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NewComix		#401 Posted : 09 May 2019 23:01:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 93 Location: Harsefeld, Niedersachsen		Originally Posted by: Minok Now I just have to wait on the german catalog so I can read the original text to understand what the heck a "clearance gauge" is .. I assume some sort of trim? (the lower trim bits). I‘ve never heard that term before, but deepl.com says: Lichtraumprofil = structure gauge or clearance profile kind regards Jörg
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Minok		#402 Posted : 09 May 2019 23:15:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,318 Location: Washington, Pacific Northwest		Originally Posted by: NewComix Originally Posted by: Minok Now I just have to wait on the german catalog so I can read the original text to understand what the heck a "clearance gauge" is .. I assume some sort of trim? (the lower trim bits). I‘ve never heard that term before, but deepl.com says: Lichtraumprofil = structure gauge or clearance profile kind regards Jörg Yeah, I think its an odd to English translation of Lichtraumprofil. Basically because of the length of the cars, as they go around the 360mm R1 (which they physically can do on the track), the center and/or corners of the wagons will extend further outward/inward than the track clearance NEM standard or Märklin typical standard allows. As a result, if you have masts and structures right up against the track in those bends, the cars may well impact those trackside structures. Lucky for me, I've not yet built my layout, so by the time I get to installing catenary posts, signal masts, etc I will be in possession of the train and can use it to determine the clearance of all things to the track in the R1 curves (which I will have plenty of).
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RayF		#403 Posted : 09 May 2019 23:30:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Interesting selection. I have to think about whether I get any of these items or hold out for the Fall new items...
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TEEWolf		#404 Posted : 10 May 2019 00:13:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/06/2016(UTC) Posts: 2,465		Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Originally Posted by: Minok Now I just have to wait on the german catalog so I can read the original text to understand what the heck a "clearance gauge" is .. I assume some sort of trim? (the lower trim bits). I guess they mean the Lichtbild. In other words it goes over the norm. Not really. The German word is "Lichtraumprofil" and about it a long article exists in the German Wikipedia. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtraumprofil and it is even in English available! But they name it structure gauge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_gauge And we Germans are perfect - sometimes Of course we do have adequate signs for this Lichraumprofil (clearance gauge). Who is perfect? Don't worry,be happy.
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xxup		#405 Posted : 10 May 2019 00:13:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: rbw993 Only thing I am interested in is the Transwaggon set, though could do without the VW/Audi car. Roger I am the opposite - I would like the VW/Audi wagon and not the Transwaggon..
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franciscohg		#406 Posted : 10 May 2019 00:44:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia		Well, 39047 and car set ordered. Perfectly fitting era, taste, etc.. it was unskipable, it will be a great train with 35090 car set. Regards
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dickinsonj		#407 Posted : 10 May 2019 01:18:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I'm actually a little disappointed. No US-items at all. I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. Yeah - I thought that a 4014 was a no brainer - just don't apply the weathering and you are done! Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister The 39243 is a must have to me ... I love my 39241 and I am trying to tell myself that one is enough, but wow is that loco pretty in green. Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister My budget is quite limited this year so maybe it was good Märklin didn't chose any special models. Yeah - mine too. I was hoping and not hoping that there would be more this summer. The toy fair in Göppingen usually generates an exceptional fall surprise loco and I want enough budget left for that if it is a got to have item. Maybe I could be cured of this affliction, but I sure hope not.
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Dimi194		#408 Posted : 10 May 2019 01:53:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 383		Haven't ordered any Marklin (or model railway stuff) this year due to time constraints meaning I've no space/time to set them up, but 37068 really got me interested... until I saw the $500AUD (ish) price tag!!!!! :S
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dickinsonj		#409 Posted : 10 May 2019 03:24:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: Dimi194 but 37068 really got me interested... until I saw the $500AUD (ish) price tag!!!!! :S Wow - no prices yet at any of my normal dealers but that is just too much for what this is, no matter how many bells and whistles it might have.
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Bigdaddynz		#410 Posted : 10 May 2019 03:43:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj .....no prices yet at any of my normal dealers...... Marklin RRP prices are listed in the German version of the catalog. Nothing much of interest for me, I was hoping (for the 2nd time!) there would be 1 Gauge TEE coaches to go with the BR103 locos Marklin released last year, but no we get a €4,500 French steam loco instead.... The H0 BR290 looks nice but €360 isn't cheap, so will probably pass on that.
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Goofy		#411 Posted : 10 May 2019 09:21:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		The price of the BR 290 is fair because there is now the new telex couple and the cab lighting. It´s extra details.
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Bigdaddynz		#412 Posted : 10 May 2019 10:14:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,763 Location: New Zealand		I didn't say the price wasn't fair, I said it wasn't cheap.
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kiwiAlan		#413 Posted : 10 May 2019 10:48:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,455 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: xxup Originally Posted by: rbw993 Only thing I am interested in is the Transwaggon set, though could do without the VW/Audi car. Roger I am the opposite - I would like the VW/Audi wagon and not the Transwaggon.. I suspect that set will come with the waons individually packaged anyway, so you will probably both be satisfied ...
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Tower		#414 Posted : 10 May 2019 11:09:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/02/2010(UTC) Posts: 169 Location: Pretoria, South Africa		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I'm actually a little disappointed. No US-items at all. I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. I agree, very slim pickings for the Marklin US model collectors this year again!
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steventrain		#415 Posted : 10 May 2019 11:18:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: Tower Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I'm actually a little disappointed. No US-items at all. I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. I agree, very slim pickings for the Marklin US model collectors this year again! Marlin did production 37995 weathered edition running number 4014 six years ago. Don't know Marlin can do it again but price more expensive - about 900 euro?
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RayF		#416 Posted : 10 May 2019 11:35:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I'm seriously thinking about the Br290. I don't have many locos in Era V red. The Transwaggon set is nice to go with it too. The Br213 and it's set is nice too, and a little bit cheaper. I'm also thinking of getting the three wagons from Denmark, Sweden and Luxembourg. Can't get enough "foreign" wagons...
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vilithejou		#417 Posted : 10 May 2019 12:55:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 849 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: Tower Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I'm actually a little disappointed. No US-items at all. I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. I agree, very slim pickings for the Marklin US model collectors this year again! Marlin did production 37995 weathered edition running number 4014 six years ago. Don't know Marlin can do it again but price more expensive - about 900 euro? But not oil tender loki Ep VI prototype... :-)
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dickinsonj		#418 Posted : 10 May 2019 15:26:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: Tower I agree, very slim pickings for the Marklin US model collectors this year again! It seems to me that Märklin is moving away from modelling US prototypes. Based on that I purchased a 26495 and a 26496 last year, which rounds out my US based trains. If they want to stop there it is OK with me I guess, because it will help me to save more money.
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midwestbls		#419 Posted : 10 May 2019 17:11:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 76		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I'm actually a little disappointed. No US-items at all. I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. Yeah - I thought that a 4014 was a no brainer - just don't apply the weathering and you are done! Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister The 39243 is a must have to me ... I love my 39241 and I am trying to tell myself that one is enough, but wow is that loco pretty in green. Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister My budget is quite limited this year so maybe it was good Märklin didn't chose any special models. Yeah - mine too. I was hoping and not hoping that there would be more this summer. The toy fair in Göppingen usually generates an exceptional fall surprise loco and I want enough budget left for that if it is a got to have item. Maybe I could be cured of this affliction, but I sure hope not. I'm mostly a late ERA III/early IV DB/SBB/BLS electric guy, but was VERY disappointed to have passed on the previous 241 #39241. So the 39243 is already on order! Even better as I'm bit of an Orient Express buff! Anyone have thoughts on the differences between the new blue OE coach sets and those offered a few years ago (42795)? - Bill
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Goofy		#420 Posted : 10 May 2019 17:24:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,273		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz I didn't say the price wasn't fair, I said it wasn't cheap. Yeah sure... If the prices was lower?
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Purellum		#421 Posted : 10 May 2019 18:44:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz but no we get a €4,500 French steam loco instead.... But she is a beauty for sure https://www.maerklin.de/...s/details/article/55082/ A bit above my yearly budget though...... Per.
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jerdenberg		#422 Posted : 10 May 2019 19:54:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,024 Location: Den Helder, Noord-Holland		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. Not sure I understand what you mean. With all the car sets that have been/are available since the first Big Boy [37990], a >100-car train can be made without using duplicate sets (counting only 2 cabooses: the one from 45652 as the MoW consist would be transported as a whole, and the train's caboose – however, almost any number of cabooses would be prototypical as the additional ones could be on a move; I've seen a string of 5 or 6 at the end of a train in 1950s footage). A fairly complete list (close couplers only): 29570: 3 cars [from the NYC starter set with NYC PA 4210] 29848: 7 cars [from the big starter set with BB 4015] 45580: 3 45642: 9 45645: 5 45646: 10 45647: 3 45648: 3 45649: 9 45650: 3 45651: 3 45652: 3 45653: 5 45654: 5 45655: 5 45657: 5 45658: 5 45659: 5 45660: 5 45661: 3 45662: 3 45664: 3 45680: 3 45690: 3 45800: 4 45801: 4 45702: UP Caboose 3771 [or 45709, UP Caboose 3856] That makes 116 cars if I counted correctly. In the years since I ordered my 37990, there have been multiple of the above that I could not afford at the time they appeared; on the other hand, I did manage, years ago, to get my hands on two 20-car Trix offerings, which can be used on my layout either as are (only need to have one car fitted with two different couplers to hook up a Trix block to a Märklin block). Jeroen
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midwestbls		#423 Posted : 10 May 2019 20:07:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 76		Originally Posted by: midwestbls Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I'm actually a little disappointed. No US-items at all. I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. Yeah - I thought that a 4014 was a no brainer - just don't apply the weathering and you are done! Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister The 39243 is a must have to me ... I love my 39241 and I am trying to tell myself that one is enough, but wow is that loco pretty in green. Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister My budget is quite limited this year so maybe it was good Märklin didn't chose any special models. Yeah - mine too. I was hoping and not hoping that there would be more this summer. The toy fair in Göppingen usually generates an exceptional fall surprise loco and I want enough budget left for that if it is a got to have item. Maybe I could be cured of this affliction, but I sure hope not. I'm mostly a late ERA III/early IV DB/SBB/BLS electric guy, but was VERY disappointed to have passed on the previous 241 #39241. So the 39243 is already on order! Even better as I'm bit of an Orient Express buff! Anyone have thoughts on the differences between the new blue OE coach sets and those offered a few years ago (42795)? - Bill Looks like the new 42790 OE car set is nearly identical to the previous set (42795), but the new one adds red tail lights on one baggage car plus a mfx decoder to control lights and a sound function in one of the baggage cars. Thanks, I'll keep my older set ... and upgrade the lok!!!
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franciscohg		#424 Posted : 10 May 2019 20:13:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia		Originally Posted by: midwestbls Originally Posted by: midwestbls Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister I'm actually a little disappointed. No US-items at all. I've dreamt of a train to suit my Big Boy 4014 as in the prototype. Yeah - I thought that a 4014 was a no brainer - just don't apply the weathering and you are done! Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister The 39243 is a must have to me ... I love my 39241 and I am trying to tell myself that one is enough, but wow is that loco pretty in green. Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister My budget is quite limited this year so maybe it was good Märklin didn't chose any special models. Yeah - mine too. I was hoping and not hoping that there would be more this summer. The toy fair in Göppingen usually generates an exceptional fall surprise loco and I want enough budget left for that if it is a got to have item. Maybe I could be cured of this affliction, but I sure hope not. I'm mostly a late ERA III/early IV DB/SBB/BLS electric guy, but was VERY disappointed to have passed on the previous 241 #39241. So the 39243 is already on order! Even better as I'm bit of an Orient Express buff! Anyone have thoughts on the differences between the new blue OE coach sets and those offered a few years ago (42795)? - Bill Looks like the new 42790 OE car set is nearly identical to the previous set (42795), but the new one adds red tail lights on one baggage car plus a mfx decoder to control lights and a sound function in one of the baggage cars. Thanks, I'll keep my older set ... and upgrade the lok!!! Hi, that is exactly what I'm doing
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steventrain		#425 Posted : 10 May 2019 20:33:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,685 Location: United Kingdom		Summer new items delivery planning dates (approx). 36209 2020 37068 Q4 39213 Q4 39243 Q3 39902 Q3 39940 Q3 42790 2020 42791 2020 45085 Q4 46165 Q3 46393 Q4 47101 Q2 48619 Q2 48519 Q3 55017/55057 Q4
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TEEWolf		#426 Posted : 10 May 2019 20:33:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/06/2016(UTC) Posts: 2,465		Originally Posted by: Dimi194 Haven't ordered any Marklin (or model railway stuff) this year due to time constraints meaning I've no space/time to set them up, but 37068 really got me interested... until I saw the $500AUD (ish) price tag!!!!! :S Indeed, really a very high price. I am also interested in this little BR 80, but need more time thinking about the price. For a longer time I am already looking for a BR 64 #39648 from Märklin. Märklin price was 330 €, the BR 80 #37068 price in the German catalogue is 300 € ( about $480 AUD). The 80 is smaller as the 64 - ok, both got mfx+ decoder on board, but the BR 80 is now equipped first time with the new slim Telex coupler. This - I think - makes the price acceptable to myself. But I miss the possibility for smoke in the chimney. Guess have to ask Märklin what happened to the smoke facility and if it can be retrofitted.
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Minok		#427 Posted : 10 May 2019 21:00:24(UTC) Retweet
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kiwiAlan		#428 Posted : 10 May 2019 23:15:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,455 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Minok FYI, the Schuco rail A922 Liebherr is Schuco 452646900. Ah, good, thanks. Lokshop show it at 35.99 Euro, so 4 euro discount (~10%) and delivery Q4.
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franciscohg		#429 Posted : 11 May 2019 00:02:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia		There are nice prices at lokshop, that made me order the 39243, plus the VAT exemption it came at a more reasonably price.
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ParisTsirchoglou		#430 Posted : 11 May 2019 01:12:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2015(UTC) Posts: 127 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece		Very excited with the 39243!!! Just ordered it at my local dealer. Having missed the 39241, I have been waiting for her release in "Green" for sometime. To be quite honest ... to my eyes ... Green color suits her quite well. Regards Paris
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dickinsonj		#431 Posted : 11 May 2019 01:42:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: ParisTsirchoglou To be quite honest ... to my eyes ... Green color suits her quite well. Regards Paris Indeed! I was convinced that my 39241 was the prettiest steamer ever, right up to when I saw the 39243. I have always had a soft spot for green locos and combined with that beautiful design and the high level of detail this one will be very special as well. I still should not buy one even though I am tempted. Whenever my 241-A 65 is running everyone is just drawn to it, like nothing else is there - it is that fine. I really should not buy one.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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shannon		#432 Posted : 11 May 2019 03:48:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 353 Location: Taipei,		Did anyone know whether 39243 is equipped with the running gear lights functions as 39241 ?
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dickinsonj		#433 Posted : 11 May 2019 04:11:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: shannon Did anyone know whether 39243 is equipped with the running gear lights functions as 39241 ? If the pictures posted on Märklin's website are correct, then no, they do not have them. That seems strange but perhaps it is correct to the prototype? It makes you wonder what other features might have quietly gone away. The fact that my 241 A 65 not only has running gear lights but that they look exactly like those on the prototype is one of my most favorite features.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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kimballthurlow		#434 Posted : 11 May 2019 04:15:34(UTC) Retweet
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kimballthurlow		#435 Posted : 11 May 2019 04:41:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,762 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Regarding the 47101 bogie Schiebeplanenwagen (sliding tarpaulin). Does anyone know what type of loading is used in these cars? regards Kimball
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river6109		#436 Posted : 11 May 2019 04:41:37(UTC) Retweet
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Alsterstreek		#437 Posted : 11 May 2019 08:02:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,834 Location: Hybrid Home		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Regarding the 47101 bogie Schiebeplanenwagen (sliding tarpaulin). Does anyone know what type of loading is used in these cars? Flat car "Rilnss": The wagon is designed for the transport of weather-sensitive goods. The tarpaulin cover protects the goods from rainwater and snow. Pallet goods, sheet rolls of different diameters in special saddle pallets, steel bars, steel sheets, wood blanks as well as other piece goods and semi-finished products can be transported on the wagon. Loading and unloading by crane with magnets or grabs. Source: http://tatravagonka.sk/wagons/rilnss/?lang=de
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danmarklinman		#438 Posted : 11 May 2019 09:39:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,404		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Regarding the 47101 bogie Schiebeplanenwagen (sliding tarpaulin). Does anyone know what type of loading is used in these cars? regards Kimball Hi, I think this CFL wagon is used for finished steel products which are weather sensitive. Marklin did a set of 3 CFL flat cars loaded with steel girders, 47050. It’s a nicely weathered. There are also shorter covered tarp wagons for coiled steel. I’ve seen the SNCF version of this wagon, in a siding along side Vannes station in Brittany France, being unloaded with pallets of produce straight into a truck! The scene looked straight out of a train set😁👍 it was a single wagon. There were also 2 SBB slide wall wagons. Which I really didn’t expect to see in a medium French town. Dan
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kimballthurlow		#439 Posted : 11 May 2019 11:07:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,762 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hi Thanks Ak and Dan, Thanks for the description, it all makes sense. So we could say freight in general - the tarpaulin sides are very common on road trucks in Australia. They call them curtain walls. But I don't think I have seen them on railways. Kimball
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kimballthurlow		#440 Posted : 11 May 2019 11:17:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,762 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Regarding the 47101 bogie Schiebeplanenwagen (sliding tarpaulin). Does anyone know what type of loading is used in these cars? regards Kimball Hi, I think this CFL wagon is used for finished steel products which are weather sensitive. Marklin did a set of 3 CFL flat cars loaded with steel girders, 47050. It’s a nicely weathered. There are also shorter covered tarp wagons for coiled steel. I’ve seen the SNCF version of this wagon, in a siding along side Vannes station in Brittany France, being unloaded with pallets of produce straight into a truck! The scene looked straight out of a train set😁👍 it was a single wagon. There were also 2 SBB slide wall wagons. Which I really didn’t expect to see in a medium French town. Dan Yes Dan understand. Maerklin actually announced an Ermewa (France) set 47102 for 2019 and there are other sets of the SNCF shorties 47209 and 47211. See also the CFL set 47207. Kimball
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danmarklinman		#441 Posted : 11 May 2019 13:42:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,404		47102 is on my ever growing list😁
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dickinsonj		#442 Posted : 11 May 2019 14:55:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: danmarklinman 47102 is on my ever growing list😁 Yeah - I need that one too.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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Dimi194		#443 Posted : 12 May 2019 00:56:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 383		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: dickinsonj .....no prices yet at any of my normal dealers...... Marklin RRP prices are listed in the German version of the catalog. Nothing much of interest for me, I was hoping (for the 2nd time!) there would be 1 Gauge TEE coaches to go with the BR103 locos Marklin released last year, but no we get a €4,500 French steam loco instead.... The H0 BR290 looks nice but €360 isn't cheap, so will probably pass on that. My AU dealer said by the time it got to AU it'd be $610 AUD.... I'm out
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dickinsonj		#444 Posted : 12 May 2019 01:51:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,796 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: Dimi194 My AU dealer said by the time it got to AU it'd be $610 AUD.... I'm out I believe that Märklin's target market for its top locos has shifted , from MRR hobbyist to collectors. That market cares less about price and more about detail and exclusivity, so prices rise but so does quality, at least in my recent experience. We kind of asked for this with our wishlists of a perfect Märklin and we forgot to consider the cost. I am now buying fewer things and spending about the same amount of money, which is nice actually. Their product quality has been quite good in the last two years, at least it has been for my new items and I am quite pleased, if a little alarmed at the price trends. There is new pricing coming from Märklin soon and I am wondering how much things will change then. But oh well, in for a penny in for a pound at this point it is for me, no matter what. It looks like an interesting ride at the very least and I have added some amazing new trains to my layout over the last two to three years.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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TEEWolf		#445 Posted : 12 May 2019 05:04:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/06/2016(UTC) Posts: 2,465		Originally Posted by: RayF I'm seriously thinking about the Br290. I don't have many locos in Era V red. The Transwaggon set is nice to go with it too. The Br213 and it's set is nice too, and a little bit cheaper. I'm also thinking of getting the three wagons from Denmark, Sweden and Luxembourg. Can't get enough "foreign" wagons... e.g. Lokshop has the new items on its website already with 10% discount. https://shop.lokshop.de/index.php?cPath=2878
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rmsailor		#446 Posted : 12 May 2019 10:23:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 570 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi Thanks Ak and Dan, Thanks for the description, it all makes sense. So we could say freight in general - the tarpaulin sides are very common on road trucks in Australia. They call them curtain walls. But I don't think I have seen them on railways. Kimball I think that curtain wall vans on railways are regarded as potentially hazerdous with the possibility of them coming loose in the slipstream as trains pass. Hence a preferance for sliding wall vans. However Electrotren model vans with curtain walls so presumabely acceptable in Spain. Bob M.
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kimballthurlow		#447 Posted : 12 May 2019 10:41:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,762 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: dickinsonj .....no prices yet at any of my normal dealers...... Marklin RRP prices are listed in the German version of the catalog. .... The H0 BR290 looks nice but €360 isn't cheap, so will probably pass on that. Hi David, I have been waiting for an era VI BR290 shunter, but era V will do. So 39902 will be beautifully weathered which is how you see them in real life. And the telex dynamic coupler is a must for easy shunt operation. This feature of dynamic driver is a great innovation and talking point, but you would have to be 300mm or less from the model to notice it. Maybe that suits a smallish layout. So it is not a feature I particularly want to pay for. UNLESS Maerklin provided 3 different drivers you could swap around - blue shirt, red shirt and black shirt - with or without cap...... At around $550 to $610 in Australia it is still tempting. Kimball
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xxup		#448 Posted : 12 May 2019 12:34:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,578 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow .... UNLESS Maerklin provided 3 different drivers you could swap around - blue shirt, red shirt and black shirt - with or without cap...... You could always paint the shirts.. I don't know about the cap - would an engine driver not wear a cap?
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kiwiAlan		#449 Posted : 12 May 2019 13:51:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,455 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: rmsailor Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Hi Thanks Ak and Dan, Thanks for the description, it all makes sense. So we could say freight in general - the tarpaulin sides are very common on road trucks in Australia. They call them curtain walls. But I don't think I have seen them on railways. Kimball I think that curtain wall vans on railways are regarded as potentially hazerdous with the possibility of them coming loose in the slipstream as trains pass. Hence a preferance for sliding wall vans. However Electrotren model vans with curtain walls so presumabely acceptable in Spain. Bob M. There seems to be some concern that it was a problem with a curtainside wagon that caused a significant train crash on a bridge in Denmark recently. [edit] Whoops, reading more carefully it wasn't actually curtain wall wagons involved, but articulated trailers on wagons. [/edit]
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5HorizonsRR		#450 Posted : 12 May 2019 18:47:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,973 Location: CA, USA		Picking up on the pricing commentary, I have to say I've noticed a "smarter" Marklin on the other end of the fence the past few years: more tangible themes, product we cannot shoot holes in for a lack of features/detail, better marketability in terms of functions and things like orient express. This sort of thing is Marketing 101, and has enabled them to charge (and get) these full-on price tags. Exclusivity I don't think is the angle, but rather not oversupplying the market and therefore depressing market pricing. Using the 241 as an example, everyone seems to have loved it. Despite the very high price tag (I had to pass myself for that reason) it was a "you get what you pay for" moment. I'd love to see the marklin balance sheets and learn this, but I bet that first run paid for the tooling and this second orient express run will put the model in the black- all while packed in an exclusive theme which will move a few passenger car sets in the process. When the third variant comes I bet it is all cash cow I guess where I'm going with this is, despite a lot of us being priced out by these new models, I think it actually is good for the company. I"m in no rush, I'll pick up a used one some day. For now I need the money to build out the basement/train room!
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