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river6109		#1 Posted : 02 October 2018 05:56:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Hi, received my Piko loco today and so far the packaging is concerned its ok, there is a small envelope where all the instructions etc. stored in the envelope tucks into the bottom of the carton. to open the loco, there are 4 screws 2 on each end just beside the bogies, the problem is 2 of the holes are so close to the bogie you only can unscrew the screws with a long small head phillips screwdriver. the 4 pantographs are again flimsy and there is no power contact (which seems to be the norm lately with other manufacturers as well. the loco has 4 driven axles with 2 rubber tyres which I will change to 4 again the high beam led hasn't been fitted so tgis is another job I have to do. one would think with an expert model these functions or light fittings would be standard. the loco has a small digital decoder which has 2 Aux functions. I'm sure I've ordered a DC model but received an AC model. underneath the loco's bogies the cogwheels are exposed and I will cover them up so no dirt can enter a nice addition is underneath the loco as well the box in the middle is plastic but when unscrewing this part its filled with a metal block to add more weight to the loco, most the time this spot is just covered with a plastic box. it has 2 large flywheels which should add to the running characteristics. over all a nice model and the lettering is perfect. the headlights and marker lights are strong enough to be noticed in daylight. it does take a Plus 16 or Plus 22 decoder, there is provision for a speaker and I think a power interruption supply you don't have to mount any parts onto the loco, e.g. handrails or window wipers there doesn't seem to be an exchange cowcatcher when using it without a coupling (?) will inquire. no instructions how to take the bogies outer assembly off Edited by user 02 December 2018 15:08:10(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
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river6109		#2 Posted : 02 October 2018 15:21:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		worked on the small light circuit board for t6 hours and I still can't get the high beam going,, if I put 12 Volt straight onto the led it works, I than used the multi meter to see which contact is which, found it and than connected a resistor to one of the contacts but the moment I do this the led is not working, the polarity is right, so another frustrating afternoon. received spare parts for my BlS Vectron (Roco) = light reflectors for the interior lights and fixed them and they work fine. so everything works with the Roco loco, high beam, interior lights, marker lights and headlights. John
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river6109		#3 Posted : 03 October 2018 14:39:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Hi, finally got the high beam going, traced the contacts on the small circuit board, yesterday I had it totally wrong connected + the polarity., it has got a basic decoder in the loco so know I have to order a Plus22 sound decoder. the Roco BLS Vectron works fine with its sound, interior lights, hoigh beam and marker lights. the pantographs ain't to bad and I've got 4 rubber tyres on 2 axles. I will reconsider whether or not I'll buy any more Piko locos, changing to many things for my liking, haven't had an answer from Piko yet how to undo the bogies plastic outerframe, I hope I don't have to take the whole loco apart to get to the bogie and than take the bogie apart to get to the wheels. John
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river6109		#4 Posted : 12 October 2018 10:05:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Hi, I just had an email from Piko, to change a rubber tyre you have to take the whole loco apart to get to the the bogie, which I think is ridiculous, Roco or Märklin you just undue a couple of screws or take the bottom plate off. John
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H0		#5 Posted : 12 October 2018 12:07:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,443 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: river6109 Roco or Märklin you just undue a couple of screws or take the bottom plate off. Did you ever replace traction tyres on a Märklin TRAXX loco? You have to take the truckframe off. Take care when doing this, otherwise the bogie will fall out of place, the plastic toothpick falls out of place too. When putting the wheelset back in place you have to take care of the wheel sliders left and right. I cannot see that Piko is more complicated than Märklin ...
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river6109		#6 Posted : 13 October 2018 05:57:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: river6109 Roco or Märklin you just undue a couple of screws or take the bottom plate off. Did you ever replace traction tyres on a Märklin TRAXX loco? You have to take the truckframe off. Take care when doing this, otherwise the bogie will fall out of place, the plastic toothpick falls out of place too. When putting the wheelset back in place you have to take care of the wheel sliders left and right. I cannot see that Piko is more complicated than Märklin ... Tom you've got a point there, I have exchanged the wheels on Traxx locos (extremely expensive Euro 30.00 for 1 axle with 1 Rubber tyre) taken the bogie frame off is not always easy and yes the wheel contacts have to be taken care of to but you don't have to unsolder the circuit board, you don't have to remove the whole bogie to get to the wheels. I think less parts you have to remove less chance you've got to damage anything. John
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river6109		#7 Posted : 27 October 2018 17:16:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Hi, another small achievement, I was able to connect 21 container cars (mainly Mehano) with an improved weight (added a metal plate) to make sure the cars aren't falling over. the Piko ÖBB Rh 1092 "Vectron had no trouble hauling the long container train although I've made some improvement to the loco: added 2 rubber tyres, a new pantograph and a stronger coupling spring. I was surprised by getting through the S-curve on the incline and also the loco didn't seem to struggle. I'm quite happy with the Piko loco although I've already broken 2 steps on the side of the loco so I have to superglue them back on again., had a few incidents with the pantograph but this was sorted out as well, until I get a Plus 22 sound decoder and program the current decoder to a slower starting speed, accidents with the pantograph shouldn't happen again. here is a short video of the container train I also have to remind myself to run the trains slower.
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mmervine		#8 Posted : 27 October 2018 18:02:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,893 Location: Keene, NH		John-nice video...thanks for posting!
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river6109		#9 Posted : 27 October 2018 21:31:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: mmervine John-nice video...thanks for posting! Thanks, having long trains isn't an easy job to put together especially at the S-curve and its an incline as well, I had cars uncoupling, derailing and eventually after I've changed some of the coupling the problem was solved. had 1 car derailing at the end of the train so I put it further to the front = problem solved. John
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river6109		#10 Posted : 02 December 2018 03:14:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Hi, the loco has now an ESU sound decoder and I've added led's to be able to activate the high beam. thinking of adding cab lights as well down the track, also a Roco model of the same model is on order. John
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