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Offline Michael4  
#1 Posted : 27 November 2020 17:48:00(UTC)
Michael4

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A while back someone posted about what they had done to make 3094 quieter. I refer to BR 03 10, the streamliner whose metal body seems to amplify the noises within.

What was the solution?
Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 29 November 2020 08:55:45(UTC)
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Hello Michael,

I don't think there is a complete solution.

I packed modelling clay into the shell of my streamlined 03.
I like to think it made a difference, but I am easily fooled.

The 03 body is like a bell - it resonates.
The same as modern electric kettles that are shaped like a bell - the noise would waken the dead.

Kimball

HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Michael4  
#3 Posted : 29 November 2020 11:11:15(UTC)
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My plan, based on knowledge of trying to shut up old clattering cars and boats, is simple since I have some offcuts of 3mm closed cell foam and a little double sided tape...


To minimise metal to metal contact twixt chassis and body I have stuck down four pads of foam at the contact points

UserPostedImageIMG_4354 by dralowid, on Flickr

UserPostedImageIMG_4355 by dralowid, on Flickr

I have then put a strip of foam along the top of the inside of the body

UserPostedImageIMG_4356 by dralowid, on Flickr

Two points about this. Allow it to act as a washer around the body retaining screw to reduce metal to metal contact and tuck it under the retaining tabs for the wind deflectors so it doesn't fall onto the reversing unit.

I suggest the strip in the top of the body is not stuck down. I think it works better when loose. I suppose the body now sits a tiny bit higher on the chassis but it is almost invisible when the foam is squashed down.

First results seem very promising and it sounds waaaay better/quieter but don't rush into it until I have run it for an hour or so to see if anything melts!

I think the most significant bit is the removal of most chassis/body contact and not the lining of the loco but we shall see.




Another thing about this loco. Does yours have rubber wind deflectors between tender and cab? Mine hasn't but there are some slots in the tender....






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Offline Michael4  
#4 Posted : 01 December 2020 11:19:24(UTC)
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Well, it hasn't melted.

As to the improvement, I reckon it is noticeably quieter, or at least the sound is no longer annoying. 'Waaaay' might have been an exaggeration but I think, if you have the bits to hand, it is worth giving it a try.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#5 Posted : 01 December 2020 22:35:20(UTC)
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Hi Michael,
Next time I run my 03 (37914) I will follow that recipe.
Thank you.

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline Michael4  
#6 Posted : 01 December 2020 23:40:04(UTC)
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Hi Kimball,

Just remember that mine is an old model with traditional reversing unit. Sounds like yours might have some of that digital gubbins in it. I don't know if this produces heat or does the absence of the reversing unit make for a wonderful echo chamber in there?!?
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Offline JohnjeanB  
#7 Posted : 02 December 2020 00:04:22(UTC)
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Hi
I did similar on my loco BR 03 3489
3489 BR 03.jpg
As Michael, I have glued thin foam sheet between the 4 contact points between the body (the Bell) and the chassis.
The noise is reduced (5 pole motor and C90 decoder) but certainly not silent like a modern loco
As a result I am hesitating to convert the loco with a Sound decoder

Cheers
Jean
Offline Br502362  
#8 Posted : 02 December 2020 22:19:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael4 Go to Quoted Post
A while back someone posted about what they had done to make 3094 quieter. I refer to BR 03 10, the streamliner whose metal body seems to amplify the noises within.

What was the solution?


Hi Michael,

https://www.marklin-user...opulsion--5-pole-upgrade

That is what I did.

Cheers

Åke
Offline Michael4  
#9 Posted : 03 December 2020 19:52:21(UTC)
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Thanks, we are both on the same track but I won't be upgrading motor etc, not with everything analogue plus 6600 and 6699, best stay old school!
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