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Offline TEEWolf  
#1 Posted : 23 September 2018 22:00:26(UTC)
TEEWolf


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Hello everybody,

for all, who have not yet seen this topic at Märklin's website:

https://www.maerklin.de/de/lp/2018/jvl/

and the hunting people Smile

http://www.lok-jaeger.de/

https://de-de.facebook.c...JaegerDerVersunkenenLok/

https://www.eisenbahn-ku...d-aus-dem-rhein-geborgen

just for information. This loco is sunken brand new during a storm into the Rhine. Now after 165 years it shall be recovered next Month, October 2018.

There Märklin is involved in the recovery of this before 165 years sunken loco, it may be possible this steamer loco may occur as a new Märklin model in the near future.

Regards

TEEWolf


P.S.: Description from the German television

https://programm.ard.de/.../?sendung=28113602712198

Railway romance extra hunter of the sunken locomotive (Part 1) - When "The Rhine" fell into the Rhine | SWR television BW


106 years ago the Titanic crashed and sank in the Atlantic Ocean. Exactly 60 years and two months earlier, on 14 February 1852, a brand-new locomotive from the Keßler engineering works in Karlsruhe fell from the ship when it was delivered and sank in the Rhine near Germersheim. To this day, no one has seen her.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

The first part of the altogether four-part "extra series" of the railway romanticism for the treasure hunt for this oldest still existing German steam locomotive tells the story of this legendary locomotive with the fateful name "The Rhine". From the construction in Karlsruhe to the loading, the transport and the accident up to the attempts to pull the 20 tons heavy locomotive out of the water again. Despite the efforts of 400 strong men and the first divers, who had to travel from England, all efforts to rescue them from the floods of the Rhine were in vain. Even today, 166 years later, the technical masterpiece from the early years of railway history lies in its cold, wet grave.

In the following three parts the long treasure hunt for the lost locomotive is described, the history of the traditional locomotive construction in the southwest is told and in the fourth part we accompany the preparations for a possible recovery of the oldest still existing German locomotive.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator
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Offline Jabez  
#2 Posted : 23 September 2018 22:08:16(UTC)
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It was the Lorelei or one of her sisters what done itBigGrin
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Offline TEEWolf  
#3 Posted : 23 September 2018 22:13:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
It was the Lorelei or one of her sisters what done itBigGrin


As far as I understand the articles and looking at the pictures, its name was "Der Rhein" (also: "The Rhine").
Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 24 September 2018 13:09:22(UTC)
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Looks to me like a suitable candidate for the 'Surprise loco' ... BigGrin
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Offline Webmaster  
#5 Posted : 24 September 2018 19:18:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
It was the Lorelei or one of her sisters what done itBigGrin


As far as I understand the articles and looking at the pictures, its name was "Der Rhein" (also: "The Rhine").


Still must be Lorelei that caused the "Rhein" accident...
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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Offline TEEWolf  
#6 Posted : 25 September 2018 01:19:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
It was the Lorelei or one of her sisters what done itBigGrin


As far as I understand the articles and looking at the pictures, its name was "Der Rhein" (also: "The Rhine").


Still must be Lorelei that caused the "Rhein" accident...


AAAAhhh sorry I did not understand @Jabez remark first. RollEyes

Haha, it was not the Blondie from the Lorely. It shall have been a storm bringing the sailing vessel down into the Rhine at Germersheim (near Speyer). Germersheim has the river kilometre 384 and the Lorely has river kilometre 554 of the Rhine. So there are about 100 miles difference between both places. Cool

But yes, I love Blondes to - but the real Blondes, not a lager beer (in German "ein Blondes") Smile. You should know, minimum we got two different Blondes in Germany.LOL
Offline PJMärklin  
#7 Posted : 25 September 2018 06:38:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jabez Go to Quoted Post
It was the Lorelei or one of her sisters what done itBigGrin


As far as I understand the articles and looking at the pictures, its name was "Der Rhein" (also: "The Rhine").


Still must be Lorelei that caused the "Rhein" accident...



Maybe... but she has let us slip past twice without accident !BigGrin


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Regards,

PJ
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Offline TEEWolf  
#8 Posted : 25 September 2018 18:15:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Go to Quoted Post

Maybe... but she has let us slip past twice without accident !BigGrin


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Regards,

PJ


Hello PJ

Lucky man - hopefully you had a good "Blondes" on board, to wash down all your concerns and an excellent view up the mountain to the mermaid.Love (she is not the flag or windsock seen in the pictureBigGrin)

On the trains (on both routes - at the left and right side of the Rhine) sometimes it is not so easy to get a good bottle of beer and the trains are pretty fast. Be on a train on the right Rhine side you cross the mountain undernaeth through a tunnel. The views by train are limited.

And in my car? I always had only water Drool - but you know: don't drink and drive. But also no view to the mermaid possible, you have to watch the traffic. Laugh

And seriously:
you are totally right, the Lorely is much more prettier than the Rhine at Germersheim. Actually the Rhine there is boaring. A plant from Daimler for trucks has been there. Nowadays it is their worldwide main logistic centre, plenty of military service is there and even a nuclear power plant is nearby. Well, I drunk my "Blondes" inside the ship at the bar.RollEyes Cool

Regrds,

TEEWolf
Offline PJMärklin  
#9 Posted : 26 September 2018 12:39:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Hello PJ Lucky man - hopefully you had a good "Blondes" on board, to wash down all your concerns and an excellent view up the mountain to the mermaid.Love (she is not the flag or windsock seen in the pictureBigGrin)

On the trains (on both routes - at the left and right side of the Rhine) sometimes it is not so easy to get a good bottle of beer and the trains are pretty fast. Be on a train on the right Rhine side you cross the mountain undernaeth through a tunnel. The views by train are limited.

And in my car? I always had only water Drool - but you know: don't drink and drive. But also no view to the mermaid possible, you have to watch the traffic. Laugh

And seriously:
you are totally right, the Lorely is much more prettier than the Rhine at Germersheim. Actually the Rhine there is boaring. A plant from Daimler for trucks has been there. Nowadays it is their worldwide main logistic centre, plenty of military service is there and even a nuclear power plant is nearby. Well, I drunk my "Blondes" inside the ship at the bar.RollEyes Cool

Regrds,

TEEWolf


Hello Wolfgang,

Yes I had a good Blonde on board, my wonderful wife !! ThumpUp :


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As you say, view from train in tunnel is limited, as you can see, they cannot see us now :Wink


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We have traveled by train along the Rhein a few times though and it is very picturesque, but I do find images taken through the window of a moving train quite unsatisfactory.


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Regards,

PJ BigGrin
Offline steventrain  
#10 Posted : 02 October 2018 23:16:09(UTC)
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Offline river6109  
#11 Posted : 03 October 2018 02:51:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post


this must be a huge blow, what they are trying to do now is to find out what the magnetic sensory abnormality was, to start searching in that spot and being sure they've found the loco, the work they undertook has taken them 9 meters down and an area of 450m² and found nothing.

John
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#12 Posted : 03 October 2018 02:59:55(UTC)
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That is a real shame -
I was looking forward to this result so much.

Kimball
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