted Post
I tried to find some info about compatibility between Marklin models but to no avail, all I found out is compatibility between Marklin and other brands.
Do you have any questions?

Originally Posted by: F456GT Go to Quoted Post
I paid little for the lot, some pieces were in the box and have never been used but some locomotives have a center stud, other not.
Maybe these are locos where the centre-rail pickup is missing, maybe these are Hamo locomotives for two-rail operation.
You can tell this when looking at the bottom of the locos. Maybe share some pictures.
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Tom
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Offline F456GT  
#3 Posted : 15 February 2021 21:13:21(UTC)
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Only the green one, top left does not have center stud [contact]
Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 15 February 2021 21:19:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: F456GT Go to Quoted Post


Only the green one, top left does not have center stud [contact]


But it has the contact plate there for the pickup show. All it will need is a new pickup shoe and a screw to hold it on.

Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 15 February 2021 21:29:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: F456GT Go to Quoted Post
Only the green one, top left does not have center stud [contact]
That looks like a Hamo loco for two-rail operation. Conversion for three-rail operation is rather simple, but conversion to AC operation is more difficult. If you want to use it with AC it is probably the best option to add a cheap decoder.
Hamo locos usually have a wheel slider where Märklin locos have a centre-rail slider.

Or maybe sell the Hamo loco and buy a three-rail loco instead.
Regards
Tom
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#6 Posted : 15 February 2021 22:06:56(UTC)
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top left green loco without the slider may be for designed for 2 rail instead of 3 rail. Märklin had a brand named HAMO which used two rail instead of three (for the tracks with center studs).

If these were all bought together it is most likely that that loco is simply missing its slider.

If you have, or get, a Märklin transformer, you could unscrew a slider from one of the others and simply test it. It it runs, it is analog 3 rail.

The drive mechanisms may all be gummed up with dried oil, so only power them up if their wheels turn easily, don't force the wheels, especially on the steam locos.

Dale
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Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 15 February 2021 22:23:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
top left green loco without the slider may be for designed for 2 rail instead of 3 rail.
Yep. One can see the Hamo wheel slider on the pic.

Regards
Tom
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#8 Posted : 15 February 2021 22:58:57(UTC)
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so, all are compatible except the top left green one.
Dale
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My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Online rhfil  
#9 Posted : 16 February 2021 14:50:43(UTC)
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You can often find ho train information by searching online or in the lokmueum with the engine or car number.
Offline F456GT  
#10 Posted : 16 February 2021 17:16:42(UTC)
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Then, the 5106 tracks are for the Hamo only, I am afraid that I'll have to purchase three rail tracks, am I correct? Too bad, mostly are brand new and came in the box. Please see photo.

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Offline H0  
#11 Posted : 16 February 2021 17:23:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: F456GT Go to Quoted Post
Then, the 5106 tracks are for the Hamo only, I am afraid that I'll have to purchase three rail tracks, am I correct?
Your picture shows three-rail tracks.

Regards
Tom
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#12 Posted : 16 February 2021 17:48:43(UTC)
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the center studs = the center 'rail'

originally there was a continuous rail in the middle but they later became a row of studs, but we still refer to the track as '3 rail'

The pickup sliders under the '3-rail' locos run along the studs and pick up the current. The current is returned to the track on both side via the wheels.
Dale
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My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
Offline F456GT  
#13 Posted : 16 February 2021 18:28:01(UTC)
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Great info, thank you.
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