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Offline Michael4  
#1 Posted : 27 October 2020 18:07:38(UTC)
Michael4

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I have a few locos whose pantographs have broken insulators (or bases).

These are brown plastic and can be found on locos like 3035 etc. I think the pantographs are, according to Kolls Type 8, part number is 7218 (chrome).

The metalwork is OK, I just need the plastic bases. Does anyone make them or have the data to print them? (Our son has recently bought a 3d printer)
Offline mike c  
#2 Posted : 28 October 2020 03:36:47(UTC)
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Those parts are integrated into the Maerklin part. It is not available as a separate part.
if you want a more interesting project, you can find more prototypical country/model specific pantographs from Sommerfeldt and install them on your models.

Regards

Mike C
Offline TEEWolf  
#3 Posted : 28 October 2020 04:33:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael4 Go to Quoted Post
I have a few locos whose pantographs have broken insulators (or bases).

These are brown plastic and can be found on locos like 3035 etc. I think the pantographs are, according to Kolls Type 8, part number is 7218 (chrome).

The metalwork is OK, I just need the plastic bases. Does anyone make them or have the data to print them? (Our son has recently bought a 3d printer)


Are these the parts you are looking for?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/402465317730

https://www.modellhobby....1-st-marklin-217310.html

https://www.maerklinshop...29852/isolator-10-stueck

Märklin isolators have the article # E217310.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#4 Posted : 28 October 2020 08:49:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Are these the parts you are looking for?


This reminds me of a quote from Star Wars - "These are not the Droids you are looking for....."

Take a look at the picture and see if you think those are the correct parts....? I assume you did look at a picture of the 7218 pantograph before you possibly wasted everyone's time with more irrelevant links, but then maybe not...

7218.JPG

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Offline Michael4  
#5 Posted : 28 October 2020 09:55:05(UTC)
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I need to correct my initial post

The original 7218 (nickel Koll type 8) is held together by two pins with flattened ends. Attempts to dismantle would probably lead to destruction. Therefore let us assume that they cannot be dismantled.

The next one is 25069 (nickel Koll type 9). It looks the same as 7218 apart from method of construction. This is different and involves a sort of clip. This can be dismantled.

Then we have 7218 again (brown Koll type 9.1 and 9.2) These have the same construction as 25069 so can be dismantled.

Bigdaddynz, though your picture looks familiar it is not one of these.

This is the best pick I can find, this would be 7218 typ 9.1 being brown with brown insulator. https://www.ebay.com/p/4012046629

The nickel pantographs are becoming very expensive, the brown ones are half the price and still available. As an experiment I have ordered a couple of very cheap ones from China but suspect that they may not survive the battering they will get on my layout!

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 28 October 2020 10:53:26(UTC)
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I guess these are the right illustrations from Kolls then...

7218.JPG
Offline Michael4  
#7 Posted : 28 October 2020 11:10:07(UTC)
Michael4

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That's it all right. Thanks for posting

7218 bottom left you can just see the flattened ends of the pins sticking out of the plastic moulding

Top right and middle right, 25069 / 215000 / etc etc no flattened ends, different construction.

Just to make things more involved your Kolls differs from mine which is 1991. The middle caption on the right describes a version with a green isolator (which is not in mine) and gives them different part numbers. I guess your Kolls is later.

Sometimes I wonder why I get stuck into this stuff...do I feel like a renewed and reborn human as a result? Do I 'eck!

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#8 Posted : 28 October 2020 18:19:57(UTC)
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The picture is from Kolls 2015.
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