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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 25 January 2019 14:42:14(UTC)
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New model BR44 pulling rake of hoppers at Marklin test run.



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Offline mbarreto  
#2 Posted : 25 January 2019 16:08:25(UTC)
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Close to 40 wagons, 4 axles each (160 axles)! :)
It is very good already!
They can show it now in a 3% incline, for it to be astonishingly good! :)
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Offline river6109  
#3 Posted : 25 January 2019 16:22:05(UTC)
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I don't think its an self explanatory example how many hoppers this loco can pull, it depends on the overall weight, although it impressive (40 wagons) one would like to see it going up a hill with 2 BR 44's. I'll stick to my older BR 44's, I can buy on ebay for Euro 99.00 and convert it to digital with all different gadgets

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 25 January 2019 17:26:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
I don't think its an self explanatory example how many hoppers this loco can pull, it depends on the overall weight, although it impressive (40 wagons) one would like to see it going up a hill with 2 BR 44's. I'll stick to my older BR 44's, I can buy on ebay for Euro 99.00 and convert it to digital with all different gadgets

John


Looks like someone just set the speed to flat out, the rate at which those wagons are going past.
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Offline mbarreto  
#5 Posted : 25 January 2019 19:06:19(UTC)
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The video shows Märklin is listening to customers like us that in last months are talking, sometimes complaining, sometimes doubting, about the new locomotives pulling power. Maybe it is not yet the perfect benchmark but IMHO it is a very positive action from Märklin.

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Offline DTaylor91  
#6 Posted : 25 January 2019 19:53:24(UTC)
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Just curious, how many real, loaded hoppers of that type could a real BR 44 pull on level ground?
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Offline pab  
#7 Posted : 25 January 2019 20:28:48(UTC)
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Just curious, how many real, loaded hoppers of that type could a real BR 44 pull on level ground?


The famous "Lange Heinrich" was pulled by two locomotives (class (0)44 and/or 043) and had a max of 50 loaded hoppers (sometimes a few more). Speed around 80 km/h. Since it was a freight train it had to stop now and then for fast passengers trains. On an incline often an extra BR 50 or so was needed to push the train until it has enough speed. (source Wikipedia)
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Offline DTaylor91  
#8 Posted : 26 January 2019 20:36:08(UTC)
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Just curious, how many real, loaded hoppers of that type could a real BR 44 pull on level ground?


The famous "Lange Heinrich" was pulled by two locomotives (class (0)44 and/or 043) and had a max of 50 loaded hoppers (sometimes a few more). Speed around 80 km/h. Since it was a freight train it had to stop now and then for fast passengers trains. On an incline often an extra BR 50 or so was needed to push the train until it has enough speed. (source Wikipedia)


So, roughly, the new BR44 model can pull more cars than the prototype could. Seems ok to me.

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Offline utkan  
#9 Posted : 27 January 2019 12:07:09(UTC)
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Poor Mother M* has got to work very hard to reach the success of Mä 3047.1 (DB 44 690)....Crying
Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you...
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Offline Br502362  
#10 Posted : 27 January 2019 15:53:39(UTC)
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Hi,

My old BR24 (3003) stalled to the back straight with two 4002 and one 4003 wagons. I was so lazy that I
didn't want to crawl under the layout to the other side so I decided to put my trusty BR44 (3047) with ten type 4621 oil wagons, to push
the BR24 with its wagons to the front straight.

I was sure that pushing them would end to derailing of those wagons between the steamers.
But no! BR44 pushed and pulled the whole combination without any problems.
And here they are more easily to reach.

IMG_20190127_163324[6821]a.jpg

Fortunately there wasn't any bigger problem with the BR24.

BR44... brutal force ThumpUp

Cheers

Åke
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Offline mbarreto  
#11 Posted : 27 January 2019 20:03:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Br502362 Go to Quoted Post

...
BR44... brutal force ThumpUp
..

Åke


It is more than brute force. It is also the capability of both trains to stay railed/on track during the demanding operation.

I am curious if that layout is analogue or digital.



Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline mbarreto  
#12 Posted : 27 January 2019 20:05:36(UTC)
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About the sound quality and fidelity to the original, of the new BR44 in the initial video of this thread what do you think (in case do you think
it is enough for a simple classification)?

Best regards,
Miguel
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Offline Br502362  
#13 Posted : 28 January 2019 05:03:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Br502362 Go to Quoted Post

...
BR44... brutal force ThumpUp
..

Åke


It is more than brute force. It is also the capability of both trains to stay railed/on track during the demanding operation.

I am curious if that layout is analogue or digital.





Hi,

The layout is analogue

Åke
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Offline applor  
#14 Posted : 29 January 2019 22:21:04(UTC)
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very impressiveCool Now I wait for the era3a version.
modelling era IIIa (1951-1955) Germany
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