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Offline greenhutte  
#1 Posted : 22 February 2020 13:44:53(UTC)
greenhutte

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I inherited my dad's Marklin HO train collection. Most of them were sent to my dad from a family friend in Germany in the 60s and 70s, but some he bought himself later. I'd love to set them up and get them running but I have no idea what I'm doing. I never saw them running, and I've never had model trains of any kind before. The wiring looks kind of intimidating. Also, I don't want to damage them by accident if they're rare or something.

I took some pictures of the trains, track, etc: https://imgur.com/a/ZoUBIOU

Any tips for how to get them running or what I should do next? Thanks!
Offline RayF  
#2 Posted : 22 February 2020 14:05:54(UTC)
RayF

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I would say the first thing to do is to take your tracks and lay down a circle or oval on the floor. One of the tracks should have a red and brown wire attached to it, which you then plug into the transformer/controller. Try one of the locos on the track and see if you can get it to run.

A WORD OF WARNING! The transformers shown in your pictures are old and possibly dangerous to use due to insulation failing inside. I would be reluctant to use them unless they have been checked out by a qualified electrician. Even better, buy a new Marklin white transformer like the 6647 and use that instead.

Don't be afraid to experiment with running your trains. None of what you've got is particularly valuable and most of it is quite durable so you shouldn't be able to break it unless you throw it across the room!
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline Rocca  
#3 Posted : 22 February 2020 14:15:10(UTC)
Rocca

Italy   
Joined: 28/01/2004(UTC)
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Dear Greenhutte,
Your heritage is wonderful. First of all, never feel yourself scared. The thing is easier than you can ever imagine. First of all, I suggest you to build just an oval with a feeder track. Then connect the red and brown wires to the sockets of the Trafo and try to run each Lokos. They must working, even if it is long time. If not, you'll have to oil them or maybe just change the burst on the motors, I'll be able to tell you how to do that, but first have this check, please. Then you can see all the tracks you're available to get there and then by your booklets you can see some of the track plans which enjoy you. Welcome back to the wonderful Märklin world!
Best regards
Stefano



Originally Posted by: greenhutte Go to Quoted Post
I inherited my dad's Marklin HO train collection. Most of them were sent to my dad from a family friend in Germany in the 60s and 70s, but some he bought himself later. I'd love to set them up and get them running but I have no idea what I'm doing. I never saw them running, and I've never had model trains of any kind before. The wiring looks kind of intimidating. Also, I don't want to damage them by accident if they're rare or something.

I took some pictures of the trains, track, etc: https://imgur.com/a/ZoUBIOU

Any tips for how to get them running or what I should do next? Thanks!


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Offline TEEWolf  
#4 Posted : 22 February 2020 18:03:43(UTC)
TEEWolf


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Originally Posted by: greenhutte Go to Quoted Post
I inherited my dad's Marklin HO train collection. Most of them were sent to my dad from a family friend in Germany in the 60s and 70s, but some he bought himself later. I'd love to set them up and get them running but I have no idea what I'm doing. I never saw them running, and I've never had model trains of any kind before. The wiring looks kind of intimidating. Also, I don't want to damage them by accident if they're rare or something.

I took some pictures of the trains, track, etc: https://imgur.com/a/ZoUBIOU

Any tips for how to get them running or what I should do next? Thanks!


Yes, I do.

First a Maerklin brochure (German/English/other languages) about digital railroad with the major items explained inside in English (page 24 of the brochure).

https://static.maerklin....57ac95a9a31493730041.pdf

But in your picture you show mainly analogue Maerklin articles (beside this beautiful S 3/6 Delta - which is already digital - article #33181

https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/33181/

I attach some very old Maerklin brochures (all in English) about analogue railways.





It is a theoretical attachement for a start up into the world of a MRR (Model Rail Road - we do have a thread with abbreviations here at marklin-users.net. Sorry for the mistake inside for MRR. It is shortend as MMR)

https://www.marklin-user...tionary-of-Abbreviations

For further questions, please come back.

And then of course are the Maerklin websites from Germany in English

https://www.maerklin.de/en/

and the American website

https://www.marklin.com/

Have fun.
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#5 Posted : 22 February 2020 19:04:05(UTC)
DaleSchultz

United States   
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I am located 40 minutes from you in Limerick, ME

If you would like to come out with your stuff I can help you get it going and possibly replace the power cables in those transformers.

Send me a direct message and we can exchange email addresses...
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
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Offline mike c  
#6 Posted : 22 February 2020 21:21:55(UTC)
mike c

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@Greenhutte,
You can also try to get in touch with Mike Mervine. He is in New England and might be able to help.
https://www.marklin-user...um/profile/1046-mmervine

You can also check with Hartmann in Intervale, NH (about a 90 minute drive)
http://www.hartmannrr.ch/new_hartmannrr/

The website says no phone at the moment, but I think you can still reach them by email

Might not be a bad idea to start off with a new 120V transformer (6646).

Regards

Mike C
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#7 Posted : 22 February 2020 23:02:38(UTC)
DaleSchultz

United States   
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Hartman has closed.
Dale
Intellibox + own software, K-Track
My current layout: https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com
Arrival and Departure signs: https://remotesign.mixmox.com
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Offline greenhutte  
#8 Posted : 22 February 2020 23:21:30(UTC)
greenhutte

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Location: Portland, Maine
Thank you all so much for your information (and thank you Dale for the offer! might take you up on that.) I'm going to get a new transformer (the ones I have look pretty suspect) and see if I can get any of them running. I will update you and I'm sure I'll have more questions!
Offline GaryTrooper  
#9 Posted : 23 February 2020 07:35:59(UTC)
GaryTrooper

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Originally Posted by: greenhutte Go to Quoted Post
Thank you all so much for your information (and thank you Dale for the offer! might take you up on that.) I'm going to get a new transformer (the ones I have look pretty suspect) and see if I can get any of them running. I will update you and I'm sure I'll have more questions!


New transformer... good! I started out with a small oval, one loco, and two cars. I'm looking forward to seeing your trains run. Good luck.
G - LGB
O - Lionel and MTH
HO - Marklin
N - Mix of manufacturers mostly Kato
Offline Rocca  
#10 Posted : 23 February 2020 20:50:07(UTC)
Rocca

Italy   
Joined: 28/01/2004(UTC)
Posts: 617
Good luck by me too!! Enjoy everything, please!! It is a great hobby
Stefano


Originally Posted by: greenhutte Go to Quoted Post
Thank you all so much for your information (and thank you Dale for the offer! might take you up on that.) I'm going to get a new transformer (the ones I have look pretty suspect) and see if I can get any of them running. I will update you and I'm sure I'll have more questions!


Offline TEEWolf  
#11 Posted : 23 February 2020 21:02:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: greenhutte Go to Quoted Post
Thank you all so much for your information (and thank you Dale for the offer! might take you up on that.) I'm going to get a new transformer (the ones I have look pretty suspect) and see if I can get any of them running. I will update you and I'm sure I'll have more questions!


Wow, would be very happy to get such an offer from Dale as well. You should take it. But unfortunately I am about 14 hours and an Atlantic ocean away.Smile

But have a look on to his own railway website,

https://cabin-layout.mixmox.com/
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Offline madhu.gn.71  
#12 Posted : 25 February 2020 14:29:22(UTC)
madhu.gn.71

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Location: Bangalore, India
greenhutte, that is such a such a priceless possession. You have everything you need there. Catenary masts, beautiful metal wagons and locos, track planning book and loads of tracks. Time for you to burn the mid night oil and work on your layout:)
If I was to stay just 40 minutes away from Dale, I would visit him and learn from him as much as I can digest. I wish you good luck and eagerly waiting to see your metal beauties in action soon
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Offline hxmiesa  
#13 Posted : 25 February 2020 17:46:50(UTC)
hxmiesa

Spain   
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Posts: 3,520
Location: Spain
Transformer police alert! Please do NOT try to power those trafos up, under any circumstances!
It´s a good thing that you already see them as "suspect". They are!!!
Dale is a master technician. He will set you straight on all the aspects. You should definetly see him, now that he has been so kind as to offer his assistance.

Edited by user 26 February 2020 09:25:51(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
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Offline greenhutte  
#14 Posted : 03 March 2020 04:04:23(UTC)
greenhutte

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Joined: 22/02/2020(UTC)
Posts: 3
Location: Portland, Maine
Hi everyone, Thanks again for your help and encouragement. I wanted to give you a quick update! I got a new transformer (6646) and put together a small track and gave it a try... and it worked! All the track is old (there is one with a center rail which I think is older and then the rest in the green boxes) and it seems like some of the track pieces might not work, the trains would stop at them. So there was some trial and error and we swapped out a few track pieces until we got a working oval.

The newer locomotives (the ones that came in the white boxes) worked right away. The older ones had some more issues. I was able to get a few running but they needed a couple of gentle pushes to get started. And then one lit up but wouldn't run. I am wondering if they might need to be cleaned? They were all very squeaky. I didn't have time to try out everything but I'll slowly keep going through them.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#15 Posted : 03 March 2020 09:18:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: greenhutte Go to Quoted Post
Hi everyone, Thanks again for your help and encouragement. I wanted to give you a quick update! I got a new transformer (6646) and put together a small track and gave it a try... and it worked! All the track is old (there is one with a center rail which I think is older and then the rest in the green boxes) and it seems like some of the track pieces might not work, the trains would stop at them. So there was some trial and error and we swapped out a few track pieces until we got a working oval.

The newer locomotives (the ones that came in the white boxes) worked right away. The older ones had some more issues. I was able to get a few running but they needed a couple of gentle pushes to get started. And then one lit up but wouldn't run. I am wondering if they might need to be cleaned? They were all very squeaky. I didn't have time to try out everything but I'll slowly keep going through them.


being very squeaky indicates a desire for a (tiny) drink of oil on the motor and gear bearings.

Considering their age you may also need to replace the brushes in the motors.

In the worst case you may find that the motor and gear train need cleaning. If things get that far then there are plenty of people here able to give good advice.

Online Martti Mäntylä  
#16 Posted : 03 March 2020 22:07:58(UTC)
Martti Mäntylä

Finland   
Joined: 15/11/2018(UTC)
Posts: 398
Location: Uusimaa, Helsinki
Good progress!

If a loco lights up but fails to move, the usual reason is that the brushes do not make a good contact with the motor. Sometimes it is enough to clean their contact surfaces up, sometimes they need to be replaced. Also the little springs that press the brushes against the anchor may have become bent a bit out of shape so that they don't do their job properly. Feel free top post pictures if needed!
- Martti M.
Era III analog & digital (Rocrail, CAN Digital Bahn, Gleisbox/MS2, K83/K84), C & M tracks, some Spur 1
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